View Poll Results: What is the state of racism, today?

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  • Racism, where?

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  • The Same as always, it just manifests itself in different ways.

    5 71.43%
  • People, especially the younger generation, no longer think in terms of race.

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Thread: Has Obama's election redeemed the US from its sordid past?

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    Originally Posted by OriginalKnickGrandson
    People like you are why we're still having this conversation about race in America, your an ignorant child. No matter your skin tone, nationality or financial situation you are no better than the man (or woman) standing next to you. I don't know about a lot of you on here but, I don't give a F--k where my Grandfather's Grandfather was from all I know is that I'm an AMERICAN.... I was born on American soil.... you? You can hold your culture close to your heart with-out hating on other people and their culture, just because you put your hate behind you dosen't make you any better at what ever race you are from. Because some of my ancestors are of Jewish decent should I hate on all German's? Sounds dumb dosen't it? Racism wherever its coming from is Hate and Hate never helped anyone.
    I'm better than you.
    "I"M AN AMERICAN"
    wow, that sounded extremely educated and detailed.
    You're simple, don't type too much you'll confuse yourself.
    You guys only think its proper and "ethical" to live with ignorant ass mentality that "I'M AN AMERICAN".

    The reality of my situation is that I have found the less achieving academically of all groups in the US; the Native Americans, they took their land away from them by force and were inflicted crimes of holocaust proportions, Blacks, they were taken from their countries by force and considered property and not humans and the Boricuas, their land was taken by force and made to live in a dependent colonial status longer that anybody else on earth.
    These violent and negative undertakings left all these three groups without a sense of self, a lack of national unity, a lack of self-determination, devoid of aspirations and low self-esteem.

    This situation has weighted them down heavily and it has isolated them from achieving the "American Dream", by turning universal values like work and education into "white values" so that they could be rationalized and rejected as enemies of their culture.

    Yeah, many people from these groups have been able to rise above their subservient condition and like others, have been able to achieve greatness and do great things for society, but the majority of these constituents lies dependent, frustrated and bitter and can't seem, to rise above their "en~angotamiento" condition.

    Poverty, drug and alcohol abuse, dysfunctional family life, crime victimization, lack of resources and recreation facilities, poor health, poorly educated, isolated from mainstream America, corruption at all levels of society, and many other social ills decimates their ranks and destroys their self-worth.

    You could always find people with your ignorant and simple mentality tell someone like me of my crazy/revolutionary thoughts: "go back to Taco Bell, Porko Ricko, Meheeko, or the Dominican Republican"

    ..a simple reply would just be
    "I will leave the "greatest nation on Earth" when the "greatest nation on Earth" decides it needs to leave Puerto Rico and Dominican Republic." But since the greatest nation on Earth doesn't want to leave us alone, then I have the right to be here and bug the hell out of those who keep wanting to sweep their misdeeds under the international rug. Lol.

    On some real **** though, thats all America is, majority white(that is decreasing) with an increasing minority population that has no real cultural identity or internal cohesion with this silly image America has painted of the blonde hair and blue eyed child. Thats why a lot of these minorities are here for one thing, $$$ to make the money they would of been making in their respected countries(if they weren't exploited so much by the United States).
    Just people looking for justice and following where their money was stolen.
    So F*CK this whole "I'm an American" bochinche...its garbage to me and will never mean a damn thing to me. I'm here to educate and support myself, the wife and my family(my community included).

    America is the land of opportunity because they stole all the opportunity from other 3rd world countries.

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    Originally Posted by Akamu


    Metrocard, your father brought you to this site in a positive light which turned out to be a complete discrepancy of posts, and now your jumping on my d!ck when you don't know a lick of what goes on. Another pin head waiting to be knocked over.

    Go suck some more on OG you moron, listen to this fool who makes garbage threads.

    The media says there's no more racism in America and you want to know what people think? If your dumb enough to believe that shyt or even consider what the "mainstream says" then you deserve to be talking to this low grade moron who doesn't have anything better to disscuss.

    This is a no shyt thread, another failure. You try way too hard, making a bunch of threads with polls that suck doesn't make you a better poster-

    Look, no cartoons or sexual commentary, whatsoever, required for me to prove these facts about you, as opposed to what you wrote about Kblack and me, because what I have to say is actually true.

    Just as was the case in my spitting thread, Mr. Staten Island, people actually care about this topic, enough so that some people have come here two or three times to post on the issue. In that spitting thread, ABCD posted, Tuner addict, datprince, and JJay44, regarding their frustration with what people have been doing in this real part of the city. Others posted on this thread, in the same vein.

    Now, I know you're averse to reality, as ANYONE can see, if they just go to the "archive of knowledge," where you've posted all of your nut videos, on 9/11 truth, etc., but this is actually real, something that's taking place. People are regularly saying that Obama's election to the presidency is evidence of an end to racism. You say that this is obviously false and that this thread is garbage for bringing up the issue, even though the poll on this thread indicates otherwise, the thread has been given five stars (I haven't rated it), and its author has been sent positive comments.

    Another point worth mentioning is that, contrary to your opinion, something that's wrong, but true, actually requires debate. Otherwise, people would just go around, for example, saying that racism was gone, with no regard for the truth, which they're doing anyway. But, for no one to actually speak up for the truth, fight for it, something which is rare to begin with, would be even more horrible than anything that's taking place right now, when it comes to first amendment issues.

    And sh!t, if we're going to allow you to spread your tin foil gospel, we better allow some room for discussing reality.
    Last edited by OGKnickfan; Dec 16, 2008 at 13:01.

