New York Knicks vs Toronto Raptors
Tonight @ 7:00pm ET
Welcome to the official MSG33 pregame show. Im your host the Gold Mac 10 and Ill be doing Knicks game threads through out the year. Its a brand new season after the knicks look to put last year.....actually, the last 4 or 5 years behind them. Isiah Thomas is no longer the head man in charge. Donnie Walsh is now the gm, and the new coach of the Knicks is Mike D'antoni. Mike won 50 or more games 4 years straight with the Phoenix Suns. But now he no longer has Amare Stoudamire and Steve Nash on his team.
All reports from the media indicate that Mike D'antoni and the knicks are confident about this season. Mike has spoken about how the talent on this roster has impressed him, specifically Nate Robinson and Jared Jeffries. Not so sure what impressive about Jeffries, but we cant forget about Danilo Gallinari, one of the newest and most notable offseason acquisitions. Also referred to as the Big ****, Gallinari is known for having a good basketball iq, alot of heart, being able to drive the ball, shoot well, pass, and leadership. I believe he is playing tonight, but i do not know as a fact. Either way, I look forward to watching the Big **** grow and develop as a player.
2008-09 New York Knicks
#34 Eddy Curry
#13 Jerome James
#20 Jared Jeffries
#42 David Lee
#50 Zach Randolph
#31 Malik Rose
#21 Wilson Chandler
#6 Patrick Ewing Jr.
#8 Danilo Gallinari
#23 Quentin Richardson
#5 Anthony Roberson
#25 Mardy Collins
#1 Chris Duhon
#3 Stephon Marbury
#4 Nate Robinson
#11 Jamal Crawford
#14 Allan Houston
#?? Dan Grunfeld
Dan Grunfeld gets a thumbdown, kick that maggot off the team. Roberson too, we dont need him. While their at it, how about Jared jeffries, malik rose, and eddy curry. These guys are all useless. Jerome James >> Curry
Expected Starters for Tonights Game
At Point guard, Chris Duhon
At Shooting guard, Jamal Crawford
At Small Forward, Quentin Richardson
At Power Forward, Zach Randolph
At Center, David Lee
No one cares about the Craptors, all there is to know about them is that they have chris bosh, jose calderon, and they traded TJ ford for Jermaine O'neal. They have some other good role players too.
Throwback Classic Joint of the Day:
Artist:Ghostface Killah Song Name:Save Me Dear
*I will not have as much time to make the game threads this year. Anyone whos interested in being my partner (no homo) can contact me by responding in this thread or private messaging me.
i missed the game, judging by the box scores we did alright.
lets not over annalyze a preseason game. It is our first game with a new coach, a new system and a new attitude. a 2 point loss is alright by me.
duhon - 10 rebounds are impressive, thish shows me that duhon is willing to hustle to get a rebound, he had 6 assists and only one foul in 33 minutes. however, the 1 for 7 shooting was not a good sign. hopefully its the rust of not being in the post season and a summer break.
Crawford - 10 pts, 7 assists, 2 turnovers, 2 for 9 shooting, 1 foul 1 steal. craw shot 2 for 9, but 5 of those were from behind the arc....minus the 3's he was 2 of 4 from inside which isnt bad. he shot 5/6 free throws....a little more aggression is needed....with his dribbling skills, jcraw can easily average 8-10 ft/game. also like his 33 minutes....he should average that much this season.
Mr. Lee Mr. Lee. - Amazing game.....22 n 9.....4/4 ft's. and a block...nice
zach - 19 and 13....the thing that stands out about zach to me, is his 5 assists...only duhon and crawford had more assists than zach. 19 pts, 13 boards...glad we didnt trade this guy.
q.rich - need more from him...12 pts 3 boards
n8 - beast
chandler - 15 n 6....thats all u ask out of a small foward.....15 n 6
marbury - a bit of a disappointment for the "best shape f his career" . more turnovers than assists is not good.
just judging by the box score.
cant wait for gallo to be fused in the offense. curry needs to go!
The Knicks first preseason game vs Toronto was a decent game to watch. It started out nice with the Knicks holding the lead untill the middle of the 3rd quarter. Coach Dantoni played some 2 units of basketball with adding a 3rd unit of an uptempo run n gun 3-guard play at times with Duhorn, Marbury, Crawford, or Nate.
The 2nd unit of Marbury, Nate, Chandler, and Malik played well on both side of the court they had no problem running an uptempo style of play always looking to push the ball.
Duhorn & Crawful seem to have problems passing in an uptempo system from having a habit of dribbling one, two, and three dribbles to much. I was looking for all the guards to push the ball up court as fast as they can through lob-passes or two to three passes up court without a dribble, but this was not done at anytime with Duhorn, Crawford, and Zach in the first unit. Q.Rich and Lee were the only players pushing the ball up court with lob-passes or getting the ball upcourt without dribbling it.
