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Thread: NYのトレード09 - Knicks Off-Season Trade Contest

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    Originally Posted by jpz17
    jpz is in first easy
    No way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    I'm in first easy! lol

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    But you did trade Curry.

    Hmmmmmm.

    I've been thinking about it, and have deciphered whose 09 team is better.








    Mine

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    Originally Posted by TunerAddict
    That is a complete overhaul, and I really doubt that its possible...Plus it would most likely hurt our cap in the long run when we are resigning Boozer, Hinrich, and Prince, pretty much eliminating the fight for LeBron/Wade/etc...
    Look at it this way, if we did get Lebron, Dwade etc. who do we pair them up with? my trade scenerio doesnt land us a player of Lebron's caliber, but creates a complete team. Honestly the whole Lebron and class of 2010 is overatted, teams are not going to be able to get these players off the strength of cap alone, they are going to want to go to a team who has a chance to win, not a rebuilding team.

    Also I think every trade proposed here is a roseter overhaul and is highly unliekly to happen.

    But, I do think we need such an overhaul because our current roster consist of role players who have never been too successful.

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    Originally Posted by New New York
    Look at it this way, if we did get Lebron, Dwade etc. who do we pair them up with? my trade scenerio doesnt land us a player of Lebron's caliber, but creates a complete team. Honestly the whole Lebron and class of 2010 is overatted, teams are not going to be able to get these players off the strength of cap alone, they are going to want to go to a team who has a chance to win, not a rebuilding team.

    Also I think every trade proposed here is a roseter overhaul and is highly unliekly to happen.

    But, I do think we need such an overhaul because our current roster consist of role players who have never been too successful.

    I hear ya man, but it just doesn't seem possible. It is soooooooooo hard to just blow up a team like that. If it could be done, I'd support it. It is just that it doesn't seem that likely that we could indeed make those moves all together. Overhauling a team is mad hard.

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    Originally Posted by TunerAddict
    I hear ya man, but it just doesn't seem possible. It is soooooooooo hard to just blow up a team like that. If it could be done, I'd support it. It is just that it doesn't seem that likely that we could indeed make those moves all together. Overhauling a team is mad hard.
    **** yeah it's hard.

    What won't be hard for us is to get much worse.

    as far as an extreme revamp goes, we've got some expiring contracts but some of them are ludicrously expensive.

    Holding on to them (Duhon, Harrington, Hughes etc) for another season is a strong possibility. If we send them packing with a boot in the ass and sign longer contracts, our flexibility diminishes and the flexibility of other teams outweighs our own thanks to no one but us.

    Next season could very well be as painful in the win tally as this one.

    It's breaking my brain just thinking about the umpteen possibilities and their pros & cons.

    If any one can hit the nail on the head with a trade on this thread (a trade that actually happens I mean) then I'll eat my hat.

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    ^ oh yea i don't think anyone go come close to what we'll end up with, but fun talkn bout nonetheless...(aside from LeBron that is )


    as for that New New Yorks line up...yea there isn't one star, and you can call it a 'complete' line up..but we way more likely to get James then get all all those semi star players and fit em all in nice and smooth like that..not that id want them tbh...AI is a scrub flashy player in my eyes... i'd much rather have a James and build nicely around him..

    as for the FA being overrated and them not wanting to go to a rebuilding team.. i disagree. The more things play out, the more i think James will be coming here...he can careless what 'stage' we are in...LeBron can take a bunch of scrubs and bring them to the finals first yr, he'll win anywhere as we know...he loves ny, he sees we've been making this room for him, and lets face it, we are NY, and he's LeBron ' bigger then the game' James...Clev fans will understand, he won't be shun from his home town forever, or banished as people try to make it seem...he'll be rockin in the NY going to Yankee games chillin with CC..

