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    Marbury averaged 3.5 Turnovers per game in his playoff experiences and Parker has averaged 2.7. Parker also has shot better from the field than Marbury every single time.

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    You are retarded for considering those stats significant. First of all Steph is already 30 plus years old and he has only been in the play offs 4 times. Parker has been in the playoffs all 7 years he has played in the league.

    Second if you notice Steph has been putting those play off career numbers only in the first round where it is much easier to put points on the board. Tony has been playing in the late rounds in a consistent basis. It is much harder to keep those numbers in lets say the Western Conference Finals or NBA finals instead of First round playoffs (Eastern or Western for that matter).

    Tony has rings around his fingers and a Finals MVP to tell, Steph has his big mouth. Tony goes by handling himself with class and never did claim to the the best point guard in the league, EVER.

    Not to sound harsh but even though i am kinda in limbo about the Marbury situation i believe i speak on behalf of a lot of Knicks and basketball fans for that matter when i say that comparing Steph to Tony is just dumb and irrelevant.

    Need i remind you that even IF the Spurs try to sign him (I think me marrying Jessica Alba is more likely bound to happen before) he would be Parkers' back up.

    Enough with this sh!t, Steph is almost out of the door. You are Knicks fans not Marbury fans. Or am I kidding myself here?

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    Originally Posted by MSGKnickz33
    I do believe marburys a better individual player. Hes never been on as good of a team as parker has. You can say that parker is a better team player, but it can't be proven. Marbury never really played on that talented of a team.

    I dont consider parker to be that good of a one on one defender, and hes not the best playmaker. Marburys a better playmaker and one on one defender. Once again, its tough to say how good of a team defender marbury is because he hasnt played on a good enough team to answer that question for us.

    To conclude my opinion, I think you can make a case either way. Parker hasnt looked to good so far coming back from his injury, and as metro pointed out hes built to be injury prone the rest of his career. And hes playing along side a player thats considered by most to be the greatest power forward of all time. I believe that marburys better.



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    Originally Posted by SpursFan4Life
    Marbury averaged 3.5 Turnovers per game in his playoff experiences and Parker has averaged 2.7. Parker also has shot better from the field than Marbury every single time.
    Well lets take rajon rambo of the celtics for example. Hes shooting over 50%, because hes a good shooter? **** no. Because defenses have to double allen, pierce, and garnett. Rondos stats are alot better then they would be if he played on the knicks. Its the same way with Parker, he looks better then he is because hes playin alongside the greatest pf ever, and the 2nd or 3rd best sg in the game (ginobili).

    Originally Posted by th3realicon
    You are retarded for considering those stats significant. First of all Steph is already 30 plus years old and he has only been in the play offs 4 times. Parker has been in the playoffs all 7 years he has played in the league.

    Second if you notice Steph has been putting those play off career numbers only in the first round where it is much easier to put points up. Tony has been playing in the late rounds in a consistent basis. It is much harder to keep those numbers in lets say the Western Conference Finals or NBA finals instead of First round playoffs (Eastern or Western for that matter).

    Tony has rings around his fingers and an Finals MVP to tell, Steph has his big mouth. Tony goes by handling himself with class and never did claim to the the best point guard in the league, EVER.

    Not to sound harsh but even though i am kinda in limbo about the Marbury situation i believe i speak on behalf of a lot of Knicks and basketball fans for that matter when i say that comparing Steph to Tony is just dumbe and irrelevant.

    Need i remind you that even IF the Spurs try to sign him (I think me marrying Jessica Alba is more likely bound to happen before) he would be Parkers back up.

    Enough with this sh!t, Steph is almost out of the door. You are Knicks fans not Marbury fans. Or am I kidding myself here?
    When the spurs won the championship in 2003, parker averaged 14.7ppg, 3.5apg, and shot 40.3%

    Marbury might back him up at first, but i do believe that eventually he would work his way into the starting lineup. Marburys had his attitude problems in the past but hes ready to contribute and help a team go all the way. Hes shown that hes become more of a team player the past couple of years, when hes played like in 06-07 when he played his best. That was the year curry averaged 19.5ppg, playing alongside marbury. Currys hurt now but even if he was healthy, he wouldnt be playing. Hes a d leaguer.

    Every team marbury played on would have been less successful if you replace him with tony parker. Marburys a better scorer, passer, penetrater, and defender.

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    Originally Posted by th3realicon
    You are retarded for considering those stats significant. First of all Steph is already 30 plus years old and he has only been in the play offs 4 times. Parker has been in the playoffs all 7 years he has played in the league.

