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Thread: Ewing Underappreciated?

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    Default Ewing Underappreciated?

    If it's truly the case, then that sucks balls.

    I'd still take Mike D I think. It'd be great to have Ewing on board however. Especially if we were to FINALLY acquire a center & have him tutored by the one & only Big Pat 33.


    If only he were 20 years younger & filling the paint with fear for us right now.

    NEW YORK -- Stan Van Gundy loves having [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] on his staff. He can't figure out why the [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] don't want him.
    Van Gundy criticized the Knicks on Monday night for failing to give Ewing, the franchise's career scoring leader, a coaching job in the organization.
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    The fans certainly love him. The organization to me sort of pretends to appreciate him and like him.
    <cite>-- Magic coach Stan Van Gundy on
    assistant Patrick Ewing</cite>
    <!-- END INLINE QUOTE-BOX MODULE -->"I'm not trying to needle anybody or tell them their business," Van Gundy said after Orlando beat the Knicks 106-102. "What's amazing is they honor the guy, I don't know, every year. They honor him, but while they've got a lot of ex-players in their organization, they've never made any move to try to hire him. That to me is amazing."


    Ewing was honored at halftime, when the Knicks presented seven of their former players with "legends awards." Introduced last, he received a loud ovation from the fans, who seem to appreciate him even more than they did when he was playing in New York from 1985-2000.


    Van Gundy isn't sure the organization does.
    "I mean, I don't know. It's sort of back and forth," Van Gundy said. "They seem to like you. The fans certainly love him. The organization to me sort of pretends to appreciate him and like him."
    Ewing was a favorite of Van Gundy's brother, Jeff, who coached the Knicks from March 1996 until resigning in December 2001.
    Ewing is in his second season on Van Gundy's staff after previously serving as an assistant coach in Washington and Houston. He is credited for his work with centers [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] and the Magic's [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], who came out early to watch the halftime ceremony -- none of the Knicks players did.
    Yet he was apparently never a serious candidate for the Knicks' coaching job last year when [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] was fired. Meanwhile, New York did interview former Knicks guard [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], even though he has no coaching experience.


    "This is a guy that not only was the face of their franchise, but when your best player works as hard as he does and competes as hard as he does, he gives your team a chance to be great. They say great things about him, but when it's time to put up or shut up, they don't do anything," said Van Gundy, who recently feuded with [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] over his comments about O'Neal's flopping.


    "So you know, it's been amazing and it's been our fortune in Orlando, that it's pretty amazing that with the ex-players that they hire here to me, there hasn't been a move. There are other ex-players that got interviews for their head coaching job, but then a guy who's been in the league with three different teams as an assistant can't get an interview."
    Ewing has said he wants a top job in the NBA and there was some thought he would end up back in New York last year, either as the head coach or perhaps as an assistant on Mike D'Antoni's staff.


    "I'm just like any person who is coaching in this league," Ewing said before the game. "I'm just looking for an opportunity, that's all."


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    Probably would not be a good head coach. Skill wise he would seem to be a great assistant working with big men, but I don't see him having the ability to coach a team.

    Doesn't matter anyway as D'antoni is a far superior coach to what he could ever imagine being.

    You give the best man for the the job the job, not the guy you have sentimental feelings for, and that is what we did.

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    Ewing would be a good assistant coach to replace a guy like Herb Williams....Ewing helped Dwight Howard be an even better big man and with Ewing as our big man coach...Lee, Curry, Jeffries, Harrington, etc all of these guys would improve their awareness and aggressiveness in the paint.

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    Patrick Ewing > Mike D'Antoni

    Ewing would have gotten the Knicks Brook Lopez.

    Ewing would have gotten rid of Eddy Curry and Quentin Richardson, after seeing how much those two guys suck.

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    Our coaching staff SUCKED on DEFENSE the past 4 seasons.

    Yao rookie season showed how misplaced he was as a Center in the NBA....Ewing and Mutombo rounded out Yao all-around game as the leagues tough center.
    The Houston Rockets was the team that was supposed to go after Zach Randolph and Artest this offseason to put with Yao this season.

    Dwight Superman Howard is only 23 years old....before 2007 the hiring of Patrick Ewing Dwight Howard could not position himself as a center so the Magic could only use him as a Strong-Foward. Under Patrick Ewing 2 years of training and positioning Dwight Howard is the number one top center in the league. Guess who is 2nd? Yao!

    Stan Van Gundy is absolutely right....the Knicks should've signed Patrick Ewing with an urgency....why? Eddie Curry showed that he is one of the leagues top scoring low post Centers in the league....however Curry is clueless and disoriented on defensive-positioning inwhich Patrick Ewing would've became the Knicks coach on team-defense and defensive strategy for our poor 4th qtr. defense.
    We all know why coach Dantoni is not coaching in Phoenix this season....no-defense strategy in the 4th qtr...

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    And Ewing is the only one in this league who knows how much they suck? or do you think every GM in the western hemisphere knows the same thing? Those two are persona non grata. No GM (unless his name Isiah) would trade for those two. Don't blame Walsh, no one wants them and that's why they still in New York. Not because Walsh didn't trade them

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    Patrick Ewing isn't under appreciated by any means from the Knicks organization.

    If anything, I think they're preserving his legacy by not handing him such a depleted roster.

    I would take Ewing any day over any coach but maybe the Knicks are right in this instance. I mean if we have a losing season, we don't want fans to turn on Pat and start booing him. This is NY you know. LOL

    We booed Isiah Thomas outta 2 jobs at once LMAO.

