I guess Kiyaman is gonna have a fit :P
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]So we just got finished up with Ty Lawson, Johnny Flynn and Villanova’s Donte Cunningham and there are some interesting thoughts as the two held court in different parts of the media room.
Both players were extremely (as you’d imagine) complimentary of each other. Flynn admired Lawson’s quickness and strength and Lawson respected the heck out of Flynn’s edginess, which the Syracuse guard knows smaller players need to succeed.
“You have to play with an edge,” Flynn said with a smile that most definitely can light up the Garden. “As a smaller player if you don’t have that you can’t last.”
Flynn is hearing that he is in the top half of “point guards” to be taken in June, but more importantly both he and Lawson want to state their case that they are true point guards, not a two trying to learn the one like Davidson’s Stephen Curry. What makes a player think pass first, you ask? Well, as Flynn points out, getting beat up by the older kids.
“I learned to play the one as a little kid and you have to facilitate or the bigger guys kick you off the court,” Flynn joked. ” Where I’m from you have to learn how to pass first and then scoring completes your game. Then you get with a coach who can allow you to run their office and you go from there.”
Both Lawson and Flynn are very impressive and you can bet that Donnie Walsh will pinpoint exactly what the team needs. You’d still have to figure that Rubio, Jrue Holiday and Stephen Curry are on top of that list, but if all are gone and Walsh wants a real quarterback to drive Mike D’Antoni’s offense, you’d think that today’s workout will have a big part in who he selects should that situation present itself.
Interestingly, Chad Ford has Ty Lawson going 24th to the Blazers.
Tomorrow, Dionte Chrismas (Temple), B.J. Mullins (Ohio State), and Rashaad Singleton (Georgia) will join Gerald Henderson, Jrue Holiday and Stephen Curry.
For all you Big East or, more specifically, Villanova fans, Cunningham is hearing interest from Miami, Detroit and San Antonio. Root for the latter, as he’d be a great, lanky, high IQ and active big man who could eventually see rotation minutes. Players like that excel on good teams. Heck, a young [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] made a nice living out of that and Cunningham has a higher ceiling for me.
Lawson, officially put the comparisons to Ray Felton to bed…
Flynn on Lawson’s workout: “I didn’t know he was that athletic….he’s one of the fastest guys I’ve ever seen with the ball…”
Flynn on D’Antoni’s system: “Every basketball player’s type of offense. Most players grow up playing games where shots go up in 10 seconds and to have a coach…”
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]Jonny Flynn came in smiling, almost giddy to be wearing the colors of his favorite team.
"I grew up a die-hard Knicks fan, dating back to the Miami-New York series when they had people swinging from people’s legs and things like that," the Syracuse floor general said after his predraft workout with the Knicks Tuesday at the MSG Training Center. "It would mean a lot for me to stay home.”
Across the room was Ty Lawson sitting in a chair with an obvious chip on his shoulder and mentioned, by name, ESPN mock draftologist Chad Ford, among others who are not ranking him higher among the point guards in this draft. Ford has Lawson going No. 24 (Portland).
“People say I’m injury prone and too short," Lawson said. "I mean, we’re just going to see what happens on draft day and after the draft. I’ll prove everybody wrong.”
The two point guards were the headliners among six players (Dante Cunningham, Toney Douglas, Leo Lyons and Tywain McKee) the Knicks looked at on Tuesday. They will bring in six more Wednesday, led by another pair of point guards in Stephen Curry and Jrue Holiday. Temple's Dionte Christmas, Duke's Gerald Henderson and a pair of seven-footers in B.J. Mullens (Ohio State) and Rashaad Singleton (Georgia) will also be in the group.
Lawson and Flynn are the smallest players in the draft, according to the combine results, but they both are more of the old-school floor general types that someone like Donnie Walsh can appreciate. Flynn caught everyone's attention after his memorable performance in the six-overtime epic against UConn during the Big East Tournament at the Garden. Lawson led a loaded North Carolina squad to back-to-back Final Four appearances and this year's NCAA title.
And both have solid frames and are explosive enough to dunk. And, as Lawson said, “You can make up size with speed.”
Ty Lawson has become one of the most underrated players in this draft. He's top 10 material, I don't understand how he's projected to go in the 20's. If we draft him, I would be very happy.
smh @ going for a pg, poor knick fans
i hope they put aside a week for sg's and big men tho, but lookin at it now very few are slightly impressive at most
this looks like a ****ty draft tbh
yep! **** N8 & **** Duhon.
I like N8, but I couldn't stand him @ the 1 for a whole season. He's too wrapped up in his appeal to be a pass first player. His shot is NOT consistent enough to be a 2nd option scorer and a play maker as one.
His royal hanus Isiah Thomas, Tim Hardaway, N8 Archibald, CP3 even Magic are the only players I've ever seen be really successful at winning while dividing the play maker/2nd go to scorer.
N8 hasn't got that edge. He's a bench player plain and simple. I'm not hating on him though.
We do need a big, but who can we honestly say is worth drafting bar Thabeet as a starting 5 man? Someone we can at least realistically acquire.
Get 'em while they're hot.
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on another note, like i said b4, u dont start duhon at pg when u have a better and quicker dribbler who can also put up points. this is just an example of professional sports ****ups. there is no doubt nate can pass, puttin up 4apg off the bench and easily bein able to do pick & roll and dish inside.
the many times duhon is not able to beat his man off the dribble, they rely on pick & rolls and off-ball screens. those obv wont always be available if theres good defense. in those situations u would have another option in nate who is pretty much unstoppable 1-on-1 for penetration plays like rafer alston or chris paul.
with that said, there is no one other than rubio worth gettin. rubio n nate as startin backcourt tho would be incredible. if that can happen, im immediately gettin a 20-gm tickets package. otherwise, no one else is ****in with nate i dont care what excuses u guys or pro coachin staff make. "oh he's too erratic" "not really a pg!"
the funniest thing about all this nonsense about ball hoggin and poor passin is that nate averages only 1.52 TO's per game realize this and snap back into reality
all these posts make me wanna now
I do hope nate gets re-signed. He has shown glimpses of being a pretty good point. But for him to quiet his critics he will have to show it for a full season. Hopefully he gets a shot at being our starting PG.
Nate's a nice bench player, nothing more. He shoots 43 percent from the field, and ranks 44th in the NBA in assist to turnover ratio. He is not a starting PG. He is a 5'9 combo guard, who cannot be trusted to be your main floor general and distributer. He cannot compare to any of the top PG's in this draft.
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looks like if the knicks stay put at 8 they're going to choose between Jrue, Ty, Curry, and Flynn not bad at all. i would'nt be mad
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and us getting the 2 pick is real likely we just gotta sweeten the deal a little, and hey rubio is worth it.