I never liked Chris Duhon like a lot of yall here. I gave him a little credit last year for doing an okay job, but his IQ doesn't live up to the starting role. As stated before, he is a backup and nothing more.
Rondo > Duhon...Rondo's IQ is at the starter level, his defensive and decisions are much better.
Even when he was playing at his best last year his biggest flaw was decision making. Yes he's predictable and is in love with the pick -n- roll to Lee.
Sometimes it works well but when a superior team steps on the court and eliminate's Duhon's most over used tactic he turns soft and starts shooting those 40ft 3 pointers. Not only does he result into shooting more 3's but he sacrifices range which lowers the chance for the shot to go down.
I can post at the minimum 20 clips of mind****ing decisions Duhon has gone with throughtout this season, some of which had to do with critcal plays which cost us games.
Here is what I am saying about your whole point, To wait until he is hurt and has a string of bad games and calling him out tying to show some insight is just plain stupid considering not too much was expected of him.
We signed Duhon for The MLE. MLE is typically going to be your sevicable type players. Would you really complain if we signed James Posey and he wasnt playing enough like Lebron James!
The Golden State Warriors are an uptempo team why don't they have a top 10 player in assist? The Utah Jazz don't play uptempo and Deron Williams is second in the league in assist. The Suns just started playing uptempo again but Nash is still averaging 10 ast a game for the whole season. My point is at some point you have to give Duhon some credit. Would he start anywhere else NO! But name me a better PG on our roster.
Duhon will in all actuality not be apart of our team in 2010. Really most Knick fans are like so what!Because most of us werent expecting much anyways. Stating he isnt that good is like saying Eddy Curry is in poor condition (and you called me Mr. Obvious, that really should be the title of this Thread!).
Lets be real here....if Duhon was replacing any other player, you'd probably not be so hard on him. And you'd be realistic about what to expect from him. But, because you see the world through the lenses of "I want Steph the starting PG of The Knicks forever" then you ride Duhon harder than neccessary. Steph is gone so GET THE HELL OVER IT OR BECOME A CELTIC FAN!
I'm gonna buy yall all little bracelts with "What would Steph Do" written on it sice you worship him so much.
Look I've told you plenty of times before you make creative signatures and are good at insults, that's what you do best.
You basketball knowledge is....how to put it best.... Average, So So, ok, luke warm...wait no need to be so nice, NON Existent!
Way to go out on a limb with this one Metro. We're getting what we should be getting from Duhon so your whole argument is pointless!
Thank You come Again!
Look at it like this:
When we get a high draft pick, hopefully a Center that can actually play D we can thank Duhon and Marbury!
Starbury supporters on this board are absolutely ridiculous. They refuse to admit that Duhon is a worthy starting PG on this team just because he was chosen over Marbs.
First let me say that when we first signed Du, I was like WTF are we thinking!?!! Check my post history.
But midway through the season, I saw a different player. I'm not speaking about his numbers neither. So metrocard, stop bringing up that bull**** that D'Antoni inflates his PGs stats.
Like someone else said, Duhon is a pass-first PG. That's exactly who we need on this team and this system.
Compare past years to this year...then there was almost no exceptional passes whatsoever. This year, the team is starting to swing the ball around. Everyone on the team is getting a piece of the crop.
Wilson Chandler, Chris Duhon, Nate Robinson, David Lee, Danillo. Everyone is getting to play TOGETHER.
That's attributed to Duhon setting the floor for his teammates and getting them involved.
And if we want to base it on that. Duhon is 1000X greater as a floor general than Marbury ever is or was.
That being said, check out this topic....
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Great post from Metrocard...and other posters need to stop puttin words in his mouth, I can vouch for what he said. From day one hes said that he preferred Lopez or DJ but he wouldnt be upset with the ****...and from day one, he didnt support the Duhon acquisition.
I cant believe to see their are Duhon supporters. Just put Starbury aside for a minute, Duhon? This guy is one of the most replaceable point guards in the game.
