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    Default Harrington/Chandler is a lame 1-2 punch

    Probably worst 1-2 option in the NBA today.

    Honestly.
    Both guys shoot around the 40% range...1% from under 40% honestly.

    Gallinari is easily capable of producing more efficient numbers than Harrington if given the shot attempts. Harrington is easily replaced at the 3.

    At the 2, we need to drop Robinson.
    He's our 2 guard who's shooting 31% from the 3pt line and taking the 2nd most shots on the team. He's pretty lame, I prefer a guard with defense and 3pt range...that can play multiple positions, lets send Robinson to a team that needs a dynamic PG.

    Francisco Garcia

    for

    Nate Robinson

    STRAIGHT UP.

    Kings
    Robinson/Urdith
    Martin/Douby
    Salmons/Greene
    Thompson/Williams
    Hawes/Miller

    Knicks

    Duhon
    Garcia
    Gallinari
    Harrington
    Lee

    Garcia is a NYC kid with mad potential even though he's 27.
    In an up tempo system, he can easily do this everynight.



    Dude is a mix of Raja Bell/Boris Diaw with quickness and shot blocking. Perfect for this system, 15 ppg 5 rebs, 4 assist 1 blk per game 40% 3pt type production...great compliment for Duhon. This is a backcourt that would make it one of the best defensive backourts in the NBA.

    Whats next?

    We need to move Harrington for a more efficient 1st option.

    Al Harrington
    Wilson Chandler
    Q Richardson
    Jared Jefferies

    for

    Larry Hughes
    Joakim Noah
    Ben Gordon
    Lindsey Hunter
    Cedric Simmons

    Bulls
    Rose - 17-19 ppg
    Chandler - 15 ppg
    Deng - 16-19 ppg
    Harrington - 20 ppg
    Thomas - 10 ppg

    6th man
    Hinrich
    Gooden

    Reserves
    Richardson
    Jefferies
    Gray


    Stimulated/Projected stats)

    Knicks

    Duhon (13 ppg / 3.5 rpg / 8.9 asp / 1.3 spg / 43% FG 39% 3pt )
    Garcia (16 ppg / 4.9 rpg / 4.4 apg / 1.2 spg / 1.3 bpg / 44% FG 37% 3pt)
    Gallinari (18 ppg / 4.5 rpg / 3.8 apg / 1 spg / .8 bpg / 48% FG 39% 3pt)
    Lee (16 ppg / 12 rpg / 60%FG/80%FT)
    Noah (9 ppg/ 9 rpg / 1.5 bpg )

    6th man
    Gordon (20 ppg)

    Reserves
    Larry Hughes
    Tim Thomas
    Lindsey Hunter
    Cedric Simmons

    Waive
    Mailk Rose




    Final step is getting a center.

    Curry
    James
    2009 first round pick

    for

    Rasheed Wallace



    COMPLETED ROSTER READY FOR THE PLAYOFFS


    Uno - Duhon (11 ppg / 3.5 rpg / 8.9 asp / 1.3 spg / 43% FG 39% 3pt )
    Dos - Garcia (16 ppg / 4.9 rpg / 4.4 apg / 1.2 spg / 1.3 bpg / 44% FG 37% 3pt)
    Tres - Gallinari (18 ppg / 4.5 rpg / 3.8 apg / 1 spg / .8 bpg / 48% FG 39% 3pt)
    Cuatro - Lee (15 ppg / 12 rpg / 60%FG/80%FT)
    Cinco - Wallace (12 ppg/ 7.5 rpg / 1.9 bpg ); stretches the floor...perfectly compliment for Lee's inabilities

    6th man
    Gordon (20 ppg)

    Reserves
    Noah (back up big man, potential Rasheed replacement)
    Hughes (PG/SG combo guard vet)
    Tim Thomas (3pt specialist)

    Emergency backups
    Hunter
    Simmons



    Only if Walsh had my brain...