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    Originally Posted by TunerAddict
    Probably would not be a good head coach. Skill wise he would seem to be a great assistant working with big men, but I don't see him having the ability to coach a team.

    Doesn't matter anyway as D'antoni is a far superior coach to what he could ever imagine being.

    You give the best man for the the job the job, not the guy you have sentimental feelings for, and that is what we did.
    Your comments, as well as Paul's, are completely arbitrary to Ewing's ability or skill, insofar as coaching is concerned. What makes you, or Paul, an authority on coaching, let alone this particular man's coaching ability?

    You say that you don't think he has the skill? Based on what? You say that he could never imagine being what D'Antoni is. What does that even mean? You think you're prescient of everything in Ewing's life? You then speak of the man in a condescending manner, saying he'd make a "great assistant coach for big men," as if he can't work in any other area of the game, when, in fact, he's not a big man assistant coach, he's an assistant coach for an entire team.

    You say the best man should get the job? What makes D'Antoni better than Ewing? Ewing hasn't had the chance to be a head coach, let alone one that had the benefit of coaching two guys like Nash and Stoudamire, who would've gotten winning records for any coach in this league.

    As a former coach and player, I've seen guys who I thought were good coaches, up close, and have found out they're not very good. I've also seen guys who I've thought were bad, and they're excellent: strategic, can easily pick up on problems and are good at explaining solutions.

    So, really, you don't know what you're talking about.

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    Originally Posted by Scribbles
    Patrick Ewing isn't under appreciated by any means from the Knicks organization.

    If anything, I think they're preserving his legacy by not handing him such a depleted roster.

    I would take Ewing any day over any coach but maybe the Knicks are right in this instance. I mean if we have a losing season, we don't want fans to turn on Pat and start booing him. This is NY you know. LOL

    We booed Isiah Thomas outta 2 jobs at once LMAO.
    And made him overdose on Lunesta.

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    Originally Posted by OGKnickfan
    Your comments, as well as Paul's, are completely arbitrary to Ewing's ability or skill, insofar as coaching is concerned. What makes you, or Paul, an authority on coaching, let alone this particular man's coaching ability?

    You say that you don't think he has the skill? Based on what? You say that he could never imagine being what D'Antoni is. What does that even mean? You think you're prescient of everything in Ewing's life? You then speak of the man in a condescending manner, saying he'd make a "great assistant coach for big men," as if he can't work in any other area of the game, when, in fact, he's not a big man assistant coach, he's an assistant coach for an entire team.

    You say the best man should get the job? What makes D'Antoni better than Ewing? Ewing hasn't had the chance to be a head coach, let alone one that had the benefit of coaching two guys like Nash and Stoudamire, who would've gotten winning records for any coach in this league.

    As a former coach and player, I've seen guys who I thought were good coaches, up close, and have found out they're not very good. I've also seen guys who I've thought were bad, and they're excellent: strategic, can easily pick up on problems and are good at explaining solutions.

    So, really, you don't know what you're talking about.
    Resume shows the better candidate.
    That ****ing simple.

    Guy with 0 wins as a head coach, or a guy who has average 58 that last 4 seasons.

    No brainer who is the better man for the job.

    Quit being so sentimental and use your brain.

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    Originally Posted by TunerAddict
    Resume shows the better candidate.
    That ****ing simple.

    Guy with 0 wins as a head coach, or a guy who has average 58 that last 4 seasons.

    No brainer who is the better man for the job.

    Quit being so sentimental and use your brain.
    Uhhhh... yeah, he got 58 wins and now, all of a sudden, when he doesn't have Nash and Stoudamire to help him, he has 28.

    And as for Ewing, you can twist things all you want, but he has been a more than effective player and assistant coach. Every team he's worked for, as an assistant, has made the playoffs. And again, you're a fan: you don't know what really goes into the technical aspects of basketball, AKA coaching.

    And speaking of resumes, let's look at yours: you have been murdered by ABCD, metrocard, and others, and now by me: congrats. And do I even have to mention Mardy and Anthony?

    SHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

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    Originally Posted by OGKnickfan
    Uhhhh... yeah, he got 58 wins and now, all of a sudden, when he doesn't have Nash and Stoudamire to help him, he has 28.

    And as for Ewing, you can twist things all you want, but he has been a more than effective player and assistant coach. Every team he's worked for, as an assistant, has made the playoffs. And again, you're a fan: you don't know what really goes into the technical aspects of basketball, AKA coaching.

    And speaking of resumes, let's look at yours: you have been murdered by ABCD, metrocard, and others, and now by me: congrats. And do I even have to mention Mardy and Anthony?

    SHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
    Most comical **** you've ever said...

    Not even worth discussing **** with because you are so blinded by your own arrogance that you don't even acknowledge the arguments and points made by your opposition.

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    Originally Posted by TunerAddict
    Most comical **** you've ever said...

    Not even worth discussing **** with because you are so blinded by your own arrogance that you don't even acknowledge the arguments and points made by your opposition.
    What's wrong? You're mad cause you're yet to win an argument on Knicksonline? What are you now? 0-40? You're worse than the Washington Wizards.

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    i dont feel like reading the original post but i voted for patrick ewing

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    Me thinks Stan Van Gundy should mind his own God damned business. And would putting on a tie for the game where his Assistant is getting an honor really hurt the guy?

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