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    Lightbulb The Obama Deception (Released 03/15/09) (Important View) [Updated 03/26/09]

    We're already falling head first into the hole, and Obama isn't doing anything to dampen the fall, only everything his superiors wish.

    [Updated March, 26th, 2009]


    This film exposes Obama and explains the people who pull his strings as well as his surrounding anti-liberty cabinet-

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    Alex Jones on the Obama Deception:


    YouTube HQ FULL Film:


    Obama Deception PART 2 coming out July 4th (usually earlier then stated) Part 2 will go further into depth and what The Obama Administration/controllers have been doing in these recent months.
    Legislation He Signed and Passed:

    (_1_/-Signed Stimulus Bill (Taking more from tax payers & their children's children's future while also drawing the dollar closer to inflation)

    (_2_/-Authorization of FEMA camps Bill passed:




    (_3_/-National Service Bill...pending (Give Act) (Youth will be forced to serve which is unconstitutional):





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    -Is Sending 40,000 more troops to Afganistan and is considering to extend it to 400,000.

    There is more & more to come, I didn't even mention everything.



    Immortal Technique Telling it like it is:



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    I'm glad someone had the balls to post this, in a world that is so blindly pro-Obama. Where minorities identify with him because of the color of his skin and not his policies. I will preface my statements by saying I sit pretty far to the left and that I did vote for Obama.

    As someone on the left, I have felt isolated and left in the dust by Obama's presidency thus far. Everyone celebrated when Obama got into office, like their job was done. The fact is we as the American People MUST hold our leaders accountable for their actions. What made me upset is, I stood behind Obama because I felt him most capable to get us out of Iraq immediately. Then he announced that we would be in Iraq until at least 2011. This, to me, is unacceptable. I feel, as an American voter, and a Democrat Party Member, betrayed by Obama. He promised to get us out of this war that has claimed so many young lives, and stands to claim more, to get us out of this unjustified war, in a place we never should have been in in the first place. To end a war that was founded on lies and deception of the American Public. Fact is, we're in Iraq for much longer, even with Obama in office, than we ever should be.

    Then to further our efforts in Afghanistan is yet another flexing of our military muscle that is both uncalled for and unneccessary. Fact is terrorism exists in this world, the best we can do is arm ourselves for it. Smoking out Bin Laden from whatever bum**** cave he is hiding in won't end hatred of American policy, there will always be someone willing to blow themselves up to further a radical cause. It's a fact of life. I'll quote one of my favorite TV Shows ever, The Wire, when they talk about the War on Drugs, because it relates so well to our "War on Terror, "You can't call it a war...Wars end."

    I'm not saying we should QUIT the war on terror, but we should realize that if people are so desperate to prove a point they will blow themselve up, there's nothing we can do to truly prevent that. The best we can do is protect ourselves, but we also can't live our lives in fear. Fact is, this country is SO ****ed up, little kids starving worse than in 3rd World African countries, single mothers feeding their kids popcorn for dinner, drug addicts giving birth to babies in poverty, there's so much we need to fix here. I thought with Obama in office maybe we'd have someone who cared about OUR people more than some Iraqis, but I guess I was wrong.

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    George W. Spent 2 billion dollars a day on the war in Irak alone, Afganistan not included in that amount. Now we have to pay for that. He destroyed our economy while he filled his and his homies pockets, by making sure their companies got all government contracts to rebuild Irak. He went to war on lie and the congress bought it out of fear. GWB had smart people around him. They knew how affraid the Americans were after 9/11 and they played that fear card to get what they wanted. Obama was dealt a losing hand. It will take years to get this **** together.

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    Originally Posted by KBlack25
    I'm glad someone had the balls to post this, in a world that is so blindly pro-Obama. Where minorities identify with him because of the color of his skin and not his policies. I will preface my statements by saying I sit pretty far to the left and that I did vote for Obama.

    As someone on the left, I have felt isolated and left in the dust by Obama's presidency thus far. Everyone celebrated when Obama got into office, like their job was done. The fact is we as the American People MUST hold our leaders accountable for their actions. What made me upset is, I stood behind Obama because I felt him most capable to get us out of Iraq immediately. Then he announced that we would be in Iraq until at least 2011. This, to me, is unacceptable. I feel, as an American voter, and a Democrat Party Member, betrayed by Obama. He promised to get us out of this war that has claimed so many young lives, and stands to claim more, to get us out of this unjustified war, in a place we never should have been in in the first place. To end a war that was founded on lies and deception of the American Public. Fact is, we're in Iraq for much longer, even with Obama in office, than we ever should be.