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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    Probably worst 1-2 option in the NBA today.

    Honestly.
    Both guys shoot around the 40% range...1% from under 40% honestly.

    Gallinari is easily capable of producing more efficient numbers than Harrington if given the shot attempts. Harrington is easily replaced at the 3.

    At the 2, we need to drop Robinson.
    He's our 2 guard who's shooting 31% from the 3pt line and taking the 2nd most shots on the team. He's pretty lame, I prefer a guard with defense and 3pt range...that can play multiple positions, lets send Robinson to a team that needs a dynamic PG.

    Francisco Garcia

    for

    Nate Robinson

    STRAIGHT UP.

    Kings
    Robinson/Urdith
    Martin/Douby
    Salmons/Greene
    Thompson/Williams
    Hawes/Miller

    Knicks

    Duhon
    Garcia
    Gallinari
    Harrington
    Lee

    Garcia is a NYC kid with mad potential even though he's 27.
    In an up tempo system, he can easily do this everynight.



    Dude is a mix of Raja Bell/Boris Diaw with quickness and shot blocking. Perfect for this system, 15 ppg 5 rebs, 4 assist 1 blk per game 40% 3pt type production...great compliment for Duhon. This is a backcourt that would make it one of the best defensive backourts in the NBA.

    Whats next?

    We need to move Harrington for a more efficient 1st option.

    Al Harrington
    Wilson Chandler
    Q Richardson
    Jared Jefferies

    for

    Larry Hughes
    Joakim Noah
    Ben Gordon
    Lindsey Hunter
    Cedric Simmons

    Bulls
    Rose - 17-19 ppg
    Chandler - 15 ppg
    Deng - 16-19 ppg
    Harrington - 20 ppg
    Thomas - 10 ppg

    6th man
    Hinrich
    Gooden

    Reserves
    Richardson
    Jefferies
    Gray


    Stimulated/Projected stats)

    Knicks

    Duhon (13 ppg / 3.5 rpg / 8.9 asp / 1.3 spg / 43% FG 39% 3pt )
    Garcia (16 ppg / 4.9 rpg / 4.4 apg / 1.2 spg / 1.3 bpg / 44% FG 37% 3pt)
    Gallinari (18 ppg / 4.5 rpg / 3.8 apg / 1 spg / .8 bpg / 48% FG 39% 3pt)
    Lee (16 ppg / 12 rpg / 60%FG/80%FT)
    Noah (9 ppg/ 9 rpg / 1.5 bpg )

    6th man
    Gordon (20 ppg)

    Reserves
    Larry Hughes
    Tim Thomas
    Lindsey Hunter
    Cedric Simmons

    Waive
    Mailk Rose




    Final step is getting a center.

    Curry
    James
    2009 first round pick

    for

    Rasheed Wallace



    COMPLETED ROSTER READY FOR THE PLAYOFFS


    Uno - Duhon (11 ppg / 3.5 rpg / 8.9 asp / 1.3 spg / 43% FG 39% 3pt )
    Dos - Garcia (16 ppg / 4.9 rpg / 4.4 apg / 1.2 spg / 1.3 bpg / 44% FG 37% 3pt)
    Tres - Gallinari (18 ppg / 4.5 rpg / 3.8 apg / 1 spg / .8 bpg / 48% FG 39% 3pt)
    Cuatro - Lee (15 ppg / 12 rpg / 60%FG/80%FT)
    Cinco - Wallace (12 ppg/ 7.5 rpg / 1.9 bpg ); stretches the floor...perfectly compliment for Lee's inabilities

    6th man
    Gordon (20 ppg)

    Reserves
    Noah (back up big man, potential Rasheed replacement)
    Hughes (PG/SG combo guard vet)
    Tim Thomas (3pt specialist)

    Emergency backups
    Hunter
    Simmons



    Only if Walsh had my brain...
    I'd do that nate trade in a heartbeat.nate is starting to get on my nerves.his intensity is equaled by his mistakes.

