Mardy Collins is a bigger Charlie Ward? Charlie Ward actually made jump shots and free throws. Collins never does that.
Plus, Mardy Collins is really a shooting guard. He only plays point guard, because he has no offense.
Marty Collins under Dantoni
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Plus, Mardy Collins is really a shooting guard. He only plays point guard, because he has no offense.
Recall, Charlie Ward did not get any playingtime untill his 4th season with the Knicks. When Mark Jackson and Strictland was off the team. also his Jumpshot came in his later years.
What I also recall about Charlie Ward is every offseason he was a Knick the Knick Fans and media wanted Ward traded.
Do you think Dantoni can help Collins, like Frazier said he could?
Portega, I dont know you like that, and you did nothing to respond to the main topic. So take your hater-club and spell check to the next man.
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GetRealistic
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The countdown to another rediculous post from Kiya is 15 minutes.
SPOILER ALERT:
The post will have much bolding and mentioning of players. Ex. The 6'8 Tazman Balkman
D'Antoni and Walsh are not doing there job by dramatically overhauling this team. The entire league would love to get the bum players we have
A sentence like this. If we have stayed the course with the teamwork displayed by our amazing summer league roster of Collins, Nichols, Morris, and Balkman we would be competing for a title. If you saw Morris play last year you would have noticed his ability to rebound and be a defensive presence.
A mention of D. Nichols
Kiya is a joke and makes me think posters like NYKnicks125 are intelligent.
P.S. Charlie Ward wasn't on the Knicks team with Rod Strickland and Marc Jackson.
SPOILER ALERT:
The post will have much bolding and mentioning of players. Ex. The 6'8 Tazman Balkman
D'Antoni and Walsh are not doing there job by dramatically overhauling this team. The entire league would love to get the bum players we have
A sentence like this. If we have stayed the course with the teamwork displayed by our amazing summer league roster of Collins, Nichols, Morris, and Balkman we would be competing for a title. If you saw Morris play last year you would have noticed his ability to rebound and be a defensive presence.
A mention of D. Nichols
Kiya is a joke and makes me think posters like NYKnicks125 are intelligent.
P.S. Charlie Ward wasn't on the Knicks team with Rod Strickland and Marc Jackson.
Money G, that I will agree too.
When the Newspapers wrote that Charlie Ward pushed coach Chaney to start Frank Williams over him and the Knicks won 3 straight games by blow-outs with Frank starting that indicated the team chemistry at defense.
What was the Knick defensive coach name again? T.........
One day I may apologize for being so arrogant in this forum.... but today is not the day.
If celebrity coach Dantoni and PG-Duhorn can polish up Marty Collins B-Ball game then and only then will I give them the "Props" they deserve.
It is not everyday that you hear Walt Frazier consistently talk about a NBA Guard that he would like to help polish up their performance.
We are talking about coach Holzman star guard Frazier that co-existed well with Monroe, Bibby, and Dick Barnette in the backcourt.
Marv Albert & Mark Jackson also said a few good things about Marty Collins raw performance.
This is the only Forum where members consider Marty Collins as a D.League player. When alot of NBA analyst believe Collins need a coaches confidence in him to step his level up to become a defensive combo-guard in the NBA.
i think it was tom timbeo... the guy coaching boston's defense. i do see similarities in marty and frank. frank work on his 3pt shoot and and thats what made him so good. i was happy when the marbury trade happen. but i though that frank would have served us bettter in the long haul.
portega1968
El Cacique
It's funny how people recur to cliches like "Hater" when their arguments lack substance.
Kiya... in my answer it is implicit that I dont think Mardy Collins is going anywhere dude and that I don't agree with your conclusions.
And if that isn't enough for you to realize I've addressed the topic, well allow me to be more explicit... your analyses that Mardy (not Marty) will flourish under D'Antoni licks my huevos homey and can only be borne out of a brain hooked on rat poison.
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D is an incredible coach, heres a question, how MUCH will he improve everyone by?
alot to guys with a good work ethic like David Lee, Wilson Chandler, Nate. Also guys that we know will definetly fit in the 7 second offense style. I mean guys that have a history of taking quick shots, like Crawford.
Mike D will definetly improve: Q Rich(not young), Nate, David Lee, Wilson Chandler, hopefully Zach, and I think Curry will improve somewhat on offense. I think he will get the ball more down low and score more than we saw last year. Crawford will because of the way he just plays offense in general, he will love this style.
Originally Posted by jpz17
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D is an incredible coach, heres a question, how MUCH will he improve everyone by?
If coach Dantoni can get this Knick Team to perform at a quicker pace to have an uptempo 7 second offensive style players like Nate, Duhorn, Collins, Chandler, Gallo, Lee, and a under weight Curry (255 lb) would thrive in such a system.
I dont see inconsistent players like Crawford & Q.Richardson poor-passing ability thriving in this system game after game especially if they are the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd options on offense, both have very poor decision making and their court-awareness for teammates is very questionable.
Dantoni had problems with Marbury running an uptempo style in phoenix, and the last 5 years Marbury showed no indication of being an uptempo PG in his halfcourt offense.
If the Knicks still have Zach Randolph on the team this season there will be no uptempo transition while Zach is on the court. Zach have problems finishing on a fastbreak, and Alley-oop is a foreign word to Zach talent.
Next on the Knicks roster is Jerome James, Malik Rose, Jefferies, Ewing Jr., and Roberson with latter 2 being raw players but better in an uptempo system than the 3 veterans.
You call it...
Toons
is the Bo$$
kyiah, cut the crap ok....u have neer seen them play, so stop saying how they WILL play....stop bolding mardy collins, he is cow shit, he sucks, point blank. He had an entire season to step up, and failed miserably. How can u call crawford and q inconsistant, but yet u support collins, nichols, morris? can a moderator ban this guy from sayin demetrius nichols name PLEASE! he is gone....he has been gone....and he still isnt ready for the nba. Crawford in better than nichols....we dont need a broke crawford on the knicks. U give larry brown props, an u have seen what he has done with the knicks, and hasnt coached a game in charlotte....but yet, u discredit an accomplished coach who is recognized and coveted by the majority of players in the nba. ya posts are losing credit every time u post....i dont even bother to read them anymore
Tunes or Toons. I thought you knew a little something about B-Ball but I guess I was wrong.
I mention all those young players names because they could have got us a 23 or a 33 win season too.
I thought you would be the one to catch on.
Every other Knick Forum caught on quick except the Lame members in this forum who want to promote and glorify all of the bum players that Isiah traded for and signed with the MLE.
2008 = 23 wins
2007 = 33 wins
2006 = 23 wins
2005 = 33 wins
Nate, Collins, Nichols, Ariza, Balkman, Lee, Frye, Morris, and Butler could've gave the Knicks the same win seasons.
And what makes it real bad is "That's what your mouth say!" you will never bet a penny out of your pocket on the Knicks to win with Bums like Crawford, Q,Rich, Marbury, Zach, Jefferies, and Curry, under coach Dantoni and Walsh.
You guys dont even have a clue what Kiya means...
portega1968
El Cacique
Well, let's see.... We sure know it doesn't mean "expert on the Knicks". It probably means Marty Collins' love child.
Just to stay on topic, MarDy Collins will not be a Knick by the end of this season, ok?
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