Jimcheif, shoot first guards don't have a place in this offense...WTF? Are you retarded? Crawford and Robinson? Duhon isn't even that great of a passer, his scoring is limited, therefor he gets the pass PG title.
You're just not bright to really say Curry is needed with no explanation. No one agrees with you, not even my rivals on this site.
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desde la cuna del chango
The Marbury situation is similiar to the Chandler situation last year albiet at opposite ends of the spectrum. Last year fans were right in being all over IT for not playing Chandler and getting him valuable experience, especially since we sucked. This years coach has determined that Marbury is not part of the future and there is no reason for him to take valuable minutes from other players. Like it or not Mike D is the coach and that's his plan and we as fans need to support him and our team. If he falls flat on his face (I don't see that happening) then you can critisize him all you want. It's not like Marbury hasn't been given the chance to prove himself. He's been given 4 years to shed his image as a losing player and has not done anything to redeem himself.
I do see Mike D finally giving up on Mardy and giving his minutes to Steph but that's all Steph will get.
I do also see two scenerios whereby Steph might get some serious run:
1). If by some act of god we become a bonafide playoff contender (unlikely but not impossible).
2). Some other team in contention come trade deadline thinks Marbury is the missing piece to put them over the top and are willing to overpay to rent Marbury for 1/2 a season.
I will say one last thing (and all Knick players and coaches will agree):
ITS TIME FOR STARBURY (AND ALL THE STARBURIANS) TO SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP. LET'S GET BEHIND OUR TEAM AND OUR COACH AND CHEER FOR A SUCESSFUL WINNING SEASON.
Of course there's some guys that you don't want on the roster, that's what rebuilding is. I know fans, esp. fans in NY HATE the r-word but that's what they are doing right now. They aren't going to win a championship this year or next, I think more important though is getting the guys who ARE in the future plans time together. I know personally, when I play basketball, I play much better with people I've played with for 4 years or more over people I've never played with, that I think is the important thing this year. There's half that aren't in the future plans, but for the half that ARE, get them playing together. That means letting a guy like Nate run with Chandler and Lee, that means sitting a guy like Curry who you are looking desperately to move, same thing I think with Marbury.
This team might win 30 games, they might not, they might make the playoffs in a depleted East, they might not.
Whatever the case I think if we see real change in the chemistry, a better flow to the game when they younger guys are on the floor, better movement between Gallo and Nate and Chandler and Lee, then this season is a success...
The road to success can sometimes be long and hard (although in the Knicks case longer and harder than most).
The blame for our recent failures is a long list of players, coaches, GMs, Presidents and especially one clueless owner.
I truly believe the Knicks downward spiral began with the signing of Alan Houston to a $100 Million contract. A nice player but no superstar deserving of a max contract. The downward spiral ended with the firing of Larry Brown not Isaah. Brown gave the knicks nothing. Isaah (although probably the worst coach in NY Knick history) at least gave us some nice pieces to the puzzle with low draft picks (Lee, Chandler and Nate) and started the Knicks back on the road to sucess. Now with Mike D at the helm you will see the Knicks flourish.
Will the knicks win a championship under D'Antoni, only time will tell. I do know however we are a lot closer now then we've been in the last 10 years.
As for E-City, I still contend we will need his presence sooner than later on this squad. Just because I am in the minority doesn't mean I'm wrong because Noah was the only man that knew it was going to rain. E-Rob does not play or defend the post and Lee is a hustle player and is too small. Elton Brand is going to kill our frontline Friday night. Eastern conference teams will slow it down on us and kill our frontline. Your other man-crush "Big ****" isn't even 200 pounds soaking wet. If Udanis Haslem had his way in the paint against our frontline, what are the likes of the Big Ticket, Elton Brand or Rasheed Wallace going to do???
Cheif, you need to correct yourself next time. Pointguards and guards are two different things.
Gallinari is a better post defender than Curry and he's 200 pounds lighter than him.
Why are you criticizing other's defense when Curry is the worst?
I wasn't talking to you after line one.
Are you on this forum 24/7 now since your confidence is so low you're now on a mission to prove to metrocard you can be a quality poster? Your effort is comical.
I never said anything about a snap of a finger, I'm not some maricon como tu...snapping your fingers...wtf???
I said we need to start making moves NOW...not trade everyone, but get rid of the players that won't be apart of the future. You need to study more into what rebuilding and "chemistry" is. I study sports performance and pyschology with studies focused in exercise science and sports management...where as you...welll, you... I don't know, you're a nobody...lol stop getting gased and hop off me.
Well I didn't realize that metrotard.
About the snap of a finger, maricon, I was referring to my own post in which I said the team couldn't snap their fingers and become a contender. It's a figure of speech...I didn't attack you, you are the one flinging personal insults all over the place, not me.
Edit: Nobody else seemed to have a problem with what I had to say, except you. Maybe because you're afraid I'm stealing your thunder. Relax pal, there's room for 2...
Edit 2: Seriously metro, in all seriousness, what kind of stuff does sports psychology entail? I have a couple theories on it myself, but I actually would like to talk about the type of **** you learn. I think sports figures are really interesting in terms of psyche and mental stability, especially with what's going on with Vince Young.
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Finally Metro we've found ground we can agree on...lol. I've been saying for the last 20 years that every sports team needs a sports psychologist as an intregal part of the coaching/management team. The reason prospects, or any player for that matter, fail or underachieve is more times then not inside their heads.
I'm also thinking we may need a psychologist for this site!!!!!!!!!...lol
Starboy is sitting because he's a mental case and mouthed off to Eddie House in preseason. it was horrible sportsmanship, and D'antoni d'ont need d'at. I predict Steph will get minutes imminently and play himself into lineup as soon as team needs him, and he shows mental improvement (ie: team chemistry).
Curry is sitting because he came to camp out of shape, missed preseason and training camp, and runs around like a blind cyclops (thanks Dirk), totally out of sync and hence, not in the rotation.
Malik Rose is next to go, he's looking lost too. When he chucks up 3's it's as painful as watching Jeffries or Balkmania shoot em, way back when.
Gallo looked like a big **** with it's head cut off, running around like blind cyclops... oh wait...
I can't see Chandler not starting for long, Q-Thug needs more bench time, he seems to have good minutes, then disappears. Chandler makes things happen on both ends, and deserves to start.
Ideally, I'd like to see N8, Crawford, Chandler, Lee and Randolph start, or at least get heavy minutes together, but realistically, it'll prob be: