Page 3 of 12 FirstFirst 123456789 ... LastLast
Results 31 to 45 of 174

Thread: Duhon = bad? No suprise here

  1. #31
    KnicksonLIN.com
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    New York
    Posts
    3,073
    Rep Power
    11

    Default

    Originally Posted by smokes
    If you have to try harder to make people read your post it's clearly not very good to begin with
    That was a good one.

    Oh, well. You got me on that one.

    Starbury supporters still make the world go round though.

    That's the first thing they teach you in Economics, BTW.

  2. #32
    The King Akamu's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    New York City
    Posts
    720
    Rep Power
    7

    Default

    I never liked Chris Duhon like a lot of yall here. I gave him a little credit last year for doing an okay job, but his IQ doesn't live up to the starting role. As stated before, he is a backup and nothing more.

    Rondo > Duhon...Rondo's IQ is at the starter level, his defensive and decisions are much better.

    Even when he was playing at his best last year his biggest flaw was decision making. Yes he's predictable and is in love with the pick -n- roll to Lee.

    Sometimes it works well but when a superior team steps on the court and eliminate's Duhon's most over used tactic he turns soft and starts shooting those 40ft 3 pointers. Not only does he result into shooting more 3's but he sacrifices range which lowers the chance for the shot to go down.

    I can post at the minimum 20 clips of mind****ing decisions Duhon has gone with throughtout this season, some of which had to do with critcal plays which cost us games.

  3. #33
    Quiet Storm New New York's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    2,431
    Rep Power
    15

    Default

    Originally Posted by metrocard
    I feel shattered being called corny by someone who's been corny since day one.

    You gotta be real about this.

    I've been talking bad about Duhon since the beginning.

    He's so bad he couldn't be traded?
    Thats really dumb to say.

    Bring up an argument here where he's so good, that he's better than most NBA point guards all over the sudden because he plays in an up tempo system that inflates his statistics.

    Duhon has been in the 30th-40th best overall point guard in the league most of his career...how all of a sudden he's become "good".

    How foolish have we become to believe this?

    This man never been good in career, even at Duke he didn't reach full potential, his ability and skill is limited to back up to third string PG service.

    ABCD, thanks.

    Its kinda lame when people try hard to reach for something and get proven foolish, but its nothing.

    I like all three, Gallinari, Lopez, and DJ. I told everyone from the beginning I prefered DJ or Lopez, and I wouldn't be mad with Gallinari, its that simple.

    Wow man, I know you feel "cool" making threads, keep up the swag.
    I said Gallinari is the point forward we needed, I still feel Augustin and Lopez can help this team since our weakest positions are PG and Center (Duhon should be a back up and Lee should be a PF).

    If I said "Gallinari is better than Lopez and DJ" then I must of been drunk or you must be desperate to get a rep right now.

    Eric Gordon now, that dude is overrated, just a straight up chucker. Great skilled athlete, but I couldn't stand having another Crawford.

    Man, you should get slapped for even insisting I'm a fair weather fan here.

    I've been the leading canidate on this site on calling Duhon out.

    F*ck the fact that people are making excuses now that he's playing too many minutes...he's not used to being used this much.

    Add conditioning to the things Chris Duhon is terrible at list.

    and you say Chris Duhon isn't an all star(thanks Mr. Obvious), but why try to hint he's close to it because once again; he has the LUXURY of playing in D'Antoni's system where 80% of the point guards in the NBA would easily post more efficient stats.

    We're still a NBA lottery team...nothing changed except the personnel and the system...and the overpopulation of C level players.

    We have no all stars on this roster, just a lot of scrubs and two gems in Robinson and Lee.

    the portable man, I completely agree.

    Not only Robinson is more talented and dynamic over Duhon...Robinson has developed a lot of skill as a PG and would be a better compliment to a combo guard like Hughes...similar to how Arenas was with Larry Hughes in the up tempo Wizards team that had success.


    I can't believe someone in this thread wanted Rafer Alton's 34% FG shooting on this team...as if it Isiah Thomas has drugged half of you people and took away your logic.

    Yo MSG...we gotta start putting these fools in check.

    Duhon is garbage, always been.

    Get over the whole "passed our expectations". FAIL, Duhon is what you expected, bad.
    Once again you show how sensative you are. It's like I can actually see you holding back tears when you respond to any crticism.

    Here is what I am saying about your whole point, To wait until he is hurt and has a string of bad games and calling him out tying to show some insight is just plain stupid considering not too much was expected of him.

    We signed Duhon for The MLE. MLE is typically going to be your sevicable type players. Would you really complain if we signed James Posey and he wasnt playing enough like Lebron James!

