View Poll Results: Who Should We Draft?

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  • Brandon Jennings

    8 12.90%
  • Ricky Rubio

    22 35.48%
  • Demar DeRozan

    3 4.84%
  • Tyreke Evans

    1 1.61%
  • Blake Griffin

    10 16.13%
  • other

    18 29.03%
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Thread: I Know It's Early-But Who Should We Draft?

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    Everyone has great upside.
    Including me and you.

    DeRozan isn't that good to be in the same sentence as Kobe. Just because he's an athletic wing who can dunk doesn't really gve the same right to be on Kobe's level...if he was good as a prospect as Kobe, he would of dominated the Pac-10. He really wasn't a factor, OJ Mayo is light years ahead of DeRozan.

    Really have no clue how you came up with that, seriously.

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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    Everyone has great upside.
    Including me and you.

    DeRozan isn't that good to be in the same sentence as Kobe. Just because he's an athletic wing who can dunk doesn't really gve the same right to be on Kobe's level...if he was good as a prospect as Kobe, he would of dominated the Pac-10. He really wasn't a factor, OJ Mayo is light years ahead of DeRozan.

    Really have no clue how you came up with that, seriously.
    here we go again.what is it with you?

    this aint

    metrocardpeoplewhoagreewithhim&peoplewhodisagreewi thhim.com.

    it's knicksonline.com. save that philosophical bull**** for somebody else.
    you think kobe was kobe of now coming out of high school?
    no he wasn't.i said he's probably as good a prospect coming out of high school as kobe was.stop acting like you're bumass runs this site.

    the nerve of this **** coming of all smug and **** with his wack ass jc penny jacket.****outta here.

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    I just wish there were more ready point guards in the draft. Watching Duhon is like watching the twin of Howard Eisley. I think Duhon is too conservative for this system, and in that he averages 3 turnovers a game. This team needs a great point guard badly, as well as a center to protect the paint. By the time we pick Rubio/Griffin will be gone, so drafting explosive open court players such as Demar DeRozan and Al-Farouq Aminu is the way to go.

    Another option is to trade up and if we can't, trade down for more picks. This has to be one of the weakest drafts in some time, so if we can't get Rubio or Griffin, lets just trade down with a team like the Timberwolves or Thunder who have 3 first round picks each.



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    I think Ty Lawson would be a great PG for this system. He's incredibly fast, and great at setting up his teammates. He's athletic and strong, and he's very adept at getting in the lane. UNC's style of play is very similar to D'antoni's system, so he's already used to a high pace system. He has a high work ethic, and I think he has the potential to become a good shooter.

    He's pretty good defensively too. He can play the passing lanes, and his man to man defense is impressive when focused. His size may hurt him, but he can make up for it with his speed and athleticism.

    Lawson is a true, pass first PG who can also create his own shot. He's the perfect PG for this system (outside of Rubio).

    On the bright side, his form is much closer to textbook on his free throws, so it's not unreasonable to expect it to carry over to his in-game shooting over time. Hes doubled his rate of makes from 3-point range from his freshman to junior seasons, while increasing his percentages 14% thus far. His true shooting percentage currently ranks second amongst all point guards, and would rank tops of any point guard in the last four drafts if he maintained the same rate through <nobr id="itxt_nobr_149_0" style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 100%;">ACC</nobr> play.
    In terms of attacking the basket, Lawson has arguably taken his game to the next level here as well, showing the same prowess in the transition game, but also looking a bit more comfortable attacking off the dribble in the half-court, making excellent utilization of hesitation and in-and-out dribbles in combination with his footwork and body control, getting into the lane with ease.
    Defensively, Lawson is very much the same player, a huge disruptive force on the weak-side (3.7 steals per 40 minutes pace adjusted, ranked [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]), and capable of being a highly effective man-to-man defender when he locks down, but often shows an inconsistent stance in that area, while his size is also a disadvantage
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    ^^
    I'm on the same page with you again there JayJ. He automatically gets the upper hand as an undersized player even at the point when compared to Nate. Pass first v shoot and dance first will win the day with any and all sub 6 footers. Quick and savvy with good shooting form & built to last, less deformed than Duhon. Suits our back-court needs to a T.

    The only problem is skipping drafting a young big man.

    Hard to really put a stamp on which is needed more than the other.

    Mike D has said himself that his system is reliant on a capable point man, but perhaps a rookie isn't the answer in his eyes?

    Wait and see I suppose.

    I put him in my 09-10 starting 5 on the trade thread and would love to see him speedily orchestrating the Knicks.

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    Originally Posted by ANU
    here we go again.what is it with you?

    this aint

    metrocardpeoplewhoagreewithhim&peoplewhodisagreewi thhim.com.

    it's knicksonline.com. save that philosophical bull**** for somebody else.
    you think kobe was kobe of now coming out of high school?
    no he wasn't.i said he's probably as good a prospect coming out of high school as kobe was.stop acting like you're bumass runs this site.

    the nerve of this **** coming of all smug and **** with his wack ass jc penny jacket.****outta here.
    Actually it is.

    I don't know why you got so mad.

    I just laid down the facts about DeRozan.

    You came back with no reply...just a comment on my jacket.

    You said:
    Probably?

    So you don't even know.

    All you know is how DeRozan's **** taste...you gave us NOTHIG or any documented data that DeRozan was as good as Kobe coming out of High School.

    DeRozan isn't even the best player on USC. So **** his no handle low basketball IQ I can't shoot 3's ass.

