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    The Knicks belong in the WNBA.They couldn't beat a hungry group of females in a preseason tournament.It's surprising that this team hasn't had a season in which they went 0-82.I never seen a team that took so much pleasure in losing the way the knicks have.Do they go home and have fantasies about being manhandled by the other 29 teams in the league? They are better than Viagra when it comes to enhancing the performance of their opponent.I would trade the entire team for a box of fig newtons.

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    Originally Posted by johnstarky
    The Knicks belong in the WNBA.They couldn't beat a hungry group of females in a preseason tournament.It's surprising that this team hasn't had a season in which they went 0-82.I never seen a team that took so much pleasure in losing the way the knicks have.Do they go home and have fantasies about being manhandled by the other 29 teams in the league? They are better than Viagra when it comes to enhancing the performance of their opponent.I would trade the entire team for a box of fig newtons.

    ^^^LMAO!!!!
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    Originally Posted by TunerAddict
    The two games since Gallo has gone out we've gotten owned...Team morale is at an all-time low.

    WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Originally Posted by JayJ44
    wtf? I come in and turn on the tv in the middle of the 4th, and i did a ****in triple take at the score. tank this ****. at this point let's play for Rubio or Griffin.
    Rubio is overrated. Anyone who saw the Olympics knows that to be the case: he actually cost Spain the gold medal, because he was nowhere near as good as Jose Calderon. As for Griffin, I don't know who that is. If he's tall, can rebound, block and score in the post, and has a high basketball IQ, then pull the trigger.

    We've had talent, as RED stated on his checklist, all we have really needed is a real center. Just look at what Hawes did to us, last night. Bottom line, WE NEED A CENTER!

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    larry hughes would look bad even in the WNBA. ****, he could lay over here in england and still look bad!

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    Embarrassing when our team gets blowed-out at Home....twice in a row....by two teams under a .450 record.

    I guess now u guys are finally witnessing what Larry Hughes brings to the Knicks....gettin blownout at home (we traded 3-DNP players for 1-DNP player)....our coach did not see this after Hughes 3rd game as a Knick???

    As soon as Dantoni gave Larry Hughes 36 minutes of playingtime (his 3rd game as a Knick)....I screamed "TANKING"!!!
    but no one listened.
    I think Gallo listen b/c he wasted no time catching the next flight to Italy.
    "seeya, call me long-distance when u got it together".

    When the Knicks win its Dantoni system....when the Knicks lose its the players....

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    Originally Posted by OGKnickfan
    Rubio is overrated. Anyone who saw the Olympics knows that to be the case: he actually cost Spain the gold medal, because he was nowhere near as good as Jose Calderon. As for Griffin, I don't know who that is. If he's tall, can rebound, block and score in the post, and has a high basketball IQ, then pull the trigger.

    We've had talent, as RED stated on his checklist, all we have really needed is a real center. Just look at what Hawes did to us, last night. Bottom line, WE NEED A CENTER!
    Ricky can actually play defense, unlike Jose.
    Only thing Jose is better at is shooting...Rubio will be an elite passer.

    We need a superstar first.
    then get some true position players(PG/C)

    Then we'll be set.

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    Originally Posted by OGKnickfan
    Rubio is overrated. Anyone who saw the Olympics knows that to be the case: he actually cost Spain the gold medal, because he was nowhere near as good as Jose Calderon. As for Griffin, I don't know who that is. If he's tall, can rebound, block and score in the post, and has a high basketball IQ, then pull the trigger.

    We've had talent, as RED stated on his checklist, all we have really needed is a real center. Just look at what Hawes did to us, last night. Bottom line, WE NEED A CENTER!
    I don't think you can judge him soley from his performance in the Olympics. He was 18 or 19 years old playing against guys like Kobe, Lebron, CP3, etc.

    Rubio>>>>>>>>Calderon. Rubio won defensive player of the year in euroleague, and has Steve Nash like court vision. He would be the perfect PG to run this offense. Unfortunately, he'll probably go top 5.

    Blake Griffin out of Oklahoma. Your description pretty much sums him up, but he's going to get drafted 1st overall most likely.

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    Originally Posted by the portable man
    knicks need old man dantoni to hype them up

    yo mike... if u had to do it all over again, would u 'pig-out' and take the knicks $$$$, or stay in the desert for a few million $$$ less ???

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    Originally Posted by JayJ44
    I don't think you can judge him soley from his performance in the Olympics. He was 18 or 19 years old playing against guys like Kobe, Lebron, CP3, etc.

    Rubio>>>>>>>>Calderon
    . Rubio won defensive player of the year in euroleague, and has Steve Nash like court vision. He would be the perfect PG to run this offense. Unfortunately, he'll probably go top 5.

    Blake Griffin out of Oklahoma. Your description pretty much sums him up, but he's going to get drafted 1st overall most likely.


    Rady, you should seriously consider banning some of these circus folk that frequent this site.

    Look, JJ, Calderon is one of the best point guards in this league (the NBA), period: +18.42 EFF, 12.7 PPG, 49 FG%, 40 3P%, 8.6 Assists per game.
    His footspeed is unparalleled, by anyone except for maybe Tony Parker. And Rubio did not only play bad against the US Olympic team, he played bad throughout the Olympics and became a liability, in the gold medal game, turning the ball over, while trying to do trick dribbles.