    The Golden State Warriors are an uptempo team why don't they have a top 10 player in assist? The Utah Jazz don't play uptempo and Deron Williams is second in the league in assist. The Suns just started playing uptempo again but Nash is still averaging 10 ast a game for the whole season. My point is at some point you have to give Duhon some credit. Would he start anywhere else NO! But name me a better PG on our roster.


    Duhon will in all actuality not be apart of our team in 2010. Really most Knick fans are like so what!Because most of us werent expecting much anyways. Stating he isnt that good is like saying Eddy Curry is in poor condition (and you called me Mr. Obvious, that really should be the title of this Thread!).

    Lets be real here....if Duhon was replacing any other player, you'd probably not be so hard on him. And you'd be realistic about what to expect from him. But, because you see the world through the lenses of "I want Steph the starting PG of The Knicks forever" then you ride Duhon harder than neccessary. Steph is gone so GET THE HELL OVER IT OR BECOME A CELTIC FAN!

    I'm gonna buy yall all little bracelts with "What would Steph Do" written on it sice you worship him so much.

    Look I've told you plenty of times before you make creative signatures and are good at insults, that's what you do best.

    You basketball knowledge is....how to put it best.... Average, So So, ok, luke warm...wait no need to be so nice, NON Existent!

    Way to go out on a limb with this one Metro. We're getting what we should be getting from Duhon so your whole argument is pointless!

    Thank You come Again!

  4. #34
    TYPE-A Red's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    NYC
    Posts
    2,308
    Rep Power
    15

    Default

    Look at it like this:

    When we get a high draft pick, hopefully a Center that can actually play D we can thank Duhon and Marbury!

    Good lookin

  5. #35
    Superstar Scribbles's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Posts
    607
    Rep Power
    7

    Default

    Starbury supporters on this board are absolutely ridiculous. They refuse to admit that Duhon is a worthy starting PG on this team just because he was chosen over Marbs.

    First let me say that when we first signed Du, I was like WTF are we thinking!?!! Check my post history.

    But midway through the season, I saw a different player. I'm not speaking about his numbers neither. So metrocard, stop bringing up that bull**** that D'Antoni inflates his PGs stats.

    Like someone else said, Duhon is a pass-first PG. That's exactly who we need on this team and this system.

    Compare past years to this year...then there was almost no exceptional passes whatsoever. This year, the team is starting to swing the ball around. Everyone on the team is getting a piece of the crop.

    Wilson Chandler, Chris Duhon, Nate Robinson, David Lee, Danillo. Everyone is getting to play TOGETHER.

    That's attributed to Duhon setting the floor for his teammates and getting them involved.

    And if we want to base it on that. Duhon is 1000X greater as a floor general than Marbury ever is or was.

    That being said, check out this topic....

    [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

  6. #36
    Veteran JayJ44's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Brooklyn
    Posts
    1,700
    Rep Power
    7

    Default

    Originally Posted by Scribbles
    Starbury supporters on this board are absolutely ridiculous. They refuse to admit that Duhon is a worthy starting PG on this team just because he was chosen over Marbs.

    First let me say that when we first signed Du, I was like WTF are we thinking!?!! Check my post history.

    But midway through the season, I saw a different player. I'm not speaking about his numbers neither. So metrocard, stop bringing up that bull**** that D'Antoni inflates his PGs stats.

    Like someone else said, Duhon is a pass-first PG. That's exactly who we need on this team and this system.

    Compare past years to this year...then there was almost no exceptional passes whatsoever. This year, the team is starting to swing the ball around. Everyone on the team is getting a piece of the crop.

    Wilson Chandler, Chris Duhon, Nate Robinson, David Lee, Danillo. Everyone is getting to play TOGETHER.

    That's attributed to Duhon setting the floor for his teammates and getting them involved.

    And if we want to base it on that. Duhon is 1000X greater as a floor general than Marbury ever is or was.

    That being said, check out this topic....

    [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
    Duhon has nothing to do with the whole team passing. That's D'antoni's philosophy, move the ball.

    He's a "pass first PG"? No, he just doesn't have a choice because he can't create his own shot.
    Last edited by JayJ44; Feb 28, 2009 at 18:54.

  7. #37
    The Gold Mac MSGKnickz33's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    CT
    Posts
    4,474
    Rep Power
    13

    Default

    Great post from Metrocard...and other posters need to stop puttin words in his mouth, I can vouch for what he said. From day one hes said that he preferred Lopez or DJ but he wouldnt be upset with the ****...and from day one, he didnt support the Duhon acquisition.