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    Why would we want Rasheed old as hell Wallace? This makes us older and slower and does not bring us closer to a title. We need to keep our young guns and be patient for 2010 when we will know what superstar to build around.

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    We are getting Wallace to get rid of Curry and James. Plus his contract ends before 2010. Who cares about our 2009 pick, the draft class isn't that great anyway. By getting rid of Curry we can get someone 100x better for 11 mil a year. Hell sign David Lee for 11 mil a year, a move I would be against, but still better then Curry.

    I love trading Robinson for Garcia. Garcia is underrated and he would do well in our system.

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    Originally Posted by TR1LL10N
    Why would we want Rasheed old as hell Wallace? This makes us older and slower and does not bring us closer to a title. We need to keep our young guns and be patient for 2010 when we will know what superstar to build around.
    Rasheed's basketball IQ and defense would automatically turn this team into a playoff contender.

    We are patient for 2010 fool.
    Sheed contract expires early, no need to worry.

    Why wait till 2010 to build? Thats foolish.
    Build a solid playoff TEAM now, so by 2010 the Knicks will have more value.

    Meaning.

    Playoff team
    > Lottery team.

    A superstar doesn't want to sign a long term deal with a lottery team.
    Thats a fact.


    Guys like Lebron and etc want to win.
    Not rebuild all over, they've been through that process with their previous teams.


    The smartest thing to do right is build a playoff team without taking any contracts that go over 2010.

    Simply, and its fact for the best of this franchise. The losing STOPS now.

    Take that loser Isiah mentality out of your mind and exit the thread until you realize the lose till 2010 plan isn't a smart plan.



    Thanks for replying, have a nice day.

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    Why so insulting metrocard? Everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

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    Originally Posted by Giants89FLY
    Why so insulting metrocard? Everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
    Don't bring that sensitive **** in here.

    I call everyone fool...nothing to cry about.
    You acted like I insulted him the whole post...way to take credit for me.
    Its kinda tiresome seeing lesser posters take shots at you when a nice crisp post was made...dude just straight up hate.
    This is ABOUT THE TEAM, I could care less about people's feelings over the computer.

    As for opinions...wtf man...too much crying...you could exist this thread too.



    Thats my opinion for you.

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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    Don't bring that sensitive **** in here.

    I call everyone fool...nothing to cry about.
    You acted like I insulted him the whole post...way to take credit for me.
    Its kinda tiresome seeing lesser posters take shots at you when a nice crisp post was made...dude just straight up hate.
    This is ABOUT THE TEAM, I could care less about people's feelings over the computer.

    As for opinions...wtf man...too much crying...you could exist this thread too.



    Thats my opinion for you.
    I'm not crying, I'm laughing at you. Very immature of you. You sound like a child. "A nice crisp post was made" hahaha quite possibly the gayest thing I have ever read in my life. retire that gif. you got too... When you put it in all your posts it loses its hilarity. Grow up. BTW, if you reply to me Mr. Tough guy, Save your awful imtimdation skills and also Save your insults for the kids... k? Thanks!

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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    Probably worst 1-2 option in the NBA today.

    Honestly.
    Both guys shoot around the 40% range...1% from under 40% honestly.

    ...
    It without a doubt is a bad 1-2 option but its not like its the team were building around its the temporary 1-2 option and i can live with that. If we saw anything from the Laker game, its that we need a star player and come 2010 we may very well have 2 star players.

    You are extremly creative with your trades and i respect the thought but were not basically going to trade our entire roster in the next month for what would maybe amount to a second round playoff exit. Not to mention nowadays how many 8 player deals do you see happen? Your proposed trades make us better but by the time this team learned to play with each other which would take awhile it would have cost us a few wins an dmost likely a playoff berth.

