Damn player-centric usernames straight to hell.
Bro, leave the forum forever...stop spamming it with the same thing.
You've stated these things before and they've been easily shut down...its just time for you to move on, unless you want to come back with something new.
My post, MSG, and many others + this article ****s on your repetitive material thats really weak.
We came at every angles with a heavy argument that can't be put down simply because of the cold hard facts...not even no bias here.
No one cares if you bought a Steph jersey...your post are a broken record no one wants to listen to.
GetReal...you need to stop crying.
You seem to get more thrill out of posting a rant or complain in a thread you supposedly don't "like" or feel like you shouldn't post in, but yet you still take the time to leave your dirty 2 cents and tell everyone to stfu and lock the thread.
Thats lame, boss.
Do you see me replying to threads I have very little interest in?
If you don't care about it so much, then just MOVE on(yourself, don't contradict your words like that)...no one is forcing you to reply or click to read the thread...you know what its going to be about, why take all the effort to get into it when you say you don't want to be apart of it? You obviously see a lot of fun in the whole Marbury stuff.
BTW, this is an article on Knicks history in the past 5 years...not the NBA or the Celtics, so try again. Theres no reason to move this thread.
Appreciate a damn good article.
Bottom line, Steph was asked to play, asked to do what he was under contract to do, asked to do what everyone in the NBA thought he wanted to do (play basketball) and he didn't. Your analogy is not analogous at all. A better analogy would be: You work for a place, you've had arguments very publicly with your last 2 bosses. A new boss comes in who you already don't really get along with from where you used to work. He tells you that there are 15 people on the payroll, but only room for 12 to work. They will pay you to stay home and not do anything. Some of those 12 leave, they ask you to help out. They ask you to help out because you have been very public about being upset that you aren't getting a chance to work. Then you refuse to work. Who is wrong in THAT scenario? A little bit of blame to both parties. It's on D'Antoni for mismanaging, but it's also on Steph for not playing. I don't care who you are, how much money you make. There are other guys on the roster that are listed as reserves. That's what happens in basketball, some guys are the reserves. Just because his name is Stephon Marbury doesn't make him any more than just a player. Do you think some scrub, #15 on a roster somewhere else in the NBA, would refuse to play if given the chance? Hell no. But that's what Steph did. He was last on the roster by coach's determination, it had to be somebody and it happened to be Steph. Steph could not handle taking this reduced role. Steph only got attention for being #15 because of his name and salary. Random players on other teams don't make the news for being #15 on a roster. To me, I look at him not as Stephon, not as a former all-star. I look at him as another player who was on the roster. And just like ANY OTHER PLAYER, Steph was susceptible to being put at the end of the list. He was put there, and that's that. Where I come from, the player doesn't get to say when he plays. A coach makes that determination, that's why you hire a coach in the first place. Steph is JUST a player, and if held at an equal standard to everyone else around him, he should be just as likely to be the last guy off the bench as another. We aren't talking about a Kobe or a LeBron here.
I'm not saying D'Antoni is totally innocent, but I am saying that Steph is at least somewhat at fault. MY point with the merchandise was not necessarily about putting money into Steph's pockets. I know he put out a cheap shoe, it was a great thing for him to do. But the fact is I spent my time and money cheering and supporting this guy, and then he has the nerve to (a) leave the team high and dry last year and (b) leave the team high and dry this year. THAT I can't accept. If you can look past it, good for you.
And metro, blast my arguments all you want, but nobody has shot down anything I've said. Why? Because it's a ****ING OPINION. By definition opinions can not be wrong. Read a ****ing book.
Last edited by KBlack25; Mar 03, 2009 at 10:08.
They're wrong as sin.
Thread renamed: The incredible incompetence of the Knicks Front Office.Steph for 20mil is too much. F*uck his personality and on/off court sh*t. Business wise - another poor decision. Top 3 in salary...SMH.!
