View Poll Results: Who should be the starting Point guard?

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  • Nate Robinson

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  • Stephon Marbury

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Thread: New York Knicks vs Philadelphia 76ers Game Thread

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    Originally Posted by CoolClyde
    where is MSG2, it's not on MSG or MSG+... is this an extraneous pay channel?
    its channel 14 in my side of NY(BX)

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    Crawford is playing like **** but besides him i like what i see. Im more impressed with marburys defense then duhoe's. The starbarians have been pointing out marburys defense for a while now, haterburys dont know how to read.

    Originally Posted by New New York
    Cant believe you brought out the old Black Moon! Who Got Da Props is one my all time favorite joints!

    Back to basketball.....Duhon should start simply because moving him to the bench after one bad game could mean his confidence is lost for the season.
    I knew someone would say sumthin about that, hip hop was so much better back then. Black moon was never real popular even though they had a couple of singles that got play, but enta da stage is an undeniable classic.

    Originally Posted by metrocard
    What confidence? Duhon knows he's a bench/role player.

    If your using this confidence "case", then you proclaimed yourself as an idiot by insisting that Marbury's confidence is irrelevant as a 20 and 8 career all star caliber riding the bench to a C level PG.
    co-sign

    like clyde pointed out, marburys 14 points a game last year would be a career year for chris duhorn. lol @ duhoe and nate robinson gettin anal raped with no vaseline, most knicks fans know marbury belongs in the starting lineup as the poll results indicate.

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    Originally Posted by MSGKnickz33
    Crawford is playing like ****
    okay???

    he has 12 points, 4-7 FG, 1-2 From 3, 3 assists, 1 steal, 0 TO's so far, explain to me how he's having a bad game

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    Hes not playing any defense, but what else is new?

    Anyone see that shot swagbury just hit?

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    Originally Posted by MSGKnickz33
    Hes not playing any defense, but what else is new?

    Anyone see that shot swagbury just hit?
    sure MSG, because there's a guard in philly who's been really killin us, sure MSG,just go ahead and blame crawford for brand going crazy on us, i tell u this much though, ivey is going at it wit marbury

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    Originally Posted by datruth
    sure MSG, because there's a guard in philly who's been really killin us, sure MSG,just go ahead and blame crawford for brand going crazy on us, i tell u this much though, ivey is going at it wit marbury
    he wishes he could be going at it with marbury, good thing crawfords not guardin him

    Im just being an *******, crawford didnt do bad (on offense) tonight. He never plays any defense and i dont expect that to change. If hes gonna play all i can do is hope that he improves his shot selection and cuts down on the bad turnovers. Nates shot has been off, hes shooting 9-25 through the 1st 2 games

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    Originally Posted by MSGKnickz33
    Crawford is playing like **** but besides him i like what i see. Im more impressed with marburys defense then duhoe's. The starbarians have been pointing out marburys defense for a while now, haterburys dont know how to read.


    I knew someone would say sumthin about that, hip hop was so much better back then. Black moon was never real popular even though they had a couple of singles that got play, but enta da stage is an undeniable classic.


    co-sign

    like clyde pointed out, marburys 14 points a game last year would be a career year for chris duhorn. lol @ duhoe and nate robinson gettin anal raped with no vaseline, most knicks fans know marbury belongs in the starting lineup as the poll results indicate.

    Ok, I misunderstood the question....Being that it was a Game Thread I thought the question about who should be starting at PG was about tonight's game not all season. So that is why I mentioned it would hurt Duhon's confidence to move him out of the starting spot after one bad game.

    I created a thread breaking down Duhon's career stats and posed the question if he was starter worthy or not. I still think it is too early to determine just yet but, ofcourse it is hard to argue who has been the more productive of the two (Duhon and Steph) in their careers. So to go off of production and skill then hands down Steph should be the starter, but I think Dantoni is looking for more of a playmaker so you have to then assume that Duhon is the better fit in that scenerio.
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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    What confidence? Duhon knows he's a bench/role player.

    If your using this confidence "case", then you proclaimed yourself as an idiot by insisting that Marbury's confidence is irrelevant as a 20 and 8 career all star caliber riding the bench to a C level PG.

    See above reply

    A video dedication for you Metro since you like to critique every damn thing I say trying to catch me saying something wrong.

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    Didn't see the game, but looking at the box score and play by play, seems like Lee played good again, and that he made some jumpshots. Good to see.

    Also looks like Duhon played well...

    And Mardy got some grind...

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    i was wearing my welcome to bucktown shirt today

    the planets must have been aligned

    no pun intended


    f*** a review, go knicks!

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    Originally Posted by New New York
    See above reply

    A video dedication for you Metro since you like to critique every damn thing I say trying to catch me saying something wrong.

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    *****, you're not on that level yet; I and many others skip through your boring essays. Posting a lot everyday and all day isn't going to get you attention here.

    I don't got time to watch youtube videos of your mom shaking her culo to some corny reggaeton joint.

    Duhon is a C level PG, and is not a PLAYMAKER.

    Marbury is the best play maker on this roster, he's been restricted the last two seasons. MArbury unleashed is the best scoring threat on this team. We need his scoring and his efficient passing.

    Duhon isn't a consistent player...anyone who favors him over Steph will look like an idiot in 3 months.