    I cant believe to see their are Duhon supporters. Just put Starbury aside for a minute, Duhon? This guy is one of the most replaceable point guards in the game.

    Duhon is 5th amongst pg's and sg's with 2.9 topg

    Theres a long list of starting point guards that are better then Duhorn

    CP3
    Deron Williams
    Billups
    Russell Westbrook
    Rajon Rambo
    Baron Davis
    Raymond Felton
    Devin Harris
    Iverson
    Derick Rose
    Tony Parker
    TJ Ford
    Andre Miller
    Jason Kidd
    Earl Watson
    Mario Chalmers
    Jameer Nelson
    Jose Calderon
    Kirk Hinrich
    Stephon Marbury
    Rafer Alston
    DJ Augustin
    Jason Terry
    Mike Bibby
    Ramon Sessions
    NATE ROBINSON
    Mike James
    Derick Fisher

    I didnt even count some of the combo guards that I would take over Duhon. And lets not forget, Carlos Arroyo who would have been a much better investment then Duhon.

    By the way, theres 28 names on that list....29 if you count Arroyo. None of those are a reach, every player on that list is better then Duhon and would be putting up stats in Mike D'antonis system.

    Duhon is not fun to watch, he has no swag. Hes boring like the Detroit Pistons. Hes gotta be the most predictable player in the league.

    You know what? I dont believe the Duhon supporters. They're just frontin, trying to hype him up because they dont like Swagabury.

    Duhon could never be half the point guard Starbury is.

    Close the thread.

  8. #38
    Veteran KBlack25's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    2,668
    Rep Power
    13

    Default

    MSG, what you fail to realize is that it's not being a Duhon supporter, it's being a Knicks supporter, period. Duhon has done what has been asked of him, he has exceeded expectations (see: abcd at the beginning of the season posting Duhon's stats to mock him, only to remove them when they became respectable).

    I am a KNICKS fan, and as a KNICKS fan I support this team getting better. This team is better over last year, period. It's not about Marbury or Duhon or D'Antoni it's about the team that puts on the blue and orange every night. Marbury refused to do that this year, when asked. Marbury QUIT on ALL OF US, this report has just come out:

    Stephon Marbury reportedly asked Knicks general manager Donnie Walsh if he could talk to the Celtics prior to training camp this season, an idea that the franchise didn't warm to at all.

    Walsh had told Marbury it was possible he could be waived at that time, but definitely not a certainty. After the point guard asked for permission to speak with Boston, Walsh informed Marbury that he would report to training camp because team owner James Dolan reportedly didn't want him playing for a rival.

    MARBURY never wanted to play for this team. He quit on me, he quit on everyone on this board, and everyone in NY, just like he quit on Mike D'Antoni in Phoenix (as D'Antoni has said).


    MARBURY did not want to be here, when given the opportunity HE DID NOT PLAY, HE "PREFFERED" NOT TO! WHAT KIND OF "CHAMPION", "LEADER", "WARRIOR" OR SELF RESPECTING BASKETBALL PLAYER REFUSES TO PLAY BASKETBALL? He quit because he wanted to win for himself, he quit on Larry Brown, he quit on Isiah, and he quit on NY...how you continue to defend this man is beyond me.

  9. #39
    Veteran TunerAddict's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    NY
    Posts
    2,183
    Rep Power
    9

    Default

    Originally Posted by MSGKnickz33
    CP3
    Deron Williams
    Billups
    Russell Westbrook
    Rajon Rambo
    Baron Davis
    Raymond Felton
    Devin Harris
    Iverson
    Derick Rose
    Tony Parker
    TJ Ford
    Andre Miller
    Jason Kidd
    Earl Watson
    Mario Chalmers
    Jameer Nelson
    Jose Calderon
    Kirk Hinrich
    Stephon Marbury
    Rafer Alston
    DJ Augustin
    Jason Terry
    Mike Bibby
    Ramon Sessions
    NATE ROBINSON
    Mike James
    Derick Fisher

    Bolded players that are not better, no pointguards, or are not starters, even though you said they were.

  10. #40
    Veteran TunerAddict's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    NY
    Posts
    2,183
    Rep Power
    9

    Default

    What ppl don't get about he pass first aspect of a point guard, is that it isn't just him that it affects. It is the whole team. the PG is the floor leader. When he looks for his teammates before himself, he is setting that precendent to the rest of the team. He is having them follow by example. In turn, they look for their teammates more and become a more passing orientated, less selfish, more ball movement orientated team.