    As for who we'll get to go with LeBron, that i'm not quite sure of, and is Donnie's job to figure out...which is why this offseason is so important...we don't want to be acquiring his sorrounding cast the same yr we get him, we want to start building them now...so it's a sort of risk to assume we'll get James and go after players that will work well around him this yr, but i think it's a risk were all willing to take...i think we'll be landing a big star eitther way, and we're going to need a nice cast either way, so hopefully that'll be done at least a little bit this offseason...As i said, i'm feelin pretty good about James becoming a Knick right now..and at the end of the day, not much else matters

    get to work Donnie..you got one hell of a job to do

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    Originally Posted by Crazy8s
    <!-- begin playerStatCont --> Nate Robinson #4 PG - Sign and Trade @ $6m/year for 4 years and the trade works.
    <!-- comp -->

    <table class="tablehead statCont" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr class="gamehead"><td colspan="4">2008-09 STATS</td></tr> <tr class="colhead playerStatSub"><td>PPG</td><td>APG</td><td>SPG</td></tr> <tr class="oddrow playerStats"><td>18</td><td>4</td><td>1.3</td></tr></tbody></table>
    For.....
    <!-- begin left column --> <!-- begin player --> <!-- begin playerStatCont --> Channing Frye #44 PF - Welcome back doofus.


    <table class="tablehead statCont" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr class="gamehead"><td colspan="4">2008-09 STATS</td></tr> <tr class="colhead playerStatSub"><td>PPG</td><td>RPG</td><td>BPG</td></tr> <tr class="oddrow playerStats"><td>4</td><td>2.2</td><td>0.3</td></tr></tbody></table> <!-- begin left column --> <!-- begin player --> <!-- begin playerStatCont --> Rudy Fernandez #5 SG

    <table class="tablehead statCont" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr class="gamehead"><td colspan="4">2008-09 STATS</td></tr> <tr class="colhead playerStatSub"><td>PPG</td><td>APG</td><td>3P%</td></tr> <tr class="oddrow playerStats"><td>10.2</td><td>2.1</td><td>.384</td></tr></tbody></table>
    As much as I'd love it to, this'll never happen.

    So, I've gone for...........


    <!-- begin left column --> <!-- begin player --> <!-- begin playerStatCont --> Chris Wilcox #9 PF
    <!-- comp -->

    <table class="tablehead statCont" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr class="gamehead"><td colspan="4">2008-09 STATS</td></tr> <tr class="colhead playerStatSub"><td>PPG</td><td>RPG</td><td>BPG</td></tr> <tr class="oddrow playerStats"><td>7.2</td><td>4.5</td><td>0.3</td></tr></tbody></table> <!-- begin playerStatCont --> Nate Robinson
    <!-- comp -->

    <table class="tablehead statCont" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1"> <tbody><tr class="gamehead"><td colspan="4">2008-09 STATS</td></tr> <tr class="colhead playerStatSub"><td>PPG</td><td>APG</td><td>SPG</td></tr> <tr class="oddrow playerStats"><td>18</td><td>4</td><td>1.3</td></tr></tbody> </table>
    For.....

    <!-- begin left column --> <!-- begin player --> <!-- begin playerStatCont --> Tyson Chandler #6 C
    <!-- comp -->

    <table class="tablehead statCont" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr class="gamehead"><td colspan="4">2008-09 STATS</td></tr> <tr class="colhead playerStatSub"><td>PPG</td><td>RPG</td><td>BPG</td></tr> <tr class="oddrow playerStats"><td>8.8</td><td>8.7</td><td>1.2</td></tr></tbody></table>New Orleans are financially fingered... They've proven they're willing to take on Wilcox and N8 would be very handy in Pargo's absence.

    Now, Chandler's stats don't jump out at you flashing their tits, but he's 7.3"
    and blocks more shots than anyone else on this team.

    In this scenario, Lee could then be traded along with Harrington for Bosh (a trade that works if Lee were payed approx $9m/year)

    So, with Chandler and Bosh added to the current line up, we're looking at a decent 5, but depth is an issue. If we managed to be lucky enough to draft Ty Lawson, we'd have a 5 of:

    5. Chandler
    4. Bosh
    3. Gallo
    2. Chandler
    1. Ty Lawson


    Decent.... AND LEAVES ROOM FOR 2010

    But....