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    D'Antonis' system uses multiple guard sets and basically keeps shooters on the perimeter. All you gotta do is move the ball and knock down your shots, or penetrate and dish. That being said it looks like Marbaury and Duhon can play together or are at least are interchangeable along with every other guard we have. It's the system!!! Don't matter who's in there. What will be interesting to see is a good half court team with a low-post beast that will test our low-post defense. It seems like we double down or trap on the post (w/ smaller defenders) and attempt to rotate to the ball whenever they dish it. We may give up alot of points but hopefully our Off. makes up for it.

    If we start winning consistently, who will we be trading by the deadline this year? Z-Bo, Lee, Maurbs, or Curry? And where the ****kk is Gallo?

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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    *****, you're not on that level yet; I and many others skip through your boring essays. Posting a lot everyday and all day isn't going to get you attention here.

    I don't got time to watch youtube videos of your mom shaking her culo to some corny reggaeton joint.

    Duhon is a C level PG, and is not a PLAYMAKER.

    Marbury is the best play maker on this roster, he's been restricted the last two seasons. MArbury unleashed is the best scoring threat on this team. We need his scoring and his efficient passing.

    Duhon isn't a consistent player...anyone who favors him over Steph will look like an idiot in 3 months.
    LOL, Why not watch the video my mother worked hard on it! You show you immaturity well Metro! I once told you that all your post were predictable consiting of three things and you proved me right once again, Thanks!

    Hey stupid isnt replying to every post I make giving attention? You get awfully worked up Metro I bet you jam your keys responding to me.Look you and all your "fans" (still LMAO at that one) can ignore all you want. I told you before I don't care about your poster ratings and all that, it's irrelevant to most of the posters on this site as well.

    Back to what really matters....Duhon plays for The Knicks, if he doesnt perform well then the team does not do well! So it is dumb to want him to under preform for the sake of being right about Steph. So far the offense has looked solid with the rotation being what it is, so who cares who starts the game. Steph could be the spark plug off the bench like Lee was the past couple of years that gave us a push when the starting five was slack. I say why not try Crawford as sixth man and let Steph play the Off Guard during preseason game to see how it works?

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    Dont quote me, but coach Dantoni is doing a well and wise job starting Duhorn & Crawful over Marbury & Nate during the Preseason games.
    I hope he does the samething at the start of regular season to Zach Randolph & Q.Rich by starting Curry & Chandler over them.

    Philly's Miller, Iggy, and Young, put a spanking on our Knicks Starters in the first quarter taking a 12 point lead in the first 6 minutes of the game.
    When Marbury, Nate, Chandler, and Malik entered into the game in the first quarter Philly had a 14 point lead.

    The Second Quarter of the game "Marbury & Malik Rose" took "total" charge of not only the Knicks but Philly too.....with an outstanding 2nd quarter "38-13" taking away Philly's team confidence to start the 2nd half of the game.

    Combo-Guards Marbury & Nate will be the "Starters" when the regular season games start. The two players give this team a better flexability as starters and backup replacements early in the backcourt..... more defense you add Duhorn or Collins, more offense you add Crawful off the bench.

    Sorry to say, but Malik Rose performance in the last two games put a shutdown on all the Knicks oposition frontcourt scorers.
    This is good for Eddy Curry performance in a lineup alongside of a PF or SF Malik Rose.
    Marbury leading the guards and Malik leading the bigmen in a lineup together has finally showed up on this team during the first two preseasons.

    During the regular season will the old conflict rise of leadership between Crawful, Q.Rich, and Zach against "Marbury & Malik" which coach Dantoni actually seperated into two-units during these preseason games?

    Eddy Curry supposed and should be the suprise player in this season rotation that gives us 10 to 15 more wins than lastseason. When you include Marbury into that rotation for 82 games in the backcourt with Nate & Duhorn its supposed to be 20 more wins than lastseason.

    Thinking about Gallinari......brings me to Bayless outstanding performance lastnight over the Atlanta Hawks. Bayless scored 15 points off of 60% fg shooting, had 7 assists, 7 rebounds, and 4 turnovers. He is a future all-star player, but the best part is he would've been the prime reason to trade Crawful this past offseason.

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    lol @ self ethering your mom with your dry sarcasm.

    My post > your post, I have suscribers; people here still don't even know you. LOL, you mad? I spend less time here too and you try way too hard to get a rep. Just give it up, leeching off me to get famous is really pathetic. Stop, you look like an obsessive maricon.

    Who said I wanted Duhon to under preform?

    You're making up statements since you have nothing in this arguement.

    That was never stated.

    I presented the arguement that I expect (level of standard) that Duhon isn't skilled, talented, experienced, and worthy of the starting PG position over Marbury, from pass history and the fact that Marbury is superior overall.

    Its only been two preseason games, stop basing your judgment on such little things; it makes you look dumber than you actually are. (congrats on completing such a complex unhumanly task, atleast you do something original for once)

    See how it works?

    See.

    Thats the mentally retarded mentality that leads to failing.

    Why not try Curry at PG and see how it works?

    IT WOULDN'T.

    Theres some basic common knowledge that most people should know, and you're a below average human being, so you wouldn't have an idea.

    Marbury isn't an OFF GUARD.

    For over 10 years in the NBA, he's been a PG, nothing else. Thats his only position.

    Whether its scoring or dishing, Marbury is most COMFORTABLE at PG and his SKILLS are most useful at the PG position.

    We've seen Marbury play off guard with Francis, Crawford, Robinson, Collins, etc and other C level quality wanna be PG's...it doesn't work.

    Marbury just needs to play a Tony Parker role; unfortunately for Steph, he's never had the supporting cast to be FREE and play that role.

    Duhon is a glorified scrub in reality.

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