View Poll Results: Who Should We Draft?

Voters
62. You may not vote on this poll
  • Brandon Jennings

    8 12.90%
  • Ricky Rubio

    22 35.48%
  • Demar DeRozan

    3 4.84%
  • Tyreke Evans

    1 1.61%
  • Blake Griffin

    10 16.13%
  • other

    18 29.03%
Page 25 of 28 FirstFirst ... 519202122232425262728 LastLast
Results 361 to 375 of 418

Thread: I Know It's Early-But Who Should We Draft?

  1. #361
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    165
    Rep Power
    6

    Default

    Originally Posted by metrocard
    How can he be like Chris Paul if he can't even dominate slow Europeans? Jennings has been one of the worst players on his team.
    dude can play. I mean, with the minutes he play there 15-18 min, you really can't expect big numbers from him. All u have to do is watch his vids. The guy is athletic, can pass, create his shots and obviously plays fast and fits with the fast paced style New York play. And if he's available at 8 spot, I don't see why we shouldn't pick him.

  2. #362
    Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    60
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    yeah, i totally agree...jennings will be a great fit for the knicks...but i just cant see him ending up in ny...i believe that even if he's available at 8, d antoni will pick someone else...or even if we get up the draft,4-5-6 maybe,again i dont think dantoni likes him...

  3. #363
    Veteran LJ4ptplay's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Ft. Collins, CO
    Posts
    2,950
    Rep Power
    12

    Default



    It only took me 9 tries to get the #1 pick.
    [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

  4. #364
    12th man
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Far far away from the orgy that consist of clyde, 8's, rady, smokes and rono
    Posts
    11,260
    Rep Power
    0

    Nyk Logo

    Originally Posted by bfab99
    dude can play. I mean, with the minutes he play there 15-18 min, you really can't expect big numbers from him. All u have to do is watch his vids. The guy is athletic, can pass, create his shots and obviously plays fast and fits with the fast paced style New York play. And if he's available at 8 spot, I don't see why we shouldn't pick him.
    If highlight videos told the story, Nate Robinson would be surely rated higher than Chris Paul.

    They don't.

    We know he's athletic, and fast.

    But Jenning SUCKS at playing organized basketball.
    He really does.
    He's been AWFUL in Roma, have you followed him?

    He can't shoot. (22% 3pt shooter in Europe where the 3pt line is shorter)
    He can't pass at a high efficiency yet, he's super turnover prone and overdribbles
    Not a shutdown defender.


    He's just learning how to be a pass first point guard right now...he was a shoot first PG throughout HS.

    "Perimeter shooting is the area that Jennings needs to work the most on if he’s to come anywhere close to reaching his full potential as a scorer—he’s made just 22 of 99 attempts from beyond the arc in 43 games in both the Euroleague and Italian league this season, or 22%.

    Jennings has a tendency to contort his body and fade away excessively on many of his attempts—something he’s been working on extensively with Bosnian assistant Nenad Trajkovic, who was hired after Nando Gentile replaced former head coach Jasmin Repesa in December. Trajkovic worked for many years as an assistant and head coach with Serbian powerhouse Partizan Belgrade, widely considered the best team in European basketball in everything revolving around developing young players. "

    Not good.

  5. #365
    Veteran ANU's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    1,068
    Rep Power
    8

    Default

    bottom line is, the fix has to be in, or stern is a bulls fan.
    ain't no way in hell the lotto aint fixed.lebron to cleveland?
    rose to chicago? come on.

  6. #366
    Veteran JayJ44's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Brooklyn
    Posts
    1,700
    Rep Power
    8

    Default

    What do you guys think of Stephen Curry?

    I've compared to him to JJ Redick in the past, and after doing my research, I'm taking that back. His ball handling, passing, and court vision are far superior to Redick's. He averaged 5.6 assists at Davidson, which is pretty good considering the level of talent he was surrounded with. He would actually make an excellent PG in this system; with his shooting and pick and roll capabilities (averaged 1.3 PPP on the pick and roll). He had to do pretty much everything for his team at Davidson, so he should be much more efficient in a lesser role. He has a good attitude and obviously REALLY wants to play for the Knicks.