    I'm with you on the Nate Robinson for Garcia trade. But i'd also consider a John Salmons, Brad Miller for Nate and Curry/Jefferies deal. I haven't looked at the salaries so there may be some add ins necessary but the idea of getting an better shooting guard would be nice.

    All that said, this team right now is certainly flawed but they are fairly entertaining and competitive enough to get us through the next two years. And once those years are past the majority of the contracts are gone and we can truely become great.

    I'm with you that Gallo can deffinately be more efficent then Harrington but hes simply just not ready to log big minutes yet. And its not because of his IQ or his conditioning its because he's a foul machine who would be in foul troble every game. Come March maybe he'll be ready to have his minutes upped to 25 a night.

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    crawford, randolph>>>>>>>>>any 1,2 punch of knicks

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    Why would Det. trade Wallace for our 1st, Curry & James who go past 2010 knowing they are making room for the FA class? I do agree we need to build a winner sooner than later but other teams know how desperate we are and will try to rape us in a deal. Why would the Kings trade Garcia for N8 when they can sign him at the end of the year w/o giving up a player? And a trade w/ the Bulls is all but impossible.

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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    Rasheed's basketball IQ and defense would automatically turn this team into a playoff contender.

    We are patient for 2010 fool.
    Sheed contract expires early, no need to worry.

    Why wait till 2010 to build? Thats foolish.
    Build a solid playoff TEAM now, so by 2010 the Knicks will have more value.

    Meaning.

    Playoff team
    > Lottery team.

    A superstar doesn't want to sign a long term deal with a lottery team.
    Thats a fact.


    Guys like Lebron and etc want to win.
    Not rebuild all over, they've been through that process with their previous teams.


    The smartest thing to do right is build a playoff team without taking any contracts that go over 2010.

    Simply, and its fact for the best of this franchise. The losing STOPS now.

    Take that loser Isiah mentality out of your mind and exit the thread until you realize the lose till 2010 plan isn't a smart plan.



    Thanks for replying, have a nice day.
    First, I never said we had to lose until 2010. In case you did not notice we are in playoff contention right now with the squad we have. I know it's easier to put words in my mouth and argue with yourself but you aint fooling anyone.

    Second, lesser poster? You still on this ****? I guess when you have no real life you come to a forum to to create an alternate persona. Why you feel so inadequate that you have to insult others and cling to some poster status?Your like a middle aged guy with a small dick buying a Ferrari! Too bad all you can afford is the MTA and a free forum!

    Third, it makes sense to develop our youth increase their value and see whatplayer we can land to know what pieces are expendable.

    Fourth, all your moves are classic Isiah moves evidenced by you proposing trading away another draft pick even though we are in a playoff hunt.

    FYI you have Zero credibility as evidenced by your Duhon hating and Jockbury worship that months later has been proven top be wrong. Hate on me all you want, Ill pull a Duhon on you in your own thread!
    Last edited by TR1LL10N; Feb 04, 2009 at 13:09.

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    Walsh and D'Antoni have tried to condition us that losing is o.k. to take the pressure off themselves. They know we can't compete w/who we have. They also know we will start blaming them after a while. So they came up w this 2 yr plan to buy them time. Basically they made it ok to lose with hopes we will be better in 2yrs. I feel Walshs isn't concerned w/ us being competitive right now so he will NOT do anything else drastic unless it's a no brainer. Whoever takes Curry or Jeffries will def. want either our #1, Chandler or Lee and I bet the player being offered will not be a big improvement. If said player were being offered Walsh would've been did it. He and D'Antoni think they're playing with house money. So he's being super patient thinking we haven't won in years what's 2 more?

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    Originally Posted by datruth
    crawford, randolph>>>>>>>>>any 1,2 punch of knicks
    41% and 43% respectively...Pretty much the same thing as now...Except we get more Defense out of Al and Wil

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    What's with all the NYC natives you want to bring in?

    Haven't we learned from the likes of Marbury?

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