I meant that I dont know enough history about each politicians views and what not to debate say a person that has been watching news forever. But since i did start watching political tv and listen political radio I have gotten an idea. I am not hard headed, I have looked into the videos of 9/11 cover ups and all that and I did believe it at one point when i just began to watch political media. and then I watched Hannity and Colmes and a guy used that video for his argument and Sean Hannity or someone knocked it right out showing proof that his statistics and information were completely off. And then i said to myself wow some of these people really try to brain wash young Americans like myself that dont know any better and thats how they get their way becuase they "educate" people that dont know the other side or angle to the story. Your saying theirs propaganda to hide Bush's stuff but there is much more Propaganda to hate Bush and that is a fact. Many of the Bush haters are young Americans that dont know the other side....and i always compare the Vietnam war and the people fighting against it to our society now that wants to get out of Iraq. It was basically the same situation and in the end we lost the war becuase we backed out....NOW I never thought we should have been there, but once were there we cant back out...and we should have stayed to win the war. Since we got out, the Anti-war movement finally got their way and we lost the war with many Vietnam vets being horribly treated coming back home. It's history Akamu and thats what i see in this growing movement of anti-war Americans, Vietnam part 2. So I'm not hard headed or brain washed by Bush's cover ups that you claim me to be...i see history repeating itself in a negative way. Now Bush has been horrible financially and I hope our next president will improve that. Wether Bush did go into the war for Oil or not isnt the issue anymore its about winning this war and getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan without looking defeated to other countries. If we get out of Iraq and Afghanistan in a defeated fashion, then terrorist leaders will use that as Propaganda against us it has happened before. And every person that has died in Iraq and Afghanistan will have absolutely no purpose. Maybe Bush did go in there for Oil and it would be a horrible decision, but now he is trying to help them in their goverment which is a positive so if we can do that, than not all of this war was a waste of our tax dollars. What people arent seeing is that it doesnt matter wether Bush screwed up or not because it's too late....you cant back out of it now we have been there too long. if we leave it will be more catastrophic than anything else. Iraq and Afghanistan will be worse than before we got there you and i know that will happen. Also their allies will form against us and a hate for America will grow far worse than it ever was and confidence for them to win will be bigger than ever becuase their propaganda would be "after all the people we lost we still defeated the Americans" this will happen if we backed out. And this is the ultimate reason why I am against getting out of the Mid East right now becuase history will repeat itself and be even worse.