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    Default Knicks Wizards Trade Talk Continues to Heat Up (Not for the 5th Pick)

    I'm not big up on all these players being traded (they're all pretty arbage anyway) but if we can somehow scoop up the 5th pick and we hand them our 8th, I'd pull the trigger on this deal today.....


    Shedding Jeffries contract is a big plus through this trade anyhow.


    Why in the world would anyone want Jeffries AND Hughes



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    Following up on that Knicks-Wizards rumor involving the fifth overall pick:


    There have been recent conversations between the teams about players, mainly ones the Wizards are interested in on the Knicks roster. But what may come as a surprise is that Wilson Chandler doesn't appear to be the main ingredient here. In fact, from multiple sources with knowledge of the Wizards' strategizing, they're the ones who have inquired about two former Wiz players, Larry Hughes and Jared Jeffries.




    The Knicks are all ears.
    Washington tried to trade for Hughes (for Mike James and Etan Thomas) during the past season, when he was still with Chicago and they asked about Jeffries before the trade deadline. Both were key members of the 2004-05 Washington team that reached the second round of the playoffs. Hughes and Gilbert Arenas were a strong backcourt and some within the Wizards braintrust feel they missed Jeffries more than they thought they would after he took that mid-level exception offer sheet from Isiah Thomas in 2006. The Wizards feel they have a small window of opportunity with their core of Arenas, Caron Butler and Antawn Jamison and want to build a strong supporting cast of veterans to make a run.




    The Knicks wouldn't mind shedding Hughes' contract, though it has one year left with a team-high $13.6M pricetag. They could consider th at same James/Thomas scenario because both players are also in expiring deals. James ($6.4M) is a shooter (and a Long Islander) whom the Knicks could use and the 6-10 Thomas ($7.3M) provides size, grit and rebounding depth in the frontcourt.


    Jeffries, of course, is the big one to move, with $6.4M next season and a critical $6.8M against the salary cap in 2010-11. The Knicks almost moved him to the Kings at the trade deadline and, according to a source, recently were close to something with the Toronto Raptors that fell through when the Raps turned it down.


    And, aware that the Wizards aren't that excited about anything they see at No. 5, the Knicks too the opportunity ask about the pick. It may have been suggested that Chandler is the only young asset the team could offer in return that may interest Ernie Grunfeld for the pick, but it was not something the Knicks offered. At this point, it doesn't appear to be anything more than a speculative scenario.


    But that five-spot is valuable to the Knicks because, presumably, they would snatch Stephen Curry there before anyone else gets their grubby hands on him. But we're starting to get skeptical here, mainly because of Curry's quick about-face when it comes to workouts. Initially, after his workout with the Knicks, Curry's father said his son was shutting it down. Then within a day it was decided that he will, in fact, participate in more workouts.


    Why the sudden change of mind? Did he not get the guarantee from the Knicks he had hoped to get? Perhaps without a guarantee at No. 8, Curry didn't want to give up potential opportunity -- and money -- from interested teams in the top five. So off to Sacramento he went this weekend.


    Just bloggin.


    As Starberman predicted, UCLA's Jrue Holiday will be back for his second workout with the Knicks on Monday, among a five-player group of second-round/summer league invite types. Instead of Curry, this time Holiday will go up against Miami senior Jack McClinton (6-1, 185). Others in the group include Gonzaga center Josh Heytfelt, Santa Clara center John Bryant and a pair of swingmen in Rodney Alexander (Oklahoma City University) and Lorrenzo Wade (San Diego State).


    The second look at Holiday should be noted, because the Knicks were high on the 6-3 freshman, but he had an admittedly underwhelming workout on June 10. You generally bring a kid back to make sure you're ready to pass on him, in case you have to decide. And right now I would venture a guess that Tyreke Evans is ahead of Holiday on the Knicks draft board. Evans is solidly-build, should be able to defend and can play the pick-and-roll real well. One thing the Memphis guard did during his workout on June 15 was prove he can shoot the rock. If Holiday continues to struggle with his stroke and leaves enough doubt, Evans and Curry would be my best bets as favorites at No. 8.



    I've consistently touted Curry as the best fit in this draft for the Knicks needs in the system Mike D'Antoni runs. While Evans has serious potential, he's just too ball-dominant. But perhaps as a two-guard, once he learns the philosophies of quick decisions, constant motion and catch-and-shoot mentality, he will fit well.


    It is highly unlikely both he and Curry will be there and, of course, very possible neither will be available by the 8th pick. Another reason to give a second look to Holiday. And don't overlook Ty Lawson here. If neither Curry and Evans are there and Holiday continues to underwhelm, Lawson, the true floor general and proven winner who [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], may be in play.


