How about Curry? That guy should be a top 5 center the way hes built. He should be dominating. Poor conditioning and lack of heart prevents him from being what he should be.
You're contradicting yourself.
If Marbury has already PROVEN himself, then he doesn't need to prove himself as badly as do losers like Randolph, Crawford, Curry etc. Crawford has never seen the playoffs. Curry and Crawford never had all star proven success like Marbury.
You're totally unaware right now.
MSG this was a bad post....Isiah wasn't 100% of the problem...yea he brought the guys that couldn't gel together. And yes almost all of them are over priced..... But he also got Wilson Chandler, David Lee and got Nate Robinson. Marbury BLACK MAILING Thomas was what made our chemistry take a landslide down. You knew as soon as that was posted in the news papers, that the season was going to be a rocky one.
Isiah was most of the problem....but Marbury did his part in adding the icing on the horrible cake that Isiah created. Don't tell me Marbury didnt cause chemistry issues. Your a fool if your to believe that Marbury was an angel through this past couple years.
Thats really ORIGINAL...I wonder what article you got that from.
Marbury has done numerous of good things off the court, more good than bad, so you're really making any points here.
Shut the f*ck up...Marbury is a grown ass man.
The beef with Isiah is one of the greatest things ever done in the last 4 years in the Isiah era.
Marbury rebeled and we got a positive result.
a new coach.
a new president
a new direction
a new hope
If Marbury would of stayed bitch and not make any noise like punk ass Jamal, we would still have Isiah and a backcourt of Crawford and Eric Gordon to chuck us back into the lottery every year.
Marbury did the RIGHT thing in rebeling, Isiah was a cancer and Marbury fought the cancer for the sake of NYC and Knicks basketball.
Marbury has PRIDE in NYC and the Knicks...don't be fooled.
You have nothing to present here. Marbury is proven.
Just admit it was really an ignorant ass statement.
you think we got a new coach, president, direction and hope because Marbury rebelled?????? WE WERE HORRIBLE ON THE COURT AND OFF THE COURT FOR YEARS. Marbury is known as a player who creates problems. Just like TO from Dallas Cowboys...they are great and have great talent, but they cause chemistry problems, its the way they are. Marbury has had problems with other coaches than Isiah.
We have a new president, coach, direction, and hope.... because of Isiah and how much of, yes a laughing stock, this team was becoming.
Point is that Marbury made things worse by black mailing a coach and refusing to play while being the star player. No argument Metro, it was immature and put a dark cloud over this team the rest of the season. Then he didn't want to play which caused more drama.
Metro, Marbury has proven to show great talent and win games single handedly at times. But the past couple years he has been one of the key reasons why we have had chemistry issues. Isiah, selfish players that are overpriced... and Marbury with his feud, and overall immaturity caused this team to win only 23 games.
I am sure Marbury has done good things off the court. But the shyt he pulled last year was one of the most embarssing things a player can do to his team. Doesn't matter how bad a team is...the one guy that always gets publicity shouldnt put a negative spotlight by causing drama all year long. He was the face of the Knicks...the star player...and he caused a feud that made things go six feet under.
Isiah started everything and Marbury made things worse when Isiah was here. Now that Isiah is gone I hope that Marbury can grow up a little bit and I think he will.
I am for Marbury. But he was part of the problem while Isiah was here. FACT
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When D'antoni wins 45 games with essentially the same team this year, everyone will say Isaiah is a bad coach. Zeke put avery good Pacers team together, but could not coach them to their full potential. Next coach did, because he can actually coach.
The same will hold true here this year when the Knicks actually play like they should with the talent on the team.
Marbury has helped the situation, but I believe he takes way too much blame for the lack of success of the team.
Zeke can scout talent, can't coach, or pick a good coach. So to me he is 95% the issue of why the team was bad.
Marbury's rebellion started the flame that lead to Isiah's end. Before that, Isiah was being rewarded for failure.
Marbury isn't really known for that. Marbury is more known for his 20 and 8, starbury shoeline, charity, witty and FUNNY comments in interviews(have a sense of humor you stiff mamaguebo)
Marbury is nothing like TO...TO is a drama queen, when Marbury is used as a scapegoat. You really need to narrow down **** and stop being so simple with sports.
You wouldn't blackmail Isiah? What class of homosexual are you? Marbury did the right thing and made things better(we were losing before, you act as if we had chemistry in the first place). How is chemistry Marbury's fault when Isiah had a new player getting major minutes every 2-3 months? You build chemistry with task cohesion and on the COURT.
You could have guys on a team who hate each other and can't get a lot, but as long as the performance is efficient and the team wins, that hate will be irrelevant. Its proven by a lot of research in sports pyschology, so unlike you I actually have my resources and study this stuff, where as you talk out of your ass.
Q-Rich, Miles, Odom and those fools with cool...as well with Crawford/Curry. Does it lead to good preformance on the court? Actually good social cohesion doesn't lead to success on the court. When you begin to lose, that social bond begins to break down. When you begin to win, the hate isn't really a factor.
So its really annoying when you simpletons come out of no where with this team chemistry in the locker...you guys really kno nothing about sports and building a team. Stop jocking the words of ESPN dudes.
The most ignorant quote in Knicksonline history:
"Marbury caused this team to win only 23 games."
smh @ these kids still believing everything the new york post says. They write that **** because they know idiots like you will believe everything they read.
As metro already pointed out, marbury was made the scapegoat. You didnt see anything bad about crawford in the papers, when he played no defense and was far from efficient. Why is that? Because isiah gave him the big minutes so he can score his 20 points, and 5 assists. Some people are ignorant and fail to factor in shot attempts, and theres others who will just look at stats and ignore the lack of defense in crawfords game. Hes a terrible defender and theres no way around that. Just like the way you have become a terrible poster, and theres also no way around that. When you start analyzing more, and developing your own opinions i will respect you more.
lol @ paul gettin ethered by me and metro
You come at either one of us and your guaranteed a loss
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I'll explain on the stuff i bolded that stood out when I read this...
Marbury started a flame that made our season come crashing down Metro. For a guy who "studies" sports who should know that off the court childish behavior can put a negative spotlight on a team mentally. If you believe that didn't happen with the Knicks last year, then your just a fool.
Marbury was a scapegoat just like every star player on every team in sports Metro, stop using excuses for his actions. He started problems and added problems like the black mailing incident, and not wanting to play and staying home instead of being with his team when they needed him.
"You wouldn't black mail Isiah?" NO I WOULDNT.....because i have a brain and know that if i did such a drastic thing that it would make our team look like a laughing stock and embarrassment to the NBA, which the Knicks were last year.
And that last quote....stop taking things out of context, this shows your immaturity and utter stupidity to try and win this arguement. Keep trying.