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    Originally Posted by quiggle
    we'd be talking about getting ready for the playoffs now if Mark Jackson was the head coach, but you all didn't listen. look at all the other brand name coaches this organizations has had and they all did not deliver. Pat Riley, Don Nelson, Lenny Wilkens, Larry Brown and now D'Antoni.
    Congratulations, you made an assumption based on absolutely nothing.

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    Originally Posted by quiggle
    we'd be talking about getting ready for the playoffs now if Mark Jackson was the head coach, but you all didn't listen. look at all the other brand name coaches this organizations has had and they all did not deliver. Pat Riley, Don Nelson, Lenny Wilkens, Larry Brown and now D'Antoni.
    lulz......

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    dude, D does not have his perfect team still. He needs a star to depend on. D'Antoni will be coach of the year in 3 years and will lead us to the finals. I wouldn't be surprised if he was tanking..... He could have gone into saying playoffs, then realized crap man this team is worse than Isiah as a gm let get a good pick

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    I wouldn't be surprise if we actually sold the pick this upcoming draft. In D'antoni's tenure with Phoenix, the team traded the draft rights to Luol Deng, Rudy Fernandez and Sergio Rodriguez on three consecutive years in order to stay under the luxury tax. Being that our Knicks are cutting salary I wouldn't be surprise if D'antoni and Walsh trade or sell the pick to move down or just receive cash considerations.

    I don't care who made pick during the '08 draft selecting Gallinari, as this team needed a fresh look getting an international player to us. We didn't draft a savior but someone that has a great basketball IQ and that showed in limited games that he understood spacing/vision to play in our system. I can't wait to see him next year, and if we do keep the pick I would draft Al-Farouq Aminu, he reminds me of Scottie Pippen in the open floor.


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    Default Dantoni is way....overratted

    MSGKnickz33....u said it best "Dantoni is Overratted"

    So many of us was so dang happy with getting Isiah Thomas out of the coaching box and President office we did'nt care if they selected fans ticket stubs out of a hat to replace Isiah.
    That is why half of the members in this forum is still so happy with the Firing of Isiah that they will defend and show much-much LUV for Walsh & Dantoni.

    To be truthful....I dont think Walsh ever heard, seen, or knew Gallinari existed untill the week he hired Dantoni.

    The Knicks hired coach Larry Brown in July. And reading the arbitration where the Knicks refuse to pay Brown the remainder of his contract the Knicks stated coach Larry Brown made deals with other teams, his first time was with Cleveland 2 months after being hired (September) for a trade to get PG-Eric Snow.

    Most of us ole-timers recall when coach Larry Brown quit on the Spurs and took the Pacers coaching job weeks later the Spurs traded PG-Mark Jackson to the Pacers. That trade had Larry Brown written all over it which was the first competitive season the Pacers had under Walsh watch.

    The question is still in the air about "WHO" idea it was in Phoenix to make the Shaq trade....Steve Kerr? or Dantoni?

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    Nyk Logo Dantoni is overratted

    Dantoni's coaching and decision-making this season is very questionable from the denial of giving our ending contract $21M player Marbury any playingtime to trading our highest scorer and rebounder (20-10) Zach Randolph along with our defensive big-guard that added depth on our bench for DNP players that are only good at picking up their pay check (Mobley & Thomas).
    Between the short 6 to 7 man rotation, to the coach to player awareness, to the substitution, to not using all his time-outs with a short rotation, to the no-strategy in crunchtime, to the no-defense policy can all be question.

    We all know why Isiah's coaching lost game after game after-game for two seasons....Isiah benched his young athletic players to give the majority of playingtime to his high priced contract players which did not get along with each other or together as a team to where their no-luv for each other divided the players in the Knicks lockerroom.

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    Originally Posted by abcd
    Patrick Ewing emphasizes defense, and he's great at developing centers. Look at how much better Yao Ming and Dwight Howard currently are. The Knicks made a mistake for not hiring Ewing and not drafting Brook Lopez.
    As a head coach he won't have time for developing centers. That is something assistant coaches do. However, I'll have to agree with you that he might stress defense a bit more. He could also do that with a team built around a guard. However, I think D'Antoni deserves more time. As somebody said before: this team is developing into a new direction and a direction is something I haven't seen in years with this franchise.

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    Guys what proof do we have that D'antoni was the one who drafted Gallo and signed Duhon? Its kind of like knicks fans blaming 100% of our problems on Starbury without proof.

    I am sure he had a "say" in the drafting of Gallo, like most coaches have a say in drafting their players, but Walsh is the man who pulls the trigger. The blame goes on him, not D'antoni.

    Think of this: The guys who do not like D'antoni blame him for this season, because he is the coach and he is responsible for getting our players to win. But at the same time you will blame D'antoni on the drafting Gallo and signing Duhon which are clearly the responsibilities of the GM? That is hypocritical. Unless you are saying that D'antoni is the the real GM and Donni is a puppet?