    On the other hand, his defense scares me. He's small, not very athletic or quick, and has an average wingspan. I can see him being easily taken advantage of in the NBA.

    I think I would prefer a guy like Ty Lawson rather than Curry. He's stronger, and is a better defender. But if we do end up drafting Curry (which seems likely), I could live with Curry's shooting ability.

  7. #367
    The One and Only KING~POETIQ's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Queens the Foundation
    Posts
    1,807
    Rep Power
    7

    Default

    Originally Posted by ANU
    bottom line is, the fix has to be in, or stern is a bulls fan.
    ain't no way in hell the lotto aint fixed.lebron to cleveland?
    rose to chicago? come on.
    hey, I hope that's true. That means somehow we are gonna get first pick in 2010 and draft Lance Stephenson (brooklyn native)

  8. #368
    Superstar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Posts
    599
    Rep Power
    6

    Default

    Originally Posted by ANU
    bottom line is, the fix has to be in, or stern is a bulls fan.
    ain't no way in hell the lotto aint fixed.lebron to cleveland?
    rose to chicago? come on.
    Nah there's no way they would risk fixing it and later it leaks out to the public. Orlando had a 1% chance of getting the Chris Webber pick..why would the NBA fix it for him to go there? San Antonio, Sacramento, Portland, Toronto, Milwaukee, New Jersey..not the biggest markets have won the draft. Its all just luck there was never any evidence of a conspiracy.

    It is fun though to look back and see how things would have changed had the worst teams get the top picks.

    Minnesota got screwed the most over early-mid 90's..

    If the draft was based on record they could have chosen from
    1992 - Shaq or Mourning
    1993 - A. Hardaway or Mashburn
    1994 - Jason Kidd or Grant Hill
    1995 - Well, hat year worked out for them to move down to #5
    Then they lost a couple 1st round picks for the Joe Smith incident..Had the same chance as Portland to get the #1 pick in 2007, but didn't get it.

    Maybe there is a conspiracy against Minnesota?

  9. #369
    Veteran
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    7,033
    Rep Power
    19

    Nyk Logo

    Out of all the PG in this draft only one will give us the toughness and speed we receive from Nate Robinson. And that is Ty Lawson.
    However, to draft Ty Lawson means we dont need Nate on the roster....and to sign and trade Nate will only put $$$ on the salary cap disrupting the 2010 plan.

    Replacing a hard nose working combo-guard that get carried away sometimes by putting out to much effort with another hard working natural PG that will give u the samething.....is not focusing on the TEAMS empty spots at the SG, PF, and Center position in this draft.

  10. #370
    Veteran
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    7,033
    Rep Power
    19

    Nyk Logo

    Lets complete one phraze of rebuilding this offseason.

    Believe me when I say, "the Knicks been suffering at the SG position the last 6 seasons". It was not hard for the Nets and Suns to recognize all of PG-Marbury weaknesses through their SG-Kittles, SG-Stephon Jackson, and SG-Joe Johnson.

    For as long as I been playing and watching Basketball it has been the teams SG or SF performance which decides on the type of PG that best fit the team
    (example is PG-Billups with Rip & Prince, or J.R Smith & Melo).

    The experience of competing in the NBA makes a star PG not the draft....the Magic Johnsons, Isiahs, Stoctons, Kidd, CP3, and D.Rose, are few and a percentage of 1 out of a 1000.
    To this day I frown on the Orlando Magic for trading Chris Webber for Penny Hardaway, when Shaq & Webber would've gave the Orlando Magic a couple of Championship Trophies.

    This past season we watched Duhon & Nate hold down both the PG and SG position, having just a small rotation of players we had to use SF without any handle or decent passing-skillz to play the SG position, which gave more pressure to Duhon and Nate at bringing up the ball at the speed inwhich Dantoni's "seven-second system" would allow.