    The bench would be ****.

    Duhon, Fats Gay, Hughes, Q, Jeffries and some other 10 day contract guy.

    We'd need another big to back Chandler and a better SF than Q.

    Getting high and devising master plans can be very strenuous. Until you have another pipe. I shall indulge active immediately.
    After Chandler's efforts vs the Nuggets I'm gonna have to start again.... ****ing woeful!

    Collectively throughout 4 games, these are his accumulative stats:

    18 points

    18 boards

    1 block

    2 assists

    4 or 5 turnovers

    fouled out in the blowout of game 4.

    I'd keep Wilcox at this stage!

    Jesus H

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    Originally Posted by Crazy8s
    After Chandler's efforts vs the Nuggets I'm gonna have to start again.... ****ing woeful!

    Collectively throughout 4 games, these are his accumulative stats:

    18 points

    18 boards

    1 block

    2 assists

    4 or 5 turnovers

    fouled out in the blowout of game 4.

    I'd keep Wilcox at this stage!

    Jesus H
    Those stats dont mean much considering Chandler isnt 100% healthy at all.

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    Another reason to lessen interest in him during the off-season

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    How about sign and trade Nate Robinson to Minnesota for 1st round pick #18, 2nd round pick (Philadelphia) + Brian Cardinal (expiring contract).

    If Minnesota found someone they think can be an average-above average PG, maybe they don't pick Jennings and get a true center in Thabeet instead.

    Knicks can pick best available at #8 regardless of position. Then fill a position of need (PG) at #18, Flynn, Teague, Maynor, Holiday should all go around #14 - #22 in the draft.

    Resign David Lee to play center for 1 more year. Then find a true center next off season through FA (Tyson Chandler) and move Lee back to PF.

    2009 lineup
    Maynor/Teague/Flynn/Holiday #18 pick
    Chandler
    Gallinari
    Harrington
    Lee

    Duhon
    Richardson
    Hughes
    Tyreke Evans #8 pick
    Jefferies
    Curry
    2009 2nd round pick from Philly

    2010 lineup
    Maynor/Flynn/Holiday/Teague
    W. Chandler
    James
    Lee
    T. Chandler

    Tyreke Evans
    Gallinari
    Jefferies
    2nd round picks + mid level exception FA

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    Originally Posted by dave2138
    How about sign and trade Nate Robinson to Minnesota for 1st round pick #18, 2nd round pick (Philadelphia) + Brian Cardinal (expiring contract).

    If Minnesota found someone they think can be an average-above average PG, maybe they don't pick Jennings and get a true center in Thabeet instead.

    Knicks can pick best available at #8 regardless of position. Then fill a position of need (PG) at #18, Flynn, Teague, Maynor, Holiday should all go around #14 - #22 in the draft.

    Resign David Lee to play center for 1 more year. Then find a true center next off season through FA (Tyson Chandler) and move Lee back to PF.

    2009 lineup
    Maynor/Teague/Flynn/Holiday #18 pick
    Chandler
    Gallinari
    Harrington
    Lee

    Duhon
    Richardson
    Hughes
    Tyreke Evans #8 pick
    Jefferies
    Curry
    2009 2nd round pick from Philly

    2010 lineup
    Maynor/Flynn/Holiday/Teague
    W. Chandler
    James
    Lee
    T. Chandler

    Tyreke Evans
    Gallinari
    Jefferies
    2nd round picks + mid level exception FA
    Nate can only be signed and traded after july 1st where the draft is in june so he have to agree before(destination wise and sallary) so the teams can arange in advance. They pick for us at #18 and second round and then in july the trade is finalized. Same scenario for D-lee. So Nate and D-lee have the upper hand in any transaction.

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    The finals are over gents.

    Show what you've got as a GM now we're heading into the biggest off season potentially in NY history.

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    Q Rich to Memphis:

    1 turd down and 3 to go....

    YEAH!!!

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