Duhon is 5th amongst pg's and sg's with 2.9 topg
Theres a long list of starting point guards that are better then Duhorn
I didnt even count some of the combo guards that I would take over Duhon. And lets not forget, Carlos Arroyo who would have been a much better investment then Duhon.
By the way, theres 28 names on that list....29 if you count Arroyo. None of those are a reach, every player on that list is better then Duhon and would be putting up stats in Mike D'antonis system.
Duhon is not fun to watch, he has no swag. Hes boring like the Detroit Pistons. Hes gotta be the most predictable player in the league.
You know what? I dont believe the Duhon supporters. They're just frontin, trying to hype him up because they dont like Swagabury.
Duhon could never be half the point guard Starbury is.
Close the thread.
MSG, what you fail to realize is that it's not being a Duhon supporter, it's being a Knicks supporter, period. Duhon has done what has been asked of him, he has exceeded expectations (see: abcd at the beginning of the season posting Duhon's stats to mock him, only to remove them when they became respectable).
I am a KNICKS fan, and as a KNICKS fan I support this team getting better. This team is better over last year, period. It's not about Marbury or Duhon or D'Antoni it's about the team that puts on the blue and orange every night. Marbury refused to do that this year, when asked. Marbury QUIT on ALL OF US, this report has just come out:
Stephon Marbury reportedly asked Knicks general manager Donnie Walsh if he could talk to the Celtics prior to training camp this season, an idea that the franchise didn't warm to at all.
Walsh had told Marbury it was possible he could be waived at that time, but definitely not a certainty. After the point guard asked for permission to speak with Boston, Walsh informed Marbury that he would report to training camp because team owner James Dolan reportedly didn't want him playing for a rival.
MARBURY never wanted to play for this team. He quit on me, he quit on everyone on this board, and everyone in NY, just like he quit on Mike D'Antoni in Phoenix (as D'Antoni has said).
MARBURY did not want to be here, when given the opportunity HE DID NOT PLAY, HE "PREFFERED" NOT TO! WHAT KIND OF "CHAMPION", "LEADER", "WARRIOR" OR SELF RESPECTING BASKETBALL PLAYER REFUSES TO PLAY BASKETBALL? He quit because he wanted to win for himself, he quit on Larry Brown, he quit on Isiah, and he quit on NY...how you continue to defend this man is beyond me.
What ppl don't get about he pass first aspect of a point guard, is that it isn't just him that it affects. It is the whole team. the PG is the floor leader. When he looks for his teammates before himself, he is setting that precendent to the rest of the team. He is having them follow by example. In turn, they look for their teammates more and become a more passing orientated, less selfish, more ball movement orientated team.
Duhon has done a great job, I give him a round of applause. Great signing
Marbury didnt quit on the team, the team quit on marbury.
If I know theres a chance im gonna get waived, im gonna wanna talk to other teams and have other things lined up. Your point of view is strongly biased on this, and not respectable.
Stop paying attention to the media and draw your own conclusions. Theres not really a whole lot I can say about your post, other then your wrong. He didnt even have a jersey in his locker when D'antoni asked him to play after Crawford and Z-bo were traded. Read between the lines. Your smarter then this.
Id like to put you in a head lock and give you a nuggie.
Every player that I listed would perform better in D'antoni's system then Duhon has. Thats all that matters doggie
Stop saying Marbury is selfish. Thats not true, he averages almost 8 assists for his career...which is impressive considering his time spent in New Jersey and with the Knicks, where he had very few players to pass to.
Duhon throws the ball away in clutch time once again. Knicks resort to this little pick and roll way too much..especially down the stretch like tonight...don't get me wrong Lee and Duhon have a nice thing goin, but they rely on it/ mess it up too much to go to it as much as they do..Lee got away with it at the end of the game with a few lucky plays to keep us in it, but it wasn't enough....
Duhon started the game so well too shooting. sad to see him finish so poorly. along with the others.
Starbury could retire for 5 years, come back and play blindfolded and still make better plays then Duhon.
i dont know what happen to duhon.
he started the season off so well but hes turned into as turnover machine as of late. his jump shot is erratic and he consistently tries to force feed the ball. he definitely isnt our answer at pg