    Then to further our efforts in Afghanistan is yet another flexing of our military muscle that is both uncalled for and unneccessary. Fact is terrorism exists in this world, the best we can do is arm ourselves for it. Smoking out Bin Laden from whatever bum**** cave he is hiding in won't end hatred of American policy, there will always be someone willing to blow themselves up to further a radical cause. It's a fact of life. I'll quote one of my favorite TV Shows ever, The Wire, when they talk about the War on Drugs, because it relates so well to our "War on Terror, "You can't call it a war...Wars end."

    I'm not saying we should QUIT the war on terror, but we should realize that if people are so desperate to prove a point they will blow themselve up, there's nothing we can do to truly prevent that. The best we can do is protect ourselves, but we also can't live our lives in fear. Fact is, this country is SO ****ed up, little kids starving worse than in 3rd World African countries, single mothers feeding their kids popcorn for dinner, drug addicts giving birth to babies in poverty, there's so much we need to fix here. I thought with Obama in office maybe we'd have someone who cared about OUR people more than some Iraqis, but I guess I was wrong.
    I thought your testimony as a betrayed democrat is interesting. I hope most demorats feel the way you do because your 100% right about Obama making promises he clearly can't keep.

    People did warn the public about this. many republicans explained during the Presidential race that it's clearly impossible to do what Obama is saying. He promised things left and right from 95% tax cuts to ending the Iraq War.

    Now that people are seeing Obama going through a spending frenzy.....the American public is going to hopefully investigate "change".

    We need change people.....yea like spending the most money any president has spent within his first months of office.

    Two stimulus bills that add up to over a trillion dollars with about 9,000 pork spending in each bill (that means useless spending).


    Think about it people.....Democrats voted to pass these bills without knowing anything about them or reading them.

    Obama finished the bill and then passed it a few days later....has anyone seen the size of this bill....it's like reading The Bible in a few days....no one accomplshied this so these bills are clearly a blind decision.

    Obama is going to have an apporval rating of 30% this year...

    He is going to be worse than Bush, sounds crazy at first...maybe....but look what Obama has already done in a matter of a couple weeks.

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    Originally Posted by Paul1355
    Obama finished the bill and then passed it a few days later....has anyone seen the size of this bill....it's like reading The Bible in a few days....no one accomplshied this so these bills are clearly a blind decision.
    The magic words here are "staff", "excerpt" and "outline" Easier said than done.

    We all saw what happened when Lehman brothers went bust. Unfortunately, the Bush government failed to save some money when they should have (in a prosperous period). This is exactly the money the USA should have kept to spend it now in a time of economic crisis.

    What is your alternative?

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    Originally Posted by pat
    The magic words here are "staff", "excerpt" and "outline" Easier said than done.

    We all saw what happened when Lehman brothers went bust. Unfortunately, the Bush government failed to save some money when they should have (in a prosperous period). This is exactly the money the USA should have kept to spend it now in a time of economic crisis.

    What is your alternative?
    Rather than give money to the companies, have the government cut that same check divided amongst every Tax Paying American citizen. HOWEVER, make it contingent on the fact that they use the said $ to pay off their mortgages and credit card debt. It'd work out to about 400K per person. That way, the housing companies, credit card companies and banks all get their money back. There would be significantly reduced debt for the American public. If, after you pay off your Mortgage and Credit Card debt, you have money to spend at the end, you can use it for whatever you like. This helps the economy by pumping more money back into the system.

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    But that doesn't give you the same kind of influence on banks. Bailing them out directly gives you a far better chance to righten what is wrong in the system. It gives you a moral basis to bring the financial market under a control system. Another problem with you plan is that this isn't an American crisis anymore. Since those derivatives (with expected interest earnings) have been resold again and again the amount of money due has been blown out of proportion as well. That is the main problem: the money was never really their. Therefore giving consumers the money to pay back their loans will only cover a fractional amount of money banks owe each other.

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    Originally Posted by pat
    The magic words here are "staff", "excerpt" and "outline" Easier said than done.

    We all saw what happened when Lehman brothers went bust. Unfortunately, the Bush government failed to save some money when they should have (in a prosperous period). This is exactly the money the USA should have kept to spend it now in a time of economic crisis.

    What is your alternative?
    So your basically blaming Bush for everything again and saying that the only alternative is to spend over a trillion dollars in two bills that no one even knows the specifics about???

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    I watched this film, and I saw the part about the meetings at hotels, etc. But, I didn't see any evidence, other than the words of the conspiracy people, proving the claims made, about Obama being a puppet for "NWO." I also didn't understand what it was all about, it jumped from... oil prices to secret meetings. The Hispanic guy who claimed that oil prices would go up until the NWO could take power said that when the film was made, during the oil crisis, a crisis which subsequently ended.

    I do agree that secret meetings are unfair, and that's an issue that needs to be addressed. Obviously, the president is going to be advised by people, especially the powerful and connected. It's always existed. I don't see how you can easily get around it. Maybe some sort of direct democracy would solve that, but that's something that raises other problems, because sometimes the majority would seek to violate the rights of others: majority opinion doesn't make the opinion made the right one.