Metro -- good post....
Many people that think they know about Steph are just
regurgitating what the media outputs...
Many people don't want to take the time to listen and admit maybe he isn't such a bad guy because then they don't have anyone to blame....
Funny how Duhon, Crawford, Curry, Q-Rich, Jefferies, J. James, Franics, are all players that no NBA team wants or would ever consider a "Winner"
Look how quickly Mikey D moved his boy Q to the bench when an out of shape Hughes came over...
Marbury is a tremdous talent, that was seeing is character, the franchise he loved, and management all go done the toliet and he took it in stride...
He willingly took the blame for Fred Weis, Larry Brown, Jim Dolan, Isiah, and in return all he wanted was to win...
Then Mikey D pulled the rug out because he couldn't rebuild with a personality on the team bigger than his own..
Its like the Hawks trading Wilkins when they were in first place for Danny Manning and saying "Wilkins is the face of the organization" ha!
Marbury carries the weight on Coney Island on his shoulders and I don't think many people understand how different life is here in the NYC area
If Steph re-signs with the Celtics there will be Green #8 jersey's all over NYC probably more than any of the Knicks
Funny how AI has been 2 x's as bad off the court paid more money of his career than Marbury basically hated every where he goes, chucking shots for another team next year (still not passing or winning) but since he's not from NYC nobody cares...
Marbury is the scapegoat for NYC and was willing to carry the load for those years just to get a shot at winning in MSG...
Now he is in Boston -- and I'm going to root for him to win a title as long as the Celtics aren't playing the Knicks
If you can't root for Marbury to win a title -- you were never a Knicks fan, never a true NYC baller, and your justifing James Dolan mis-management for all those years...
Remember when Ewing was a Sonic and you cheered him on
Since Allan Houton to Donnie Walsh the only good thing we had in the middle was Steph Marbury
I'm not rooting for Marbury to win a championship, but not because I'm not a "true Knicks fan". In fact, I'm more of a Knicks fan because I root only for the blue and orange. If you aren't wearing a Knicks jersey, I'm not rooting for you. If that makes me not a "true" Knicks fan, then so be it.
Sometimes people forget how down Knicks fan were on Ewing
I am in NO WAY comparing the 2 , lets make that clear !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If the Knicks are out of the Playoffs -- why not root for Steph --
Who knows maybe Rondo gets hurts and Steph has bigger role ?
you can't say that you won't root for one team or another -- every time you watch any game -- you root for someone
I'm from the Bronx and ball every week when its nice. I'm one of the biggest Knick fan there is and I am will never justify a damn thing Dolan did.
But your saying that because I'm not going to root for Stephon to win a ring with Boston, everything I just stated gets take away??
Bro- Don't get into journalism or law. That argument sounds like it came from a retarted child.
NYC doesn't give a fuk about marbury. Maybe coney island, but don't speak for my city. NYC cares about their own damn selves and watching a good product in our sports teams.
I was speaking about the city and the metro area.....
Starks you really don't think the city cares about Marbury you are wrong...
Every kid in New York, and yes even some Jersey, wanted to be Marbury and followed him from his High School days....
They rooted for him as a T'wolf, Sun, Net, Knick and will as a Celtic...
because he was hope for all kids out there ballin' in the city --
Your speaking of "product" -- no real Knicks fan thinks of their team as a "product"
that just shows your heart is in the wrong place
The Knicks aren't a product -- they are much , much more than that
and me being from Jersey is no agruement - I am closer to the Garden than you are fool
I root for the Knicks. I root against Boston because I hate the Celtics, I don't care if they have Patrick Ewing, Charles Oakley and every great former Knick ever. The jersey reads "Celtics", I don't root for them.
I will always root for Stephon "Starchild" "Starbury" Marbury. Good luck to Starbury in Boston. He could have really helped the Knicks make the playoffs this season, but D'Antoni and Walsh were too blind to see that.