    We have Duhon and Nate as our PG for the next 1 to 4 years untill we can find better (which we wont find any PG better or tougher with our 8th pick). Resigning Nate's toughness is a must.
    So selecting our future SG with the 8th pick would be the best solution for us in this draft. Buying a pick or two would also be a great move along with signing a shooter or rebounder from the D-League to develope in our practice sessions next season.

    It would be nice to start next season with a 3 to 4 guard rotation that can hang with the Eastern Conference best guards.
    Duhon and Nate did an exceptional well job this past season by themselves, and will only show improvement next season.
    Larry Hughes is not in our future but could be a great learning tool for our rookie star SG this season.
    We are building for chemistry this offseason and having a guard line-up of Duhon, Nate, and Harding would be a compliment to this team future growth.....for whatever take place in this 2010 plan.

  11. #371
    The One and Only KING~POETIQ's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Queens the Foundation
    Posts
    1,807
    Rep Power
    7

    Default

    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    Lets complete one phraze of rebuilding this offseason.

    Believe me when I say, "the Knicks been suffering at the SG position the last 6 seasons". It was not hard for the Nets and Suns to recognize all of PG-Marbury weaknesses through their SG-Kittles, SG-Stephon Jackson, and SG-Joe Johnson.

    For as long as I been playing and watching Basketball it has been the teams SG or SF performance which decides on the type of PG that best fit the team
    (example is PG-Billups with Rip & Prince, or J.R Smith & Melo).

    The experience of competing in the NBA makes a star PG not the draft....the Magic Johnsons, Isiahs, Stoctons, Kidd, CP3, and D.Rose, are few and a percentage of 1 out of a 1000.
    To this day I frown on the Orlando Magic for trading Chris Webber for Penny Hardaway, when Shaq & Webber would've gave the Orlando Magic a couple of Championship Trophies.

    This past season we watched Duhon & Nate hold down both the PG and SG position, having just a small rotation of players we had to use SF without any handle or decent passing-skillz to play the SG position, which gave more pressure to Duhon and Nate at bringing up the ball at the speed inwhich Dantoni's "seven-second system" would allow.

    We have Duhon and Nate as our PG for the next 1 to 4 years untill we can find better (which we wont find any PG better or tougher with our 8th pick). Resigning Nate's toughness is a must.
    So selecting our future SG with the 8th pick would be the best solution for us in this draft. Buying a pick or two would also be a great move along with signing a shooter or rebounder from the D-League to develope in our practice sessions next season.

    It would be nice to start next season with a 3 to 4 guard rotation that can hang with the Eastern Conference best guards.
    Duhon and Nate did an exceptional well job this past season by themselves, and will only show improvement next season.
    Larry Hughes is not in our future but could be a great learning tool for our rookie star SG this season.
    We are building for chemistry this offseason and having a guard line-up of Duhon, Nate, and Harding would be a compliment to this team future growth.....for whatever take place in this 2010 plan.
    Good post, Kiyaman.


    I agree with you that nate was the man last year. He deserves a new contract. Hopefully we see him as a knick for our championship run in the future.


    I also wondered what could have been of the orlando magic if they would have kept webber. They also had nick anderson, so they didn't need another scoring guard.

  12. #372
    I got Soul StreetDreams21's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Vegas/NY
    Posts
    1,404
    Rep Power
    8

    Default

    Originally Posted by dave2138
    Nah there's no way they would risk fixing it and later it leaks out to the public. Orlando had a 1% chance of getting the Chris Webber pick..why would the NBA fix it for him to go there? San Antonio, Sacramento, Portland, Toronto, Milwaukee, New Jersey..not the biggest markets have won the draft. Its all just luck there was never any evidence of a conspiracy.

    It is fun though to look back and see how things would have changed had the worst teams get the top picks.

    Minnesota got screwed the most over early-mid 90's..

    If the draft was based on record they could have chosen from
    1992 - Shaq or Mourning
    1993 - A. Hardaway or Mashburn
    1994 - Jason Kidd or Grant Hill
    1995 - Well, hat year worked out for them to move down to #5
    Then they lost a couple 1st round picks for the Joe Smith incident..Had the same chance as Portland to get the #1 pick in 2007, but didn't get it.