    Anyway, there's just not that much here.

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    Originally Posted by KBlack25
    Small business owners will have less debt and will be more likely to take on new employees (creating jobs), and the businesses will do well because people are going to spend more.
    Wasn't overspending the biggest problem in the first place (and still is)? Remortgage your house to buy a new flat screen TV? This is exactly how the American gross national product was artificially bloated. And why? Because economic growth is the golden calf of this type of economy. Global resources are limited, population growth has become a real problem, however we still try to generate more growth. Even though we should focus on a new, more sustainable form of market based economy. Economic principles are no laws of physics. They are man made and can be changed. A first step would be: people only spend what they really have. Otherwise the next bubble is going to burst soon.

    Originally Posted by Paul1355
    So your basically blaming Bush for everything again and saying that the only alternative is to spend over a trillion dollars in two bills that no one even knows the specifics about???
    Well not him personally, but you'd definitely have to walk around blindfolded to miss that,
    ... it is every governments obligation to save money in prosperous times, something the Bush administration failed to do.
    ... the Bush administrations laissez faire policies concerning the financial markets have led to financial products that are non-transparent and now turn out to be mere Ponzi schemes. With some form of financial market supervision, a lot of this would not have been possible.
    ... the first shock waves of this crisis could already be felt in summer 2007.

    So yeah, Obama being in office a mere 70 days now and this crisis has been going on for at least 1 1/2 years now, reaching its peak (let us hope so) last autumn, I would definitely say that the Bush administration isn't exactly what I would call innocent.

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    Originally Posted by Akamu
    Signed Stimulus Bill (Taking more from tax payers & their children's children's future while also drawing the dollar closer to inflation)
    Do you have any idea what to do? It wasn't Obama who sold those sub-prime mortgages. But greedy brokers. All major pension funds -- not only in the US but world wide -- invested in those derivatives. If you let AIG go bankrupt, the insurances that protect those pension funds will vanish into thin air. This would mean an absolute catastrophe for current and future pensioners. OF course I hate to see those ridiculous bonuses just as much as the next man, but from a regulative point of view taxing those bonuses is a delicate matter, to say the least.

    However I have the feeling that president Obama has the awareness that there are situations -- and we seem to be in such a situation right now -- in which you can only do wrong, both by acting and by not acting. Still I have the impression that the moral imperative is his guiding principle, which is something I did not have in the last eight years.

    In an ideal world I would do many things differently and I am sure this is true for President Obama as well, but I think I don't have to tell you how to end this sentence, right?

    Oh yeah, and that comment on inflation: In a situation like this, when economy almost comes to a halt, inflation is the lesser of two evils (cf. deflation). I am sure you have read about Hooverville, Hoover-plaids and how the cuts in Great Depression Germany led to the rise of the NS-regime. Stopping the bail-outs and a policy of tight money just will not do the trick. As much as I believe that it is almost impossible to learn from history, this is an economic lesson rulers have obviously learned (thank God).
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    Originally Posted by pat
    Do you have any idea what to do? It wasn't Obama who sold those sub-prime mortgages. But greedy brokers. All major pension funds -- not only in the US but world wide -- invested in those derivatives. If you let AIG go bankrupt, the insurances that protect those pension funds will vanish into thin air. This would mean an absolute catastrophe for current and future pensioners. OF course I hate to see those ridiculous bonuses just as much as the next man, but from a regulative point of view taxing those bonuses is a delicate matter, to say the least.

    However I have the feeling that president Obama has the awareness that there are situations -- and we seem to be in such a situation right now -- in which you can only do wrong, both by acting and by not acting. Still I have the impression that the moral imperative is his guiding principle, which is something I did not have in the last eight years.

    In an ideal world I would do many things differently and I am sure this is true for President Obama as well, but I think I don't have to tell you how to end this sentence, right?

    Oh yeah, and that comment on inflation: In a situation like this, when economy almost comes to a halt, inflation is the lesser of two evils (cf. deflation). I am sure you have read about Hooverville, Hoover-plaids and how the cuts in Great Depression Germany led to the rise of the NS-regime. Stopping the bail-outs and a policy of tight money just will not do the trick. As much as I believe that it is almost impossible to learn from history, this is an economic lesson rulers have obviously learned (thank God).

    Did you really post this?

    "Obama wasn't blah blah blah"....Really? no shyt, but your brainwashed listening to the media puppets about "sub-prime mortgages" (sub-prime lending) being the "main" cause of the financial problem. The main cause of the economy "crisis" revolves around the credit derivatives.

    The subprime-mortagage is just another front, a scam by scam artists, the bankers want to place the blame on citizens of this country to cover their tracks.





