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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    Why was'nt coach Dantoni YELLING "Foul Roy" as soon as Roy started to dribble the ball???????
    wasn't Jefferies told that we had a foul to give with 4 seconds on the game clock???????


    I hate to say this but....Dantoni's coaching did not have anything to do with the 22-5 run on Portland, that was Nate being Nate who lead the Knicks on long runs throughout his Knick career.
    It was Herb Williams job to let Dantoni and the players know they had a foul to give in the final 4 seconds....it was Dantoni job to design a defensive play where 1 or 2 seconds come off the clock before the foul.

    This Knick Loss belongs to the Head Coach and his coaching-staff. <!-- google_ad_section_end -->
    And Kiyaman continues on his Dantoni hating and Nate loving spree....

    Too bad Dantoni is the reason for the Knicks improvement this year and Nate is one of the worst decision making guards in the game...Guy is on Crawful level...

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    Originally Posted by Red
    Partly, but if a player needs to be told the situation at this level then he sucks period.
    The coach did'nt know....so he must really SUCK as a coach.
    Dantoni two assistants on the bench was supposed to let everyone know that the Knicks had a foul to give in that time-out.
    No Knick Player knew they had a foul to give in the final 4 seconds.

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    we better win next game thats all i know losing streaks suck...

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    The coach did'nt know....so he must really SUCK as a coach.
    Dantoni two assistants on the bench was supposed to let everyone know that the Knicks had a foul to give in that time-out.
    No Knick Player knew they had a foul to give in the final 4 seconds.
    I agree. D'Antoni should have told the players that they had a foul to give. The Knicks gave it a big effort, though. They just don't have enough talent to win consistently. I think that's the main reason why they lost. They have a lot of good role players, and Harrington's probably a good 3rd option on a winning team, but they don't have anyone who can win a game down the stretch.

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    Originally Posted by TunerAddict
    And Kiyaman continues on his Dantoni hating and Nate loving spree....

    Too bad Dantoni is the reason for the Knicks improvement this year and Nate is one of the worst decision making guards in the game...Guy is on Crawful level...
    Did you watch the Lakers vs Cavs game....and listen to what JVG and Mark Jackson had to say about the Knicks?

    Being a life long Knick-Fan for over 40 years....it was not hard to see the Knicks had plenty of talented-players when Layden departed and when Isiah departed....but the team lack the discipline headcoach and coaching-staff to keep the Lockerroom from being divided for the last 5 seasons.
    This is why owner Dolan and Mills personally hired coach Larry Brown to bring discipline to the Knicks divided lockerroom of players.

    Coach Dantoni was given the privledge that only coach JVG was given....no other Knick coach after JVG had such priviledges not Chaney, not Wilkins, not Larry Brown, or Isiah whom had no discipline over his high contract players. They all refuse to pass the ball....Dantoni's system involves passing the ball....thats it.....Dantoni dont have a game plan or a winning playbook....he has been winning games on the strength of the Knick players creative talents by ridding the lockerroom of divided players.
    So dont get it twisted.
    Dantoni is a decent average offensive coach in the NBA....that needed a defensive coordinating coach in Phoenix....and after tonights game gets talked about by NBA commentators on ESPN, NBA TV, and TnT, if Dantoni dont get a good defensive coordinator on his coaching staff before 2010....super-stars looking for a Championship Ring will not be looking at signing with Dantoni's defenseless Knicks.

    I would have accepted Mark Jackson, Rick Carlise, or JVG over Dantoni for Isiah's players....as long as Isiah Thomas is FIRED.

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    Originally Posted by abcd
    I think the Knicks should trade Lee, too, because with his trade value, he could easily be used as a way to get rid of Eddy Curry and Jerome James. I still don't see Lee re-signing with the Knicks, after the year he's having. A contender is bound to offer him a large contract, so that's why I think the Knicks should trade him, while they could still get something out of it.

    It was a tough loss, but the Knicks played great. They did everything they could do to win, in my opinion.
    Trade off our best player that has helped us win the majority of the games...Yes thats what we should do.Instead of losing four in a row we will lose 10,15 or maybe more in a role.Why trade Lee that shows up EVERY NIGHT and keep all the other losers that does'nt show up but once every week.