    DeRozan definately was not Kobe coming out of High School, I and the rest of the site definately know that for sure.

    I don't see why you got so tight because I exposed your boy.

    Should I just sit here and let your homosexual love for DeTurnover currupt the site?

    Even my rivals on this site know I speak the truth, and thats what pisses off no bodies like you...dudes who lurk and hate, and I see me drop the knowledge with an arrogrance that pisses them off.


    I'm going to end DeRozan's hype right now on KNicksonline, because all youv'e been doing n this site is riding that young boy's meat.

    DeRozan's best case is Pietrus with poor D.

    He's not an all star caliber player, never will be. If he gets drafted in the lottery, he will certainly be a bust since he's not that GOOD.

    The two core attributes of a guard is BALL HANDLING, SHOOTING, 1ST STEP TO THE BASKET, AND BEING DYNAMIC ON OFFENSE.

    DeRozan has an F rating in all these attributes.

    He does not have the basketball fundamentals to be a success in the NBA at this stage. His attacking ability is going to be severely limited if he cannot learn to develop his handle.

    I can't really remember a shooting guard who couldn't hit the college 3 line coming out and turning into a good player.

    DeRozan is no different from Bill Walker.

    Hacket's all-around game was more impressive than DeRozan's. If DeRozan goes pro this year, he'll have a horrible rookie year and drive his coach nuts. Right now, he can't even play guard. He's got to work on all of his perimeter skills - especially his jump shot.

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    Originally Posted by JayJ44
    I think Ty Lawson would be a great PG for this system. He's incredibly fast, and great at setting up his teammates. He's athletic and strong, and he's very adept at getting in the lane. UNC's style of play is very similar to D'antoni's system, so he's already used to a high pace system. He has a high work ethic, and I think he has the potential to become a good shooter.

    He's pretty good defensively too. He can play the passing lanes, and his man to man defense is impressive when focused. His size may hurt him, but he can make up for it with his speed and athleticism.

    Lawson is a true, pass first PG who can also create his own shot. He's the perfect PG for this system (outside of Rubio).






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    Great stuff.

    Ty Lawson was a 5 star recruit from High School...so you know he has mad talent....the man has it all.

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    I don't follow college much, never had a team so never had anyone to really root for. None of my close friends really went to a big time school, one of my best friends went to ASU but they've only really been good this year. In thinking about the future long term, what about this kid Renardo Sydney from Fairfax High in California. Committed to USC, he's 6'10" and growing, and he can shoot the 3.



    Any thoughts on this more long term type of guy?

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    Lol At This Faggots Long Winded Rant. I'm Not Reading That ****.
    This Is My Last Response To You.you're Irrelevant.you're On The Same Site We All Are.stop Acting Like You Know More Than Anybody Else.
    Get Off My Dick.go buy yourself something fresher that jacket is garbage.

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    little *****z always looking for beef...SMH

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    im officially on the Lawson bandwagon. We can trade for a bigman in the offseason.

    Pg is one of our weakest positions considering Duhon is the starter.


    D'Antoni would make Lawson an epic Pg. and would do to him what D'Antoni did for Nash.

    Lawson works hard and wants to be great thats the attitude we need, and he's a leader, another missing piece perhaps more than a center

    D'Antoni will make this dude an allstar by his 3rd year.


    with the 7th pick the knicks draft Ty Lawson.

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    Originally Posted by DaTPRiNCE
    im officially on the Lawson bandwagon. We can trade for a bigman in the offseason.

    Pg is one of our weakest positions considering Duhon is the starter.


    D'Antoni would make Lawson an epic Pg. and would do to him what D'Antoni did for Nash.

    Lawson works hard and wants to be great thats the attitude we need, and he's a leader, another missing piece perhaps more than a center

    D'Antoni will make this dude an allstar by his 3rd year.


    with the 7th pick the knicks draft Ty Lawson.
    co-sign.

    I could see Lawson putting up Chris Paul type numbers with 3pt range.

    Lawson has been a winner for all his career at UNC.

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    Originally Posted by DaTPRiNCE
    im officially on the Lawson bandwagon. We can trade for a bigman in the offseason.

    Pg is one of our weakest positions considering Duhon is the starter.


    D'Antoni would make Lawson an epic Pg. and would do to him what D'Antoni did for Nash.

    Lawson works hard and wants to be great thats the attitude we need, and he's a leader, another missing piece perhaps more than a center

    D'Antoni will make this dude an allstar by his 3rd year.


    with the 7th pick the knicks draft Ty Lawson.

    Agreed.

    The more I see Ty play, the more it seems destined for him to be our starting PG next year.

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    I think the only other player I would really want for the knicks to draft besides lawson is monroe.

    I would be happy with either one.

    As much as I do like Lawson here are some little things I am worried about him:

    1) His jumpshot: I rarely see him take a shot. Most of the time he is taking it to the house. Apparently his report says it has a slow release and its shot low. With his height that can definitely be a problem. In the NBA level he won't have the opportunities to drive it in like he does in college. I hope this can be fixed. Now the good thing is his shot selection. They guy knows his strengths and plays to them unlike certain shot chuckers we have/had.

    2) His defense: The guy is definitely a pest on D. He works hard and attacks the ball. I worry because UNC plays great team D. The knicks do not play great team D, so I am not sure how Lawson will handle guarding NBA players by himself.

    3) UNC NBA quality: Last player under Roy Williams at UNC to succeed in the NBA is...... no one yet. Hopefully, Lawson can change this.

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    McCants, Williams are pretty good.

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