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    I'm amazed at the lack of awerness on this site. Some of you really are clueless and not only seeing the little picture, but just a fraction of it. You think you know more about the team than D'Antoni does, fine, I'm sure you do, after all you have seen them on TV. He have just spent 6 months with them on a daily basis and have them in practice everyday. I mean what the heck does he know about the team?

    D'Antoni did this, D'Antoni did that. Yeah he does everything in the organization. He book hotels, He's the one that puts out the uniform before game time, He washes them after, He Sign players, He flys the plane and drive the buss. He's the one on the phone everyday with other coaches and have trade talks. Because from what I read here on this board, that's how it goes down. D'Antoni traded, D'Antoni could have gotten us a draft pick etc etc,

    Still some of you are angry at him. Why? How is he gonna have time to coach when he does everything else?

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    Marc Jackson or Ewing would have been smart enough to let Walsh do the trading and signing. They would have focused on the team. We would have been in the playoffs now. Brook Lopez probably in the hall of fame already and Starbury would have a statue on 7th avenue and avg a quadruple-double. Zach Randolph would have put numbers that would put Bill Russel to shame and Crawford, Oh i don't even wanna think about him. Jordan who...

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    It's year one of rebuilding. What did you expect? Isiah Thomas and Stephon Marbury left this franchise in ruins. Nobody could have fixed this in one year. This is still the least talented team in the East. We don't have a single Star on the team. We don't even have good starters on the team (David Lee, Nate Robinson, Al Harrington, Chris Duhon, Wilson Chandler are backup's.).

    This is a 30 win team. Mike D'Antoni did not underachieve.

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    I understand that people are upset right now because not making the playoffs is sinking in. This team has been bad for a long time now and its time to start pointing fingers. In reality there is enough blame to go around. Walsh gets the blame for drafting Gallinari. Point blank. I read an article that said Walsh didn't scout Gallinari, Isiah did. Enough said. That fact that Gallinari and D'antoni have almost a father son relationship doesn't help. Everyone was mad at the father-son relationship Isiah had with Crawford, but at least Jamal played and produced.

    D'antoni, while doing a credible job coaching this team, needs to hire a defensive specialist as an assistant. This team plays woeful defense and it is ridiculous. Giving up 135 to the Clippers last week??? Wow. Unacceptable. He also deserves some blame on how the Marbury situation was handled. I don't blame D'antoni for that and we should have known that was coming with the history between the two in Phoenix. D'antoni held out an olive branch and gave Steph a chance, but Steph would rather sit on the bench and get paid, then go sit on the bench for a rival team and back into a championship. Some hero. I will be rooting for Cleveland just so Steph gets no ring. Call me a hater if you want. That's right, I am hating. Steph stole 21 million dollars from our team for doing nothing.

    Bottomline, rebuilding is painful. The good is Walsh is doing a good job dumping salaries in anticipation of 2010 so we should have a shot. Hopefully someone will want to come play here. Gallinari is only a 19 year old rookie so maybe he will come back and prove me wrong and play like a lottery pick. At best we might have a Keith Van Horn type player(sorry guys). At worse we passed on a lot of talent to draft another Weiss. The only thing you can do is try to enjoy the games and take the small victories. We have a game coming up against the Bulls and we can play spoiler. N8 and D. Lee are great young players and look to be a foundation for the future. Finally our Knicks play an exciting brand of basketball that is TV friendly and fun to watch. So try to just watch for the pure entertainment value and look to the future.

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    This is just a bunch of Mebury lovers being bitter and holding a grudge because D'Antoni didn't play Mebury. Evidenced by the fact they are blaming D'Antoni for the moves Walsh made.

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    Originally Posted by LJ4ptplay
    This is just a bunch of Mebury lovers being bitter and holding a grudge because D'Antoni didn't play Mebury. Evidenced by the fact they are blaming D'Antoni for the moves Walsh made.
    I think it's more than that, you see the Mebury lovers wanted Mebury to play so that we would be better immediately. They wanted instant gratification. If Mebury got his chance, maybe we would be a playoff team, but that'd come at the expense of other guys who actually are a part of our future getting time and us getting a worse draft pick only to let Mebury go next year.

    This is the same thing, they want instant gratification, which is fine because it's their opinion. The people bashing D'Antoni want everything now now now and to be better and to do a 180 in under 365 days. They don't realize rebuilding takes time, and now that we are ACTUALLY rebuilding (rather than Isiah's "rebuilding" which consists of trading for overrated players with terrible contracts), they are upset because things have to get worse before they get better. We have to weather the storm to see the rainbow so to speak, which is admittedly a difficult thing to come to grips with. It's a very common NY way to do things, NY fans want to win now, and they are rabid about it. But we have to realize that just because we are in NY doesn't mean we play by different rules. We can build our team the right way, which takes time, or the wrong way which just results in the same thing over and over again, bad contract after bad contract and overrated player after overrated player

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