  11. #41
    Veteran jpz17's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    New York
    Posts
    2,782
    Rep Power
    10

    Default

    Duhon has done a great job, I give him a round of applause. Great signing

  12. #42
    The Gold Mac MSGKnickz33's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    CT
    Posts
    4,474
    Rep Power
    13

    Default

    Originally Posted by KBlack25
    MSG, what you fail to realize is that it's not being a Duhon supporter, it's being a Knicks supporter, period. Duhon has done what has been asked of him, he has exceeded expectations (see: abcd at the beginning of the season posting Duhon's stats to mock him, only to remove them when they became respectable).

    I am a KNICKS fan, and as a KNICKS fan I support this team getting better. This team is better over last year, period. It's not about Marbury or Duhon or D'Antoni it's about the team that puts on the blue and orange every night. Marbury refused to do that this year, when asked. Marbury QUIT on ALL OF US, this report has just come out

    MARBURY never wanted to play for this team. He quit on me, he quit on everyone on this board, and everyone in NY, just like he quit on Mike D'Antoni in Phoenix (as D'Antoni has said).

    MARBURY did not want to be here, when given the opportunity HE DID NOT PLAY, HE "PREFFERED" NOT TO! WHAT KIND OF "CHAMPION", "LEADER", "WARRIOR" OR SELF RESPECTING BASKETBALL PLAYER REFUSES TO PLAY BASKETBALL? He quit because he wanted to win for himself, he quit on Larry Brown, he quit on Isiah, and he quit on NY...how you continue to defend this man is beyond me.
    Duhon has exceeded expectations? I would hope he would be able to average at least 12 and 8 in this system. Thats not really good, considering the way we play.

    Marbury didnt quit on the team, the team quit on marbury.

    If I know theres a chance im gonna get waived, im gonna wanna talk to other teams and have other things lined up. Your point of view is strongly biased on this, and not respectable.

    Stop paying attention to the media and draw your own conclusions. Theres not really a whole lot I can say about your post, other then your wrong. He didnt even have a jersey in his locker when D'antoni asked him to play after Crawford and Z-bo were traded. Read between the lines. Your smarter then this.

    Originally Posted by TunerAddict
    Bolded players that are not better, no pointguards, or are not starters, even though you said they were.
    So we got a wise guy, eh?

    Id like to put you in a head lock and give you a nuggie.

    Every player that I listed would perform better in D'antoni's system then Duhon has. Thats all that matters doggie

    Originally Posted by TunerAddict
    What ppl don't get about he pass first aspect of a point guard, is that it isn't just him that it affects. It is the whole team. the PG is the floor leader. When he looks for his teammates before himself, he is setting that precendent to the rest of the team. He is having them follow by example. In turn, they look for their teammates more and become a more passing orientated, less selfish, more ball movement orientated team.
    So whats wrong with a point guard that can score and pass? Chris Paul, Deron Williams, and Chauncy Billups are all point guards that can score 20 points and dish out 10 assists.

    Stop saying Marbury is selfish. Thats not true, he averages almost 8 assists for his career...which is impressive considering his time spent in New Jersey and with the Knicks, where he had very few players to pass to.

  13. #43
    Member Knicker23's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    CT 203
    Posts
    430
    Rep Power
    6

    Default

    Duhon throws the ball away in clutch time once again. Knicks resort to this little pick and roll way too much..especially down the stretch like tonight...don't get me wrong Lee and Duhon have a nice thing goin, but they rely on it/ mess it up too much to go to it as much as they do..Lee got away with it at the end of the game with a few lucky plays to keep us in it, but it wasn't enough....

    Duhon started the game so well too shooting. sad to see him finish so poorly. along with the others.

  14. #44
    The King Akamu's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    New York City
    Posts
    720
    Rep Power
    7

    Default

    Starbury could retire for 5 years, come back and play blindfolded and still make better plays then Duhon.

  15. #45
    Member goldenchild1688's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    201
    Rep Power
    6

    Default

    i dont know what happen to duhon.

    he started the season off so well but hes turned into as turnover machine as of late. his jump shot is erratic and he consistently tries to force feed the ball. he definitely isnt our answer at pg

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 16
    Last Post: Jan 29, 2009, 22:29
  2. Duhon Sits Out Practice
    By JayJ44 in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: Jan 19, 2009, 14:58
  3. Replies: 16
    Last Post: Nov 05, 2008, 13:19
  4. Suprise Suprise... Eddy Curry reportedly OUT OF SHAPE!
    By StEpHoN_mArBuRy in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: Sep 28, 2008, 08:46
  5. Knicks Get Duhon!!!!!!!!!!!!
    By knicklover in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 70
    Last Post: Jul 09, 2008, 18:45

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •