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    Default "The Message"...influences of hip-hop/rap music

    Hip-hop/rap music has influenced millions of people throughout the years.

    Since its beginnings in the 70's, hip-hop music has evolved immensely. Going from music that was played to "move the crowd" to becoming more realistic and telling us "the wrongs and the rights". And of course, going back to party music in the last decade or so. But along the way it has instilled many values in all hip-hop/rap fans.
    Wether you learned "don't lick the ***** the first night, let her bless you..." Or help you remember your "Lost Ones" by playing Pete Rock and C.L. Smooth's "T.R.O.Y.", rap has been influential to each and every fan at one point or another.

    So, how has the music influenced y'all?

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    Ok I'll start it off...

    One thing that the music has influenced me in is to always go for yours and to become better than the last. You can't let petty things stop you from reaching your goals.

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    nice thread Sly....rap has tons of different ways of influencing people

    but me personally depends on my mood when you wanna get hyped up listen to Nas "One Mic" theres also the story songs " The Message"(two of my favorites) and Biggie, is the best flow and a great storyteller then theres Tupac(the best) and his influencing songs that make you see the reality of his music his music if very contradicting cause you'll have a song like "i get around" and then they'll be a song like "Keep your head up" but just shows the emotion he's going through and for that he cant be touched


    many forms of rap for different moods and thats what gets me hype of just chill and smoke one loll

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    Definitely, Prince. There's many types of songs for different types of moods.

    Guys like 2pac, biggie, nas, big L and many other great emcees strive(d) to make songs that would influence their listeners. A great example is Big L's "street struck". The guy tells you about all the bad things he's done but still says that its not worth it, that you're better off doing positive things.

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    rap hip hop w.e cant influence anyone now a days like really why get influence by rappers that idol actors(scarface) todays rap game is a joke and is just full of *****s full of them selves and all they talk about is drugs and girls...hip hop died years ago unless you listen to music from back then then yea but if todays music influences you in any way...you should take a better look at yourself

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    My favorite hip-hop/rap song is Juicy. That song is the American Dream. My English teacher even referenced the song while we were reading Death of a Salesman. I also like Run D.M.C. more of a fun loving style of hip hop. Now I just listen to Jay-Z and the Beastie Boys. Kingdom Come is one of my favorite rap albums. I love the Beastie Boys because my favorite music is classic rock and they are able to sample my favorite band and song (When the Levee Breaks-Led Zeppelin) in Rythm and Stealin'. I love the song An Open Letter To NYC. It's just and ode to both pre/post 9/11 New York.

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    Originally Posted by thekidd13
    rap hip hop w.e cant influence anyone now a days like really why get influence by rappers that idol actors(scarface) todays rap game is a joke and is just full of *****s full of them selves and all they talk about is drugs and girls...hip hop died years ago unless you listen to music from back then then yea but if todays music influences you in any way...you should take a better look at yourself
    I agree kidd...rap now and days is full of these hollywood guys that call themselves gangsta's and would get smoked by any old time rapper from the 90's.

    Imagine Biggie, Pac, or Big L for team one... facing 50 Cent, Lil Wayne and Soldierboy for team two.....all i can say is complete embarrassment for team number two.

    Rap now is never about everday life, struggles, or anything that relates to the average person which is why guys like 2Pac had such a big fan base. Also if you add the fact that he was one of the best rappers overall.

    Guys like Eminem, Nas, Snoop, Dre...should just sign some big name rappers to lead a whole new geration to return some real talent back in rap.

    Mos Def and Talib Kwelli are a good combo as well.

    The rappers that are still alive should recruit some real guys in here so I don't always HAVE to listen to old songs.

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    Kidd and Paul, I agree with what you guys are saying. Right now, rap is a mass produced product that is only good for dancing and partying. nobody new in the game has the balls(or the talent) to come out with an album that is influential or real.

    What's sad is that this is suppose to be our generations music, and just like Paul, I'm still listenning to music from back in the day when I was 10 y/o and under because to me its the only rap music that is great.

    You're right about that song, BigC. Notorious B.I.G.'S "juicy" is an influential song that talks about how he came from nothing and became somebody. It motivates you to achieve your goals.

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    Originally Posted by thekidd13
    rap hip hop w.e cant influence anyone now a days like really why get influence by rappers that idol actors(scarface) todays rap game is a joke and is just full of *****s full of them selves and all they talk about is drugs and girls...hip hop died years ago unless you listen to music from back then then yea but if todays music influences you in any way...you should take a better look at yourself
    i agree, what we listen to nowadays isn't rap it's bull**** form of rap that fake rap fans think is rap.....all that Lil wayne(since he started with the voice changing ****, and going completely commercial) and T-Pain Rick Ross Fat Joe's are killing what was once a great thing to listen to. people like tupac and biggie are legends for that reason they were special to listen to.....college poetry classes talk about tupac's work both poetry and rap just to show how much of an another level he was on.....i listen to more tupac and biggie then lil wayne, kanye west and t.i....biggie tupac, jay-z, nas those are real legends

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    "I wasn't POOR, I was PO, I couldn't afford the OR" - BIG L


    Big L would of been crazy nice today. Even back in the day he was calling out rappers who rapped stupid ****.


    Lack of knowledge is one of the reasons hip-hop/rap music is at this level. Kids nowadays don't know about the great mc's from before. When you mention NAS they only think about "hip-hop is dead" and not about "illmatic". If you ask a kid about Rakim, he'll tell you "isn't that a reggaton singer?" I also use to listen to rock about 6 to 8 years ago, and what I notice is that they use to play a lot of old school stuff, all day everyday. Something that hip-hop stations don't do. Even rappers talk about it, but they aint doing ****.


    Everyone should do what they can to save the music. Older cats should kick old school flavor in young *****s' ears.
    My lil bro (13 y/o) can recite nas' "it aint hard to tell" word by word. He could of easily been listening to this BS that's on the radio. Its about everyone doing what they can to let great music be heard. So that the newer generations can carry on tradition.

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    this is my all time favorite hip hop track


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    yo quiggle, who do you listen to?

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    Default Thought i wanted to mention this....

    Ok so i was on myspace reading this chick's survey bulletin, and i saw this:


    43.
    Favorite Song?
    any lil wayne or jonas brothers


    I literally just yelled out "ANTICHRIST!!!!" and now my parents think i'm like high or something.

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    Originally Posted by StreetDreams21
    Ok so i was on myspace reading this chick's survey bulletin, and i saw this:


    43.
    Favorite Song?
    any lil wayne or jonas brothers


    I literally just yelled out "ANTICHRIST!!!!" and now my parents think i'm like high or something.
    Lmao. That's how it is right now. People don't really stand for anything that is real. They go with the flow. Can't think for themselves.

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    Exclamation Big L Documentary coming out in 2009

    Anyone from the tri state area that knows Rap in the 90's should be familiar with Big L. He is probably one of the best MC's when it came to doing a freestyle or rap battle (202 wins and 0 loses). I have always wondered why a movie or documentary never came out about this guy that was on his way to be #1 before being gunned down in his hometown, Harlem at age 23.

    A DOCUMENTARY of Big L called "The Big L Story- Street Struck" is suppose to come out in 2009....Every MC in Rap right now should watch this and take notes.

    Documentary info in a blog- [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

    Big L's best known 7 minute freestyle with Jay Z-

    Big L in concert around 94' (not sure about the date) WATCH AT 3: 22 he freestyles out of no where- this dude could rock a crowd....

    Dirty beat with Big L laying it down...

    A rare 93" freestyle....

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