    Ricky Rubio and his camp were reportedly finalizing a buyout agreement with his Spanish team, DKV Joventut, which places in bold letters Rubio's intention to play in the NBA next season. Very interesting development there, as he will be the focal point of some serious debates in the war rooms for Memphis, Oklahoma City and Sacramento.


    Much more to come on Monday . .

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    That was some good info. I'm really starting to dig the idea of drafting evans the more videos I watch on him the better he is dude has a lot of game and even more potential and with this system hell be an allstar in no time once he gets some experience hell be a force he's the guy I want as of now. Followed by lawson either one of those and I'm happy

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    one thing about chandler for the 5th; and the notion some might have that his cieling isn't that great(that i might have had as well), and /or his handle and jumpshot isn't that good, is, that having him and gallo at the 2/3, they cancel each others faults very well for the most part.gallo can handle the ball, he is a legitimate point forward, and we all know his jiddy is aqua, so we don't have to worry about that.

    what this team needs to do, is get rid of these players that are taking minutes away from them.

    I'll be perfctly happy if we retain the core of
    chandler2/gallinari3/lee4.

    the issue is the 2 most important positions on the floor have gigantic holes.

    if we come away with a pg be it rubio/flynn/curry/holiday/jennings/lawson
    (though I've grown sour on holiday getting taxed by curry)

    and a young C be it threw trade or draft in jordan or mullens, THAT IS A GREAT DRAFT; THOSE POSITIONS NEED TO BE FILLED.

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    FORGET Chandler for the 5th; that aint happening.

    Sounds to me like it would be something like this:

    WAS gets the #8th pick, Jeffries & Hughes

    &

    NYK gets the #5th pick, along with James & Thomas



    You would have to do it. Would ensure we get either Rubio, Curry or Evans, along with getting from under Jeffries 2010 committment.

    Be a nice start to the summer, no?

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    Originally Posted by mafra
    FORGET Chandler for the 5th; that aint happening.

    Sounds to me like it would be something like this:

    WAS gets the #8th pick, Jeffries & Hughes

    &

    NYK gets the #5th pick, along with James & Thomas



    You would have to do it. Would ensure we get either Rubio, Curry or Evans, along with getting from under Jeffries 2010 committment.

    Be a nice start to the summer, no?
    That would be an awesome trade! I was thinking Was gets: Chandler, Hughes, Jefferies NYK gets: James, Thomas, 5th pick Then the Knicks trade Curry and 8th for a 2010 draft pick! ...one can dream?

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    Get it done Donnie!!

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    Chandler, Hughes, Jeffries
    for
    5th pick and the expiring deals of Etan Thomas and Mike James

    We would get another pick and rid ourselves of Jeffries' two years on the cap.

    this is a no-brainer... it would facilitate us getting rid of Eddy Curry and probably allows us to move up and grab either Thabeet, Rubio or Stephen Curry (probably even two of those 3)

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    Originally Posted by TheBig****
    That would be an awesome trade! I was thinking Was gets: Chandler, Hughes, Jefferies NYK gets: James, Thomas, 5th pick Then the Knicks trade Curry and 8th for a 2010 draft pick! ...one can dream?
    If Knicks got rid of Chandler, and then not even draft a 1st this year?

    How-Why would Lebron or anyone want to come to NY? To play with whom?

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    Originally Posted by mafra
    If Knicks got rid of Chandler, and then not even draft a 1st this year?

    How-Why would Lebron or anyone want to come to NY? To play with whom?
    Maybe you mis-read it? (Or assumed I meant Stephon Curry...I meant Eddy)

    Knicks get:
    James
    Thomas
    5th overall pick

    Washington gets:
    Chandler
    Jefferies
    Hughes

    Then by magic we trade Eddy Curry and the 8th overall pick for a 2010 1st rounder.

    Dream Scenario 2010
    PG: Rubio
    SG: 2010 1st rounder
    SF: James
    PF: Lee
    C: Stodimire

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    Originally Posted by TheBig****
    Maybe you mis-read it? (Or assumed I meant Stephon Curry...I meant Eddy)

    Knicks get:
    James
    Thomas
    5th overall pick

    Washington gets:
    Chandler
    Jefferies
    Hughes

    Then by magic we trade Eddy Curry and the 8th overall pick for a 2010 1st rounder.

    Dream Scenario 2010
    PG: Rubio
    SG: 2010 1st rounder
    SF: James
    PF: Lee
    C: Stodimire

    OH! That sounds much better. We have to draft a player this year.... I get it now. That would be very nice.

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