Toronto is a team that it is easy to run a fastbreak on, so Duhorn, Crawford, and Zach do need alot of work done to their game to get them up to speed in an uptempo system.
Zach Randolph first half of the game showed exellent chemistry with David Lee on the offensive side of the court. And their defensive rebounding was great too given Toronto one shot. The 2nd half of the game the Toronto guards, fowards, and center took it straight at Zach Randolph and changed the outlook of the game where Toronto was in control.
The Toronto Raptors did not play Bosh, J.O'Neal, and Caldron in the last 8 minutes of the 4th quarter to beat the Knicks starters.
River Rocks, Port Rich (Rio Piedras, Puerto Rico PUNETA!!!)
yes, finally, game threads...
Anyone know if this game is on NBATV 2night? Or on the web?
Was watching the lakers vs jazz last night... reminded me of Frye over Bynum.
Toronto is tougher upfront with Bosh and O'Neal.. both should be a challenge for Lee and Randolph. Likewise, Calderon will test our guards. On the otehr hand, it would've been nice to see El Gallo against Andrea a la Roman Gladiators.
I'm eager to see how Duhon, JC and Stephon run together.
Last edited by portega1968; Oct 08, 2008 at 16:23.
River Rocks, Port Rich (Rio Piedras, Puerto Rico PUNETA!!!)
found this non-Knick perspective on things
Title: Circus in Town
Article in today's Toronto Sun
by Ryan Wolstat
Just as New York is the city that never sleeps, the Knicks are the team that is never without controversy.
The Knicks, in town tonight as the Raptors make their home exhibition debut, just went through a typically tumultuous off-season.
Isiah Thomas finally was forced out after years of bungling, but longtime Pacers executive Donnie Walsh came in and gave former Phoenix Suns coach Mike D'Antoni a whopping four-year, $24-million US deal. Never mind that the current roster doesn't suit D'Antoni's run-and-gun style at all.
D'Antoni also must deal with highly paid wildcards Stephon Marbury and Eddy Curry.
Marbury and the club have been engaged in a cold war for months now. At one point it seemed certain that the Knicks would buy out Marbury and eat the remaining $21 million on his contract.
Walsh threw serious cash at former Chicago Bulls starter Chris Duhon, a less talented, but defensively superior player, and D'Antoni also has praised diminutive backup point guard Nate Robinson as a "scary athlete."
Marbury, the only former all-star on the New York roster, said earlier this week that he sees himself as the team's starter at the point and disregarded speculation that Duhon and Robinson had moved ahead of him on the depth chart.
"You can't assess it yet," Marbury said.
"When the 29th comes, when the lights come on, it will be different. It doesn't matter now who is on the court at what position. I know when the game starts, I'll have the ball or I'll be receiving the ball to make plays for others and myself."
However, Marbury backtracked yesterday, going out of his way to tell Marc Berman of the New York Post he is willing to come off the bench if it will make the team better.
"I don't want to go through any more distractions," Marbury said. "I want all of us to concentrate on winning and not if I'm going to start or not. If the Knicks want me to come off the bench, that's what I'm going to do. I just want to win a championship in New York because we as New Yorkers deserve a chip."
Even if that soap opera is now somewhat resolved, the Knicks must also deal with Curry. Curry reported for training camp out of shape and then came down with a bacterial infection.
The 6-foot-11, 285-pounder will not start tonight and might be usurped as the team's starting centre by the sleeker and much more athletic David Lee, a prototypical D'Antoni player.
Curry, who has three years and $31.5 million remaining on his deal, said yesterday that, like Marbury, he would prefer to start, but would deal with whatever decision D'Antoni makes.
The Knicks also have loose canon Zach Randolph on their roster and still are waiting for highly touted No. 6 overall selection Danilo Gallinari to find his health. The Italian forward missed training camp with a back injury.
SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE IS BITTER THAT COACH CHOSE NEW YORK OVER CANADA
1) I could help make some of the threads. I haven't been on this site as much as I used to, but I could help every once in awhile.
2) I have to give a lot of credit to Mike D'Antoni for benching Eddy Curry. Isiah Thomas should've done this last year, but he was too stupid to do it. I don't know what Mike D'Antoni sees in Jared Jeffries, but I prefer Jeffries over Curry; he actually plays defense, and he's a better passer than Curry.
i just wanted to know what everyone thought of the game last night. personally i was very pleased in the way they passed and they're defense was better. the only problem they had was there 3 and they're TO's.