    Here are Rubio's stats, from the Euroleague:

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    2.4
    </td> </tr><tr> <td> RPG
    2.4
    </td> </tr><tr> <td> APG
    2.8
    </td> </tr><tr> <td> FPG
    1.4
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    For previous years, look here:

    [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

    By the way, I have watched this guy in Euroleague competition, and, just like in the Olympics, he lacks jumping ability, is very slow, and just is not that good of a player. Bottom line: the guy's overrated and physically limited, regardless of age. As for Spanish league play, it's not Euroleague, which is where the best competition lies, so I'll stick with his Euroleague performance.

    Just like Gallo, he's much better in his local league than in the Euroleague competition, where he'd have to face the best teams. He'll be much worse in the NBA. Euroleague is overrated, the skills are just sub-par. In my opinion, the NCAA is of more quality. If Euro was so great, we'd take their players regularly, instead of them taking our 40 year old retirees.
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    For Olympics, look here:

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    Rubio in the Olympics: 4 PPG, 3 ASSISTS, 2 Turnovers, on 32% FG's


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    Originally Posted by OGKnickfan

    Here are Rubio's stats, from the Euroleague:

    <table id="ctl02_ctl00_PlayerStats_tblPlayerStats" class="PlayerStatsContainer" style="border-collapse: collapse;" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td>2008-2009
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    2.4
    </td> </tr><tr> <td> RPG
    2.4
    </td> </tr><tr> <td> APG
    2.8
    </td> </tr><tr> <td> FPG
    1.4
    </td></tr></tbody></table>

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    Originally Posted by OGKnickfan
    Rady, you should seriously consider banning some of these circus folk that frequent this site.

    Look, JJ, Calderon is one of the best point guards in this league (the NBA), period: +18.42 EFF, 12.7 PPG, 49 FG%, 40 3P%, 8.6 Assists per game.
    His footspeed is unparalleled, by anyone except for maybe Tony Parker. And Rubio did not only play bad against the US Olympic team, he played bad throughout the Olympics and became a liability, in the gold medal game, turning the ball over, while trying to do trick dribbles.

    Here are Rubio's stats, from the Euroleague:

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    STATS

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    2.4

    </TD></TR><TR><TD>RPG
    2.4

    </TD></TR><TR><TD>APG
    2.8

    </TD></TR><TR><TD>FPG
    1.4

    </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
    For previous years, look here:

    [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

    By the way, I have watched this guy in Euroleague competition, and, just like in the Olympics, he lacks jumping ability, is very slow, and just is not that good of a player. Bottom line: the guy's overrated and physically limited, regardless of age. As for Spanish league play, it's not Euroleague, which is where the best competition lies, so I'll stick with his Euroleague performance.

    Just like Gallo, he's much better in his local league than in the Euroleague competition, where he'd have to face the best teams. He'll be much worse in the NBA. Euroleague is overrated, the skills are just sub-par. In my opinion, the NCAA is of more quality. If Euro was so great, we'd take their players regularly, instead of them taking our 40 year old retirees.
    <TABLE class=PlayerAccumulatedAveragesStatistics id=tblPlayerPhaseStatistics cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR class=PlayerGridRow><TD class=PlayerTitleColumn>

    For Olympics, look here:

    [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

    Rubio in the Olympics: 4 PPG, 3 ASSISTS, 2 Turnovers, on 32% FG's



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    His stats this year mean nothing. He was injured, with I believe a wrist injury (could be wrong on that one) and as goknicks showed, only played in 5 games.

    You don't need a 40 inch vertical to be successful in this league. He's a highly skilled basketball player, with elite passing ability and court vision. His only weakness is his shooting, but that will come with time.

    Calderon's stats are nice. But how's his team doing lately?

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    Originally Posted by JayJ44
    His stats this year mean nothing. He was injured, with I believe a wrist injury (could be wrong on that one) and as goknicks showed, only played in 5 games.

    You don't need a 40 inch vertical to be successful in this league. He's a highly skilled basketball player, with elite passing ability and court vision. His only weakness is his shooting, but that will come with time.

    Calderon's stats are nice. But how's his team doing lately?
    I hear you in the first 2 paragraphs, but you cant doubt Calderon's ability

    That Raptors team just SUCKS. When calderon was down they had some dude named ukic back him up. Thhey have no great SG, and JO was constantly injured.

    Now im not standing up for them, but Calderon is an amazing player, i think he played better than Rubio in the Olympics. If he was on our team hed be averaging like 19 and 10.

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    Originally Posted by StreetDreams21
    I hear you in the first 2 paragraphs, but you cant doubt Calderon's ability

    That Raptors team just SUCKS. When calderon was down they had some dude named ukic back him up. Thhey have no great SG, and JO was constantly injured.

    Now im not standing up for them, but Calderon is an amazing player, i think he played better than Rubio in the Olympics. If he was on our team hed be averaging like 19 and 10.
    I agree, I like Calderon's game. He's a very good PG, and I wasn't blaming their record soley on him. But Rubio will be a superstar in this league. It's tough for a 19 year old to play well against the best players in the world on a world stage such as the Olympics.

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    Originally Posted by JayJ44
    I agree, I like Calderon's game. He's a very good PG. But Rubio will be a superstar in this league. It's tough for a 19 year old to play well against the best players in the world on a world stage such as the Olympics.
    Definitetly. sad thing is i believe he's still undecided in entering this draft...
    Last edited by StreetDreams21; Mar 22, 2009 at 22:51.

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