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    Originally Posted by DaTPRiNCE
    we better win next game thats all i know losing streaks suck...
    Like I wrote earlier....the Knicks will have a 23-29 record next week (recall 23-59)....as long as Nate, Chandler, Gallo, and Tim Thomas come off the bench together. There is a strong chemistry brewing in that group of players.

    Next week is back to back games vs GS and Clippers which the Knicks dont have problems this season with back to back games with a 9-Man rotation....that 7-Man rotation killed us.
    Last edited by Kiyaman; Feb 08, 2009 at 23:13.

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    Originally Posted by SLY1984
    We definitely need that superstar, like some of you mentioned.
    I agree with you as far as winning championships or even going deep into the playoffs is concerned. But I think we could have won this game without a superstar. As I see it, the problem is that at some point in the fourth quarter one or the other player tries to be a superstar although they lack the skills and mental stability. They should just continue doing what they are doing: passing the ball and hitting open shots, instead of going one-on-one all of a sudden.
    Another thing that would have helped against Portland is a shut-down defender.

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    Originally Posted by WVKnickfan
    Trade off our best player that has helped us win the majority of the games...Yes thats what we should do.Instead of losing four in a row we will lose 10,15 or maybe more in a role.Why trade Lee that shows up EVERY NIGHT and keep all the other losers that does'nt show up but once every week.
    He said why in his post.

    You and DLeeFan42 are almost as bad as Team Starbury, prioritising your boy Lee over the rest of the Knicks. I'm not saying we should trade him, but abcd has a point.

    About tonights game, hell that was tough, was up til 3am watching... Never seen my own team beaten at the buzzer live

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    Originally Posted by pat
    Another thing that would have helped against Portland is a shut-down defender.
    thats why i thing joe johnson would be the best pick up in 2010. hes played for mike d and hes a good defender.

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    Originally Posted by NicksKnicks
    thats why i thing joe johnson would be the best pick up in 2010. hes played for mike d and hes a good defender.
    Maybe you are right but I was thinking of a cheap quick fix. Someone like James Posey.

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    I've been saying this for the longest: we need a big man, a real one: long, shot blocker, rebounder. We should have given everything to get Gasol. Did you guys see how he altered most of Lebron's layup attempts, yesterday?

    Anyway, when we didn't get Gasol, I was begging for Brook Lopez. If we had had Brook, last night, Roy gets stuffed, during his last second shot attempt.

    Also, as well as he played, Lee should have been a little tougher, instead of just moving out of Roy's way, for that last attempt. Literally, he just side stepped Roy's drive. I'm sure that, if he had stood his ground, he would have drawn a charge or have caused Roy to miss. SICK!

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    Originally Posted by OGKnickfan
    Also, as well as he played, Lee should have been a little tougher, instead of just moving out of Roy's way, for that last attempt. Literally, he just side stepped Roy's drive. I'm sure that, if he had stood his ground, he would have drawn a charge or have caused Roy to miss. SICK!


    or he could have fouled him and sent him to the line... u need to relax lee was avoiding the foul roy made a tough shot

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    Originally Posted by pat
    I agree with you as far as winning championships or even going deep into the playoffs is concerned. But I think we could have won this game without a superstar. As I see it, the problem is that at some point in the fourth quarter one or the other player tries to be a superstar although they lack the skills and mental stability. They should just continue doing what they are doing: passing the ball and hitting open shots, instead of going one-on-one all of a sudden.
    Another thing that would have helped against Portland is a shut-down defender.
    But see that's why we lost this game. No superstar to keep everyone focused. Superstars are the ones that know that we have a foul to give in the closing minutes. When the pressure builds average players start missing shots, as you saw in the game.

    Pat, aren't we concerned about winning a title? A game like this shows that we lack that guy to take over the last couple minutes.

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    [quote=SLY1984;83503]But see that's why we lost this game. No superstar to keep everyone focused. Superstars are the ones that know that we have a foul to give in the closing minutes. When the pressure builds average players start missing shots, as you saw in the game.
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    co-sign. we havnt had a real leader since to 90s. A superstar doesnt necessarily be a good leader. We need someone whos prepared to take the lead and play with some passion. I like D-Lee but saying 0-3 was a good week gives the Knicks a bad reputation. Arnt we supposed to be a team whos feared? right now we look like a bunch of kittens!

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