    Second if you notice Steph has been putting those play off career numbers only in the first round where it is much easier to put points on the board. Tony has been playing in the late rounds in a consistent basis. It is much harder to keep those numbers in lets say the Western Conference Finals or NBA finals instead of First round playoffs (Eastern or Western for that matter).

    Tony has rings around his fingers and a Finals MVP to tell, Steph has his big mouth. Tony goes by handling himself with class and never did claim to the the best point guard in the league, EVER.

    Not to sound harsh but even though i am kinda in limbo about the Marbury situation i believe i speak on behalf of a lot of Knicks and basketball fans for that matter when i say that comparing Steph to Tony is just dumb and irrelevant.

    Need i remind you that even IF the Spurs try to sign him (I think me marrying Jessica Alba is more likely bound to happen before) he would be Parkers' back up.

    Enough with this sh!t, Steph is almost out of the door. You are Knicks fans not Marbury fans. Or am I kidding myself here?
    FIRST PARAGRPH: stephon Marbury never had the luxary of being on a team as good as the spurs teams.

    SECOND PARAGRAPH: Please explain to me how scoring points is easier in the first round of the playoffs as opposed to the second or third?

    THIRD PARAGRAPH: Tony " never did claim to the best point guard in the league?" Did marbury ever " claim to the best point guard in the league?"

    4th: How is it dumb and irrelevant? It's a comparison of 2 top point guards that may be on the same team soon.

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    Originally Posted by GoKnIcKsDLEE42


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    Originally Posted by GoKnIcKsDLEE42
    FIRST PARAGRPH: stephon Marbury never had the luxary of being on a team as good as the spurs teams.

    SECOND PARAGRAPH: Please explain to me how scoring points is easier in the first round of the playoffs as opposed to the second or third?

    THIRD PARAGRAPH: Tony " never did claim to the best point guard in the league?" Did marbury ever " claim to the best point guard in the league?"

    4th: How is it dumb and irrelevant? It's a comparison of 2 top point guards that may be on the same team soon.
    good to see you back in action, your makin these herbs look mentally challenged

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    Originally Posted by MSGKnickz33
    When the spurs won the championship in 2003, parker averaged 14.7ppg, 3.5apg, and shot 40.3%
    So, you have to consider that he was a sophomore. His second year in the league and was playing a Team in NJ that had been pretty good defensively. Check his PPG year after year in the play offs:

    15,5
    14,7
    18.4
    17.2
    21.1
    20.8
    22.8

    That my friend is pure gold. He has been getting better year in and year out. Not only in ppg but pretty much all stats.

    Marbury might back him up at first, but i do believe that eventually he would work his way into the starting lineup. Marburys had his attitude problems in the past but hes ready to contribute and help a team go all the way.
    Contribute? Help? Those words do not belong on his dictionary. He is selfish and cares less about the team. The only season he did play slightly better was the season he actually spread the ball and did not shoot as much(2006) as he is accustomed to.

    Hes shown that hes become more of a team player the past couple of years, when hes played like in 06-07 when he played his best. That was the year curry averaged 19.5ppg, playing alongside marbury. Currys hurt now but even if he was healthy, he wouldnt be playing. Hes a d leaguer.
    So it took him 8 years on the league to become more of a team player? And stop even considering last season one of those years. He fought with all coaches he had. He even started a feud with his godfather Isiah Thomas ffs. Well Wilkens was not good enough for him. Brown was wronged because he was actually not being fair to Steph. Fine with that but how come even Isiah turned out to be wronging him? He had issues everywhere he played. Never put team first never will.

    Every team marbury played on would have been less successful if you replace him with tony parker. Marburys a better scorer, passer, penetrater, and defender.
    That is absolutely false. Somehow all the teams he leaves become better right after getting rid of him. It happened to Minny, it happened to the Suns and mark my words it will happen to us. Duhon is not as nearly as talented as him but as opposed to Marbury he makes his teammates better.

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    Originally Posted by th3realicon
    So, you have to consider that he was a sophomore. His second year in the league and was playing a Team in NJ that had been pretty good defensively. Check his PPG year after year in the play offs:

    15,5
    14,7
    18.4
    17.2
    21.1
    20.8
    22.8

    That my friend is pure gold. He has been getting better year in and year out. Not only in ppg but pretty much all stats.



    Contribute? Help? Those words do not belong on his dictionary. He is selfish and cares less about the team. The only season he did play slightly better was the season he actually spread the ball and did not shoot as much(2006) as he is accustomed to.