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    Good job clown you win the dingle-berry award for figuring out for the 100th time that I'm from Staten Island, what's with the jealousy? I know you don't like where you live but damn it's really getting to you.

    How many times in a day do you look at my myspace? You know what I don't want to know keep that to yourself.

    The point is your threads usually suck and you always need to take shots at me because I demolished your persona, and you add polls because there's not much substance there you need something to try and make your garbage look credible.

    Who is stupid enough to just look at the TV screen and say "Racism is gone because Obama is president" and just follow that phrase without flexing a brain cell to question otherwise? ...oh..oh you? you did didn't you? Figured as much.

    What is there to debate about? unless your a child that doesn't know any better you need to be mentally misfortuned to even think about the answer to this stupid question you put out.

    More of your useless boring posts-

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    First of all, I don't even use myspace. You know you went into one of my threads and started running your mouth about an issue that you know you clearly don't know anything about, because you don't really live in the city. It's that simple, when it comes to you being from Staten Island: you just can't talk.

    Second of all, when it comes to the value of threads, entertainment is not what I value, so, if you find them boring, it makes no difference to me, and I'm sure it doesn't to those who read them, either.

    If we want sci-fi, we''ll visit your threads. I like the newest one, about how "they," whoever they is will conduct a secret meeting to take away our rights. Your 9/11 garbage is also hilarious, along with your Mexico stories.

    Face it, you're a whack a55 little hoe, with no life, and a poor grasp on the real critical issues out there, which is why you constantly come into my posts, talking ****. You don't like what's real, what's honest and pertinent. So, instead you come up with this BS.

    You might think you destroyed my "persona," whatever you mean by that, but I think everyone knows I'm right here, dropping knowledge. You, on the other hand, are taken as the paranoid joke that you are.

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    I was born in, went to school in, chill in, have a lot of family & friends in and work in the city, what is your point? I didn't give you information proving otherwise in my myspace. You deleted your myspace because I wouldn't add you, I don't add f@ggets to my myspace gtfo!

    Your a feeble minded school teacher with a weight problem, simple as that.

    I talk about critical things going on in reality that I can back up with proof while you talk about Jamal Crawford being a GOAT, stupid comments you herd and people spitting in your space, the only thing your good for is being the clown. Try to keep us entertained leave out that boring shyt and skip to the part where you ether yourself.

    Keep driving the ether wheel clown your still doing good!
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    Originally Posted by KBlack25
    I'm sure Akamu will be here within a few with his tin foil hat claiming all sorts of wild outrageous conspiracy theories based on tenuous, biased and limited evidence, about how Obama wasn't born in the United States or whatever.

    AMEN! I remember this bitch posting some videos about Obama being born in Africa or something. He's a sick puppy! This hoe gets no respect from me.

    Akuma, find that quote, where I call Jamal the greatest Knick of all time. SMH@a delusional, booty short-wearing male prostitute, by the name of akuma.

    Do US a favor, and f&ck off to your conspiracy threads. There is no us on this thread, when it comes to your argument, there's just you. So, please refrain from trying to ride any of the guys that have posted here. I don't think any of are gay.


    here's Akuma practicing his favorite moves from our favorite childhood fighting game: Street fighter.

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    Originally Posted by OGKnickfan
    Obviously, Blacks voted for Obama for a number of reasons: race is one of them; many Whites voted for Hillary, and later McCain, for the same reason. I don't believe, however, that Obama giving them, exclusively, a voice was one of the reasons Blacks voted for Obama, and I don't think that's what he wants to do. Most Black people believe he will be a good president for all Americans, something which they obviously have a real stake in.

    They voted for him because he was both Black, relatively young, and held many of their beliefs, which speaks to what Tuner said, about Blacks usually going democrat. Had a Black conservative been running for the democratic nomination, against Hillary, I believe most Black people would not have voted for him or her, because his or her ideas would have been contrary to most of theirs. The same would go for a general election between Hillary and, let's say, Alan Keyes.

    Either way, Black people can't, through the power of their votes alone, elect anyone to the presidency, which is what you seem to imply. Hispanics, in the southwestern states, who usually vote Republican, switched sides, despite many pundits stating that this group would never vote for a Black candidate for president. The same thing happened in a number of former "red" states, with the hick vote; and, in Florida, it also happened with the typically right-leaning Cuban vote. Obama actually has a huge mandate, because of the mosaic of people who voted for him, which is why many Republicans, in Congess, will likely have to support many of his policies.

    Obama beat Hillary because of sustantive reasons: he has a powerful intelllect, was able to stay humble, undivisive, when confronted with the most controversial issues, and was able to overcome the race issues that many Whites hold with people of other races, because most people saw something special in him, something more than just color. His words urged them to go beyond superficial details, regardless of what one thinks about the man.

    In addition, I find it ridiculous that you'e trying to turn racism, and its fruits, onto the group that has faced the most racism in recent history: Blacks (from all over the world). And, this is coming from a White person, someone who comes from the group that, for hundreds of years, has, as a people, dominated the rest of the world. Your argument is flawed, in a number of ways. All of the United States of America voted for Obama, on a landslide level. Live with it.
    This is why there is racism OG. You didnt actually say this but Whites are looked down upon because they are looked at from the perspective as slave owners/racist/kkk etc as if I agreed with the South during the Civil war!?!?! and as if I am racist towards blacks because of that history. that's whats ridiculous.

    And Obama was looked upon so highly that people flat out ignored ANYTHING bad about this guy. Especially the media. 9 to 1 favor.

    Racism affected this election and maybe its an opinion of how much it affected it, but it defeinetly had a big impact just because he was the first black candidate to really go this far.

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