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    Default We Have To Trade David Lee.

    I'm not gonna lie;
    I've been flip flopping on this for some time,but god,his defense is awful.
    i really didn't think it was as awful as some people have said, but, it is.
    i don't understand how he doesn't use the same intensity on the defensive end as he does on rebounds.
    i think the ability is there, but he just doesn't do it.
    we need to sucker one of those top 5 lottery teams who can pay him, into trading for him with our first pick this year, for their first pick this year and some bum.maybe the clippers are dumb enough to make that trade.

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    The CLips dont need him.
    You're right, his defense is bad. But he is our only inside presence. He is young and is an automatic double double. That is very rare these days. He also hustles and has a good attitude. Maybe he can learn to play average D one day, but in my opinion you cant trade him. You need capable players on your team when 2010 come around. He would be a great piece to have play the post with Bron or Wade or Joe Johnson. If we got a real defensive center, like a Thabeet (prob wont happen), David's defeciencies on D would be masked by that center. Bottom line, i think you're shooting yourself if you trade David Lee.

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    It's not just his defense, but yeah you're right if he was paired with a quality D playing true C it wouldn't matter so much.

    The points that are floating round here for weeks now are:

    * If we aim for 2010, we have to shift Curry/Jefferies contracts to open up cap space.

    * Lee's contract expires this year and we are looking at 8-10 million to resign.

    * If we resign Lee and don't shift Curry/Jefferies we are cutting it fine on 2010, we won't resign Nate and we won't make much in the way of improvements to make a superstar want to play here.

    * No one wants Curry or Jefferies, to get rid of their contracts we have to package them with something valuable. Our most valuable asset is Lee.

    * If we don't trade Lee before the season is over, we risk someone offering him big money to sign with them. Then our choices are to let him go and get nothing in return except more cap space, or to resign him for more than we really want to pay.

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    For the right guy, I would trade him. In 2007, we could have gotten Gasol: shot blocker, great help d, scorer, post player, probably the best passing big, but the Knicks, like every other team, didn't want to offer anything: Isiah supposedly offered Malik Rose and Q for a guy that led the Griz to their only playoff appearances, ever. Imagine a Knick team with Gasol in the middle, Marbury and Craw in the backcourt and Z up front with Gasol, that would be a true contender.

    If we could get Brook Lopez, similarly skilled, I'd give up Nate and Lee. A real center, whom we could build around, would really make a difference and be worth it. He can block, post up and rebound. In last night's nets loss, he had 19 ppg, 12 rebounds and 1 block. I doubt the Nets would give this guy up, though. If you're watching the Nets play, you've seen how much they go this guy, on both ends.

    I know everyone loves Gallo, and he might turn out to be good (personally, I doubt it), but we really needed a center. It's very disappointing that, instead of Lopez, they get this kid who, arrogantly, demands to be drafted to a place of his choice. The ******* shouldn't have even put his name in the draft, since that was his attitude.

    I just want to know when we're going to get a real big man, which seems like a prerequisite to success, in the NBA. Phoenix has two, the Spurs have one, the Cavs have one, Boston does, etc., etc.

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    How about trade Herb Williams for a "Defensive Coordinator Coach"....what was the BIG COMPLAINT about coach Dantoni his last two seasons in Phoenix....what was Doc Rivers biggest complaint coaching the Orlando Magic and his first two season with Boston....they needed a "DEFENSIVE-COACH" in their staff.

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    I have thought about this and I agree its time to trade david Lee ....he is a replaceable player.....

    When I think of the Knicks in 2010 -- I don't mind having Al Harrington on the team but I think if we are going to win we need a legit big man and Lee is nothing more than the 3rd big man on a good team -- he is to a good team the way Ronnie Turiaf was to the Lakers last year,,,,,

    bottom line if we get something decent back for Lee or Lee is needed in a package deal .DO IT ......!!!!!!


    we could always get another player like Lee or if it isn't a sign and trade we could try to sign him again at seasons end


    lets go Knicks -

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    Originally Posted by richtree
    I have thought about this and I agree its time to trade david Lee ....he is a replaceable player.....

    When I think of the Knicks in 2010 -- I don't mind having Al Harrington on the team but I think if we are going to win we need a legit big man and Lee is nothing more than the 3rd big man on a good team -- he is to a good team the way Ronnie Turiaf was to the Lakers last year,,,,,

    bottom line if we get something decent back for Lee or Lee is needed in a package deal .DO IT ......!!!!!!


    we could always get another player like Lee or if it isn't a sign and trade we could try to sign him again at seasons end


    lets go Knicks -

    3rd big man on a good team? Ronnie Turiaf?
    Wow i think you're underating David here. I dont think he will ever be a 22 and 12 type of guy, but an 18 and 12 guy maybe even 20 and 12 for sure. He is a very good player, and importantly, a very efficient player, which is essential if you have a stud on your team like Bron or Wade who take 25 shots a game. You need a guy who is very productive with limited opportunities.
    You want to trade someone trade Al, he can score, but he is inconsistent. I'd keep him till his contract expires, but if we have to move him in order to move Curry or Jefferies' contract, i wouldnt mind. But David is a keeper.

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    Dlee is our best player and needs to stay a Knick. We need a true center...Dlee can't be expected to guard KG or Oden.

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    IMO Dlee will be a top 7 PF in this league for years to come. He is a double /double machine and will be the perfect compliment to a defensive center and allstar scorer like LBJ or Wade.

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    He's a double double machine on a team with NO interior whatsoever.

    On a contender, he'll be putting up 12-6 off the bench.

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    Originally Posted by Scribbles
    He's a double double machine on a team with NO interior whatsoever.

    On a contender, he'll be putting up 12-6 off the bench.
    Not to sound snarky...but how could you possibly know this? Why can't it be that he is just that good?

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    How do I know this?

    Look at who plays inside for the Knicks...

    D. LEE and Jared Jeffries

    He would not be getting those numbers if he was alongside Pau, or KG, or Dwight, etc.

    He's an Anderson Varejao next to a good center.

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    Originally Posted by Scribbles
    How do I know this?

    Look at who plays inside for the Knicks...

    D. LEE and Jared Jeffries

    He would not be getting those numbers if he was alongside Pau, or KG, or Dwight, etc.

    He's an Anderson Varejao next to a good center.
    Again it is impossible to know. Maybe him with a good center means that many more rebounds for the Knicks.

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    How about trade Herb Williams for a "Defensive Coordinator Coach"....what was the BIG COMPLAINT about coach Dantoni his last two seasons in Phoenix....what was Doc Rivers biggest complaint coaching the Orlando Magic and his first two season with Boston....they needed a "DEFENSIVE-COACH" in their staff.
    We can't do that. Who will be the designated "Clip Board Holder" guy?

    Herb's got the best gig in the world

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    it's not that i don't like the guy, but how is he that bad?
    it was the instances in which he was not guarding oden or garnett
    that i saw how horrible he was.
    he didn't even put up a fight.hit those mfers at least man!
    ****.

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