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    Lee and Robinson are wildly overrated right now because of the pace of the Knicks offensive system and the fact that many people don’t fully appreciate that neither can play any defense at all. IMO, they would make excellent trade bait right now while their value is high.

    People love Lee because of his rebounding.

    Did anyone notice that with Lee out, a seemingly weak rebounder like Chandler was able to get 12 rebounds?

    Several other Knicks also helped pick up the slack. Without their best rebounder, the Knicks outrebounded the Magic by 9.

    Rebounding is obviously a critical part of winning, but in my opinion it’s probably the most fungible skill in all of basketball. Virtually every player on a team can up his rebounding productivity and make up most of the difference if the best rebounder goes down unless he's freakishly good rebounder like Rodman.

    Rebounding is overvalued on an “individual basis” despite being extremely important on a “team basis”.

    Walsh did a great job to get rid of some overrated players with bad contracts. Let’s just hope he doesn’t screw it up by resigning two overrated current players to very big contracts. Neither Lee or Robinson is worth a dime over 5-6 million. They would be role players coming off the bench on any really good team.

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    The problem with that is we can't trade them now. They are free agents. We will have to do a sign and trade. The time to trade them was before this year's trade deadline.

    Personally, I would like to keep them both. I think both of them can be valuable pieces for a championship team. A championship team needs a strong bench.

    But, dumping salary (i.e. Jeffries and Curry) for 2010 is more important and the only way we can dump salary will be to use Nate and Lee as trade bait. It's a tough choice an I understand your argument.

    F**k, that Curry trade was the worst trade in franchise history. All the draft picks we lost and now he's gonna screw us out of rebuilding.
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    I dont think there overated, but the numbers they put up, their trade value is high and we can get a center that can actually play defense

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    Originally Posted by Italian Stallion
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    Rebounding is overvalued on an “individual basis” despite being extremely important on a “team basis”.
    So why is it then that Eddy Curry sucks at rebounding? Rebounding is all about attitude and you can't teach that. This is the main reason why so many GMs are after him. So I'd prefer him to stay. He won't become a superstar in this league but it would be a shame to find out that he could have been that last important part of the puzzle once he is gone.

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    trade Chandler, lots of inflated expectations with him.

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    Originally Posted by quiggle
    trade Chandler, lots of inflated expectations with him.
    hes quietly turning into a solid player.

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    Originally Posted by NicksKnicks
    hes quietly turning into a solid player.
    he fades away too often, especially in crucial moments.

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    Trade D'Antoni
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    Trade Everyone

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    Trade Lee and Nate for draft picks...Lets rebuild with young talent that can learn the system right away and not have to be retrained like all of our players who went from years and years of half court offense to Dantoni's system.

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    nate is too good to be traded, not many other guards in the league can get to the paint liike him and his D isnt that bad just not great, with better team defense he'd be fine

    now Lee and chandler are replaceable considering lee's only real skill is rebounding, his low post game rarely produces a basket when going 1 on 1, and he has 0 D.....chandler shoots a low % for a starting forward, maybe even worse than rudy gay...he ONLY has a good game when he gets baskets inside, otherwise his shot is highly unreliable, but not as bad as hughes...on top of all this he has subpar handling and shot-creation abilities....and it would be hard to say if he can get better in all those areas when he doesnt look natural on the court, just some big dude with a shot form and can play D...like ive said before he seems clumsy on offense and gets his pts off fastbreak situations and open shots

    duhon should also be included in trade, why not? how hard can it be to teach 3 other pro's dantoni's playbook

    with lee, chandler, duhon im sure we can get a real C and a decent backup pg for nate, maybe someone like jarret jack

    then we'd have harrington doing his thing at PF and a true big man down low

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    Originally Posted by the portable man

    duhon should also be included in trade, why not? how hard can it be to teach 3 other pro's dantoni's playbook
    co-sign...his contract should be easy to move... maybe we could use him to move up in the draft and get rubio.

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    Originally Posted by the portable man
    nate is too good to be traded, not many other guards in the league can get to the paint liike him and his D isnt that bad just not great, with better team defense he'd be fine

    This makes you lose all credibility.

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    Originally Posted by quiggle
    trade Chandler, lots of inflated expectations with him.
    Are you nuts? Trade him for what? He is young and he's not making more than 1.2M next year, we have a team option 2010 at 2.1M, He is the only player we cant afford to move, besides the dude is starting to get a grip and he have a bright future in NYC. Reminds me of Jalen Rose with a better D.

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    Originally Posted by Italian Stallion
    IMO....

    Lee and Robinson are wildly overrated right now because of the pace of the Knicks offensive system and the fact that many people don’t fully appreciate that neither can play any defense at all. IMO, they would make excellent trade bait right now while their value is high.

    People love Lee because of his rebounding.

    Did anyone notice that with Lee out, a seemingly weak rebounder like Chandler was able to get 12 rebounds?

    Several other Knicks also helped pick up the slack. Without their best rebounder, the Knicks outrebounded the Magic by 9.

    Rebounding is obviously a critical part of winning, but in my opinion it’s probably the most fungible skill in all of basketball. Virtually every player on a team can up his rebounding productivity and make up most of the difference if the best rebounder goes down unless he's freakishly good rebounder like Rodman.

    Rebounding is overvalued on an “individual basis” despite being extremely important on a “team basis”.

    Walsh did a great job to get rid of some overrated players with bad contracts. Let’s just hope he doesn’t screw it up by resigning two overrated current players to very big contracts. Neither Lee or Robinson is worth a dime over 5-6 million. They would be role players coming off the bench on any really good team.
    If overrated means being the LEAGUE LEADER in doubles passing Dwight Howard whos one of the best centers in the NBA, then yea Lee is a good ovverrated player.

    Lee has one problem....Defense...Lee's defense makes me want to jump in his body and start putting my hands up and going for blocks which he NEVER does. It's frustrating as a fan to watch a guy like Lee, who is a very aggressive player on offense and off the boards to not be aggressive what so ever on defense. It's like Lee is a uncompleted puzzle.

    He is aggressive everywhere except defense and it is killing us. Lee should only be traded for a big defensive upgrade.

    Now onto Nate...a streak player that can be a head case. Great potential and is one of the few guys that can carry this team to a win single handedly. Any guy with that ability should stay with us. It seems like every fan favorite on this team gets traded...keep Nate for his hustle, ridiculous athleticism and ability to score in crunch time. He is great at driving the ball and has a clutch outside shot....he is still one of the most under rated players in basketball. To say that Nate Robinson is over rated is ridiculous. No one knew this guy outside of NY until the slam dunk contest.

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