MSGKnickz33
The Gold Mac
Randolph is talented, but his huge contract diminishes his trade value. Originally, the best offer we got for him was Darko Millicic and a 2nd round pick for Z-Bo and our 1st rounder. The Clippers deal was the best possible deal we could have gotten.
I liked how he was playing too. But it would be impossible to ever get under the cap with him on our roster.
You're right that D'antoni gives his input, but I don't think he had any input on the Randolph trade. That trade was purely for salary cap purposes, it had nothing to do with D'antoni.
BTW, he made the playoffs his first 2 seasons with the Blazers, in which he averaged 6 minutes and 17 minutes a game for the season. In the playoffs, he averages 12 PPG and 7 RPG in 25 minutes per game. Not really a big accomplishment.
I dont know, it depends on how you look at it. 25 minutes per game is over half the game, but it really doesnt prove my point...which is that z-bo is not as much of a cancer as people say he is, he was put in a bad situation here in New York.
I dont think D'antoni had any input on the Randolph trade, i never at any point thought he did. The only things i think D'antoni had input on was drafting the big cock, and he had his mind made up from day one that Marbury wasnt gonna play so he pushed for duhorn signing.
I found this thread interesting, as everyone is bashing the Randolph trade, especially MSGKnickz33, so I went back to the Randolph thread and found this post from MSGKnickz33 himself:
And this from KO's resident asshole metrocard:
At the time everyone was praising the trade, now in hindsight it's bad? The only person who has stayed consistent, ironically, is Team Starbury hanger-on abcd, who bashed the trade when it happened, and bashed it now.
Look, this season was never about making the playoffs, it was never about winning a title. Two years ago, that was the goal. Last year, that was the goal. This year Donnie takes over, and is a GM that actually knows what he is doing. D'Antoni takes over and installs an up-tempo offense. The goal this year was to REBUILD and RETOOL so eventually we can RELOAD. To come here and expect D'Antoni to take this abysmal franchise, who then trades away mid-season their top-2 leading scorers so that they have more CAP FLEXIBILITY (a good thing), and then also want a playoff bound team is asking a bit much. I'm not saying D'Antoni has done the best job, but it was never about the 2008-09 New York Knicks, it was about building for free agency, about digging ourselves out of salary cap hell. But the team has to be bad before they can be better, that's what rebuilding is.
Even if we don't get LeBron, even if we don't get Wade, Bosh, Stoudemire, Nowitzki or ANYBODY, at the very least they have been dug out of salary cap hell. At the very least we'll be able to move some pieces a little more freely, be able to sign that one guy to that big contract, and at the very least at LEAST this team is playing a brand of basketball that is fun to watch. I hated the Isiah-brand, and when you don't win the Brown-brand is awful to watch. D'Antoni has put together a game that is good to watch, that is at the very least entertaining, even though they are losing.
But to say D'Antoni didn't do his job, that's just silly, come on now. You are too deep in the forest to see the trees. An NYK Championship in 2009 is not the goal, the goal is to be better down the line, to be better in the long term and for a longer period of time, not to make ridiculous trades for over-rated superstars to try in vain to win now.
Haha very funny...we got a funny guy here. :lol:
I just wanna put you in a headlock and give you a nuggie
In defense of...myself...I thought Mobley would be playing for us, and I never really thought that trade was great...i just felt like swagger jackin tony the tiger. I was and still is a big fan of crawford for Al Harrington, however. And i remember saying once i found out that Mobley wouldnt be playing for us, that we should have got a 2nd round pick from the clippers.
Metro hasnt even posted in this thread yet, how you gonna bring him up? You did yourself in there doggie, thats not a good look when you bringin up other dudes for no reason.
Who said anything about us making the playoffs this year? I just think that we should be able to win more games then we won in 2006-07, and while we are entertaining at times lets not act like we can still be embarrassing as seen recently against the bobcats and the kings.