    Maybe there is a conspiracy against Minnesota?
    C-Shaq
    F-Garnett (the one we liked, the HOF player on the crap team)
    F-Hill
    G-R. Allen (assuming they never trade for starbury)
    G-Penny

    WIN

    its amazing to look back and see what couldve been, not only for the knicks but the other teams overall.

  13. #373
    Sexy Stud knickzrulezH20's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    NJ
    Posts
    1,781
    Rep Power
    8

    Default

    Originally Posted by StreetDreams21
    C-Shaq
    F-Garnett (the one we liked, the HOF player on the crap team)
    F-Hill
    G-R. Allen (assuming they never trade for starbury)
    G-Penny

    WIN

    its amazing to look back and see what couldve been, not only for the knicks but the other teams overall.
    theres only one prob with that, if they got shaq to start out with, then theyd have too good of a record to get every1 else in the later years lol

  14. #374
    Veteran ANU's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    1,068
    Rep Power
    8

    Default

    Originally Posted by SLY1984
    hey, I hope that's true. That means somehow we are gonna get first pick in 2010 and draft Lance Stephenson (brooklyn native)
    lance can be ill, be he needs to be as greedy on the defensive end as he is on the offensive end.

    Originally Posted by dave2138
    Nah there's no way they would risk fixing it and later it leaks out to the public. Orlando had a 1% chance of getting the Chris Webber pick..why would the NBA fix it for him to go there? San Antonio, Sacramento, Portland, Toronto, Milwaukee, New Jersey..not the biggest markets have won the draft. Its all just luck there was never any evidence of a conspiracy.

    It is fun though to look back and see how things would have changed had the worst teams get the top picks.

    Minnesota got screwed the most over early-mid 90's..

    If the draft was based on record they could have chosen from
    1992 - Shaq or Mourning
    1993 - A. Hardaway or Mashburn
    1994 - Jason Kidd or Grant Hill
    1995 - Well, hat year worked out for them to move down to #5
    Then they lost a couple 1st round picks for the Joe Smith incident..Had the same chance as Portland to get the #1 pick in 2007, but didn't get it.

    Maybe there is a conspiracy against Minnesota?
    i know.i was just kidding my self.

    this guy can go **** himself.

  15. #375
    12th man
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Far far away from the orgy that consist of clyde, 8's, rady, smokes and rono
    Posts
    11,260
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    Originally Posted by bfab99
    dude can play. I mean, with the minutes he play there 15-18 min, you really can't expect big numbers from him. All u have to do is watch his vids. The guy is athletic, can pass, create his shots and obviously plays fast and fits with the fast paced style New York play. And if he's available at 8 spot, I don't see why we shouldn't pick him.
    He can't play. He hasn't shown he could play at a professional level.

    15-18 minutes isn't that bad for a young guy's first season.
    But in those 15-18 Jennings exposed himself and all his weaknesses. Didn't really help himself.

    Why we shouldn't pick him?
    Heres why:
    Jenning's glaring weaknesses
    - Decision making
    - Dominant ball-handler
    - Efficiency
    - Out of control at times
    - Shot-selection
    - Ability to fight through screens
    - Activity level
    - Commitment to playing defense
    - Man to man defense
    - Academic issues?
    - Leadership skills
    - Not ready to contribute immediately
    - Not productive enough
    - Average size
    - Upper body strength
    - Poor rebounder
    - 3-point shooting percentages
    - Ability to catch and shoot
    - Low shooting percentages

Similar Threads

  1. Donnie Walsh draft record
    By Kiyaman in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: Jun 24, 2008, 03:06
  2. Replies: 22
    Last Post: May 27, 2008, 18:29
  3. Knicks Draft: Media Feedback
    By Die Dolan Die in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: Jul 01, 2006, 05:04
  4. Official Draft Thread
    By NYKnicks15 in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 55
    Last Post: Jun 30, 2006, 00:22

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •