And again, silly, no one said to stay away from secular education. They said to be mindful of putting any form of education before God. Some people can handle both, some can't. That's a far cry from staying away from secular education.
You really just don't like to listen lol.
Hebrews 11:4 starts with the very first Jehovah's witness on earth. It reads:
4 By faith Abel offered God a sacrifice of greater worth than Cain, through which [faith] he had witness borne to him that he was righteous, God bearing witness respecting his gifts; and through it he, although he died, yet speaks.
Then the rest of the chapter goes on to speak of many other witnesses of Jehovah. Noah, Abraham, Enoch, etc. But To be assured that they are witnesses chapter 12 opens like this: 12:1
So, then, because we have so great a cloud of witnesses surrounding us, let us also put off every weight and the sin that easily entangles us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us,
Who were these people witnesses of? Who bore witness that they were righteous? Jehovah, that's who. That is why they are his witnesses. This is first grade level stuff here, hope you can follow.
Also, here, the jews were considered his witnesses too. Isaiah 43:10
10 “YOU are my witnesses,” is the utterance of Jehovah, “even my servant whom I have chosen, in order that YOU may know and have faith in me, and that YOU may understand that I am the same One. Before me there was no God formed, and after me there continued to be none. 11 I—I am Jehovah, and besides me there is no savior.”
So it's very simple. If you recognize Jehovah as the only true God and worship him because of it, then you are a witness that he is God. Therefore, it is false to believe that Jehovah's witnesses have only been around for 139 years, because God himself views anyone recognizing him as God in faith is a witness. kabeesh??? I hope we're done with this at least.
summary: Carbon dating is unreliable even to some scientists, and they all are not religious, so stop assuming they are. Humans did not evolve from monkeys, that's why I argued against neanderthal paintings, tools and such, along with unreliable carbon dating. the fossil record does not prove we evolve gradually. Hope this helps.
You tried it.
Please refer back to what does the fossil record really prove? That should help.
And Not every scientist who disagrees with the so called inexplicable evidence of evolution is religious. You cannot possibly believe that.
I said I don't argue whether the bible is perfect or not. But it was written by many imperfect men. And for it to be written by imperfect men, the internal harmony is outstanding. And there is no way they could have been in cahootes, because it was written over a long period of time, diff places, diff types of people.
I believe in it because of it's Internal harmony, scientific accuracy, prophetic word, and the writers candor. I'm living in prophetic times predicted several times throughout the bible. none more than Daniel who said that the truth would be abundant in the time of the end. I look up and see that. So no way he could have maneuvered it. he has long been dead.
and you have not proven creation wrong. you only think you have.
And the end is so close, one looking around can smell it. You keep thinking you have 60 years. we'll destroy ourselves long before then if we continue as is. And i don't need the Bible to see that much.
that prophecy refers to inhabitable life there. anyone with half a brain can see that based on the words from generation to generation. Where can you find shepherds and sheep in the desert? That clearly means established habitat. the Smithsonian called the place flat hot deserted and dusty. And army camping there, a failed attempt at a building project, to only become a tourist site is a far cry from the prophecy failing. You are reaching. per usual.
Will address this more too in the next couple of threads.