    So it took him 8 years on the league to become more of a team player? And stop even considering last season one of those years. He fought with all coaches he had. He even started a feud with his godfather Isiah Thomas ffs. Well Wilkens was not good enough for him. Brown was wronged because he was actually not being fair to Steph. Fine with that but how come even Isiah turned out to be wronging him? He had issues everywhere he played. Never put team first never will.



    That is absolutely false. Somehow all the teams he leaves become better right after getting rid of him. It happened to Minny, it happened to the Suns and mark my words it will happen to us. Duhon is not as nearly as talented as him but as opposed to Marbury he makes his teammates better.
    ill get at you tomorrow dunn

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    Contribute? Help? Those words do not belong on his dictionary. He is selfish and cares less about the team. The only season he did play slightly better was the season he actually spread the ball and did not shoot as much(2006) as he is accustomed to.
    That is true. That is also the last year marbury played a full NBA season...

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    Originally Posted by MSGKnickz33
    ill get at you tomorrow dunn
    word he can spit his bull**** tomorrow I'm watching vicki secret models on cbs

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    Originally Posted by th3realicon
    So, you have to consider that he was a sophomore. His second year in the league and was playing a Team in NJ that had been pretty good defensively. Check his PPG year after year in the play offs:

    15,5
    14,7
    18.4
    17.2
    21.1
    20.8
    22.8

    That my friend is pure gold. He has been getting better year in and year out. Not only in ppg but pretty much all stats.



    Contribute? Help? Those words do not belong on his dictionary. He is selfish and cares less about the team. The only season he did play slightly better was the season he actually spread the ball and did not shoot as much(2006) as he is accustomed to.



    So it took him 8 years on the league to become more of a team player? And stop even considering last season one of those years. He fought with all coaches he had. He even started a feud with his godfather Isiah Thomas ffs. Well Wilkens was not good enough for him. Brown was wronged because he was actually not being fair to Steph. Fine with that but how come even Isiah turned out to be wronging him? He had issues everywhere he played. Never put team first never will.



    That is absolutely false. Somehow all the teams he leaves become better right after getting rid of him. It happened to Minny, it happened to the Suns and mark my words it will happen to us. Duhon is not as nearly as talented as him but as opposed to Marbury he makes his teammates better.
    Thank you realicon for speaking the truth. I think steph is the man as a "baller". People love him because he's from NY and all that other ****. But as a "professional basketball player" he's garbage. F*ck the stats. He's proven year in and year out that its all about him. He aint gonna change. Not even God himself would be able to coach steph and not get into some **** with him. Everybody can back up steph all they want, its not gonna change the fact that he's not a team player who is all about himself.

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    Originally Posted by richtree
    If you were a true Knicks fan would would care...and follow him , Zach , and Crawford for the rest of their NBA careers
    I'll miss the winners and support the losers that are still here. I still like to see Randolph do well. Whether or not I do or don't doesn't place my fanaticism in the hands of your opinion

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    Originally Posted by knickzrulezH20
    ehh yea stats wise starbury has blown a lot of players out of the water, but im thinkin most guys wud take 3 rings, have tim duncan next to em, and be married 2 eva than average 20pts nd 8 asts per nite with no playoff wins. yea steph has neva had a championship team but steph had his chance 2 play with a hof big man (nd win some rings), but he decided he wanted 2 be the bigger man.
    yep. And has everyone forgotten who was the finals MVP 2 seasons ago?

    Tony P

    He was awesome.

    Not a fan, but if any GM active today was given the choice between Parker & Marbury, Parker's agent would get the VAST majority of the interested calls.

    I think if Metrocard was given the choice between a free trip to Tahiti with an all inclusive Tahitian orgy ( 1 man, the rest chocolate babes ) and a mouthful of Marbury's nuts and man juice, he would be swift in choosing the latter.

    Just a laugh, don't get snakey.

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    Originally Posted by GoKnIcKsDLEE42
    FIRST PARAGRPH: stephon Marbury never had the luxary of being on a team as good as the spurs teams.

    SECOND PARAGRAPH: Please explain to me how scoring points is easier in the first round of the playoffs as opposed to the second or third?

    THIRD PARAGRAPH: Tony " never did claim to the best point guard in the league?" Did marbury ever " claim to the best point guard in the league?"

    4th: How is it dumb and irrelevant? It's a comparison of 2 top point guards that may be on the same team soon.
    Yes, yes he did...And then J-Kidd came into the Garden and made him look silly.

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    Originally Posted by MSGKnickz33
    Marbury might back him up at first, but i do believe that eventually he would work his way into the starting lineup.
    LOL That is the funniest damn thing I've read in a long while.

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