    What has Obama done to actually help this country? .......nothing, nothing but help take away more our liberties, is slowly increasing the size of government and helping to further push us into hyperinflation.

    He's doing what he's being told to do by his advisors and people that control him.


    OF course I hate to see those ridiculous bonuses just as much as the next man, but from a regulative point of view taxing those bonuses is a delicate matter, to say the least.
    This is why I don't waste a lot of time here, "taxing those bonuses is a delicate matter"?? smh

    Why would you even post this under your name? This is just straight out stupid to say that giving bonuses to crooks and then taxing them is important. Good job, you passed the logical class with flying colors.

    This is like me saying, "It's important for me to reward the guy that just robbed my house but let's just take away a very tiny percentage of what he has taken from ME"

    ...really? lol I can't waste more of my time replying to shyt like this. I'm not gonna even bother going into other issues, just think before you type at least.

    I'm gonna update my first post with some additional stuff-
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    Originally Posted by Akamu
    The subprime-mortagage is just another front, a scam by scam artists, the bankers want to place the blame on citizens of this country to cover their tracks.
    You should have read my other posts before starting your rant. Repackaging those subprime-mortgages and reselling them as a part of different non-transparent financial products is the big issue here. This is somethingbank managers did.

    Nevertheless, any sane person has to agree that it is problematic to buy house if you don't have the money and there is little to no chance to actually earn it in the next couple of years. The only hope people had, was that the bloated "value" of their houses will allow them to sell their house at a higher price, pay-off their mortgages, and buy something they could afford. How unlikely is that? I know that there were other formats as well. But the main problem is that it was a Ponzi scheme and the bucket has to stop somewhere.

    I am only saying that consumers are not entirely guilt-free. This is a question of a state of mind, that has advanced certain unfavourable tendencies. I could write a cultural history of what went wrong only using commercials in magazines, newspapers and the advertisements I've seen during the 2007 and 2008 Allstar games.


    Originally Posted by Akamu
    What has Obama done to actually help this country?
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    Not bad for 80 days, I think.

    Originally Posted by Akamu
    smh
    This is like me saying, "It's important for me to reward the guy that just robbed my house but let's just take away a very tiny percentage of what he has taken from ME"
    Obviously you got the whole thing wrong. They actually taxed those bonuses by 90%. This is not about a tiny percentage. As much as I hate the idea that --under current regulations -- the same people who screwed up badly can give each other straight up immoral bonuses, there still is no law that can prevent them from doing so. But that is a question of lacking regulation by the Bush administration.
    This whole taxing business is a work-around. However, it essentially means that everybody's income could be taxed by 90% in a coup de main. I thought this would be something you -- as our prime conspiracy theorist --can't approve of.

    Originally Posted by Akamu
    ...really? lol I can't waste more of my time replying to shyt like this.
    No need to insult me. I thought this was a place where we can have a debate over issues we may disagree about without losing our temper.

    But please: stop that "brainwashed by the media" conspiracy stuff. Your youTube videos are just another type of media output. Who actually owns youTube? Oh wait, its Google, the biggest collector of personal information. Furthermore, I don't even have a TV, because I can't be bothered to watch all this pointless bull.
    I read several Newspapers, including, The New York Times, The Guardian (GB), the Independent (GB), and Die Zeit (Germany). I think I have a rather multi-perspective approach, which is the basis of a more balanced point of view on things. And please: STOP fiddling around with those bold print/font-colour options. Making your post more colourful (literally) doesn't make it more convincing.
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    Originally Posted by pat
    No need to insult me. I thought this was a place where we can have a debate over issues we may disagree about without losing our temper.

    But please: stop that "brainwashed by the media" conspiracy stuff. Your youTube videos are just another type of media output. Who actually owns youTube? Oh wait, its Google, the biggest collector of personal information. Furthermore, I don't even have a TV, because I can't be bothered to watch all this pointless bull.
    I read several Newspapers, including, The New York Times, The Guardian (GB), the Independent (GB), and Die Zeit (Germany). I think I have a rather multi-perspective approach, which is the basis of a more balanced point of view on things. And please: STOP fiddling around with those bold print/font-colour options. Making your post more colourful (literally) doesn't make it more convincing.
    NOPE! Haven't you seen this board? You don't agree with Akamu or one of his buddies, they just attack you, call you stupid and say all your facts are wrong and from skewed sources and all their sources are gold. Come on pat, stop trying to have a reasonable discussion, they are always right no matter what, and even if they aren't right, they'll just talk the loudest!

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    Did you guys know that there have been more filibusters this term than ever before? 90ish I think it is. That is a crazy amount of filibusters...

    Republican party is just refusing to do anything...So when bills don't get passed for weeks Obama gets the blame because the Republican party refuses to work with anyone...

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