Knicks still in hunt for Ricky Rubio
June 26, 2009
The Knicks are about to officially enter the Ricky Rubio sweepstakes.
Donnie Walsh revealed on Friday that he intends to call his former assistant, Minnesota GM David Kahn, about the availability of Rubio, the fifth overall pick from Thursday's NBA Draft.
Rubio, the highly touted point guard from Spain, would prefer to play in New York. Rubio's father told Marca.com that his son may elect to stay with his club team in Spain for at least another two years.
Minnesota drafted three point guards in the first round, including Jonny Flynn at six. They also drafted Ty Lawson but traded him to Denver. The Knicks could have the inside track on Rubio for several reasons. For one, he wants to play in New York. The other is Walsh's relationship with Kahn that dates back to their days with the Indiana Pacers.
Perhaps the Knicks can work out a multi-player deal where they'll trade at least Wilson Chandler to get Rubio. The Knicks may have to include Jordan Hill and take back the contract of Brian Cardinal.
Hill was drafted eighth overall and the Knicks also traded to get the 29th pick, point guard Toney Douglas from Florida State. Douglas, by the way, will wear No. 23 which was vacated when Quentin Richardson was traded for Dark Milicic. Of course, Douglas is only renting that number until LeBron James signs with the Knicks in 13 months.
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Rubio talk continues to linger
OK, where there's smoke, there's usually fire. But this Ricky Rubio thing is more of a smolder. And on Friday Donnie Walsh blew on the embers to keep them glowing a little, though his rare transparency was curious.
On the day the Knicks introduced first round picks Jordan Hill and Toney Douglas to the media at the MSG Training Center, Walsh acknowledged that he planned to call his former protege, Timberwolves president David Kahn, to check in on the situation involving his decision to select two point guards -- Ricky Rubio and Jonny Flynn -- with back-to-back picks at No. 5 and 6.
“I haven’t spoken to Minnesota, I will," Walsh said. "I don’t know what’s going on there. He took a lot of point guards so I want to ask him, ‘Why did you do that?’ In a way that kind of helped us because that left us with two players that were, in our mind, really good players. I just want to find out.”
Walsh said Rubio was "very high" on the Knicks draft board but when asked if he would have selected the Spanish guard if he were there at No. 8, Walsh replied, “We would have considered a lot of people at eight, but tht would have meant that the guy that we got would have been gone.”
Multiple sources have said that Rubio was not as highly-regarded by the Knicks as Stephen Curry and Tyreke Evans and perhaps not as much as Hill, whom some Knick scouts touted as the second-best player in the draft. But if there is a chance Rubio -- whose father told a Spanish media outlet that his son will most likely remain in Spain for two years (until his current contract with DKV Joventut expires) -- could be acquired for a relatively cheap cost, it's worth a look.
But before we explore the options, you should know that Kahn was on with Mike & Mike on ESPN Radio this morning and vehemently denied any intentions to trade Rubio. Kahn said he was quite aware that Rubio might decide not to report and that's why he took Flynn with the very next pick. The T-Wolves can play Flynn now and take their time dealing with the Rubio situation.
Rubio we're told was desperately hopeful he would somehow wind up with the Knicks and, apparently, is still holding out hope. It is pretty clear that he would immediately report if the Knicks acquired his rights.
But, though Walsh says he will check it out, it is still very unlikely to happen.
I just want to know... If this goes down, will all the Donnie Haters bow down and humble themselves?
Peep the sig my nig!!!! Bye Q, Curry and Jeffries next!
As soon as the Wolves picked back 2 back PG's, we all knew Kahn and Walsh had something in the making. We've been talking about Rubio for like 2 years, this is the closest we can get to him. Kahn pals with Walsh, gotta like the chances. Gotta wait til Wed. July 1st.
Yeah baby!After Ricky Rubio skipped his introductory press conference with the Wolves, Marca.com says that discussions on a possible trade to send Rubio to the Knicks are under way.
The report cites sign-and-trades of David Lee and Nate Robinson although such a deal could not be consummated until after the July moratorium is lifted.
Marca.com says it can confirm these negotiations to send Rubio to New York but there is no way to independently verify the report.
Marc Berman reports on the situation in his New York Post blog.
"The Knicks privately believe Rubio wants to be in New York and his agent Dan Fegan will work hard to make that happen," writes Berman. "The Knicks have intricate knowledge of Rubio's buyout contract; their European scout, Kevin Wilson, lives in Barcelona and is friends of the family."
Berman also says that the Knicks "believe" that Rubio's contract buyout, currently standing at $6.5 million, "can easily be worked out."
According to Berman's source, Rubio's camp "is hopeful the Knicks move in and strike a deal with the T'wolves."
Here's the problem:
How does this trade work under the Stern rules? If we sign-&-deal Lee & Nate.... That's like what? 8-9 mil a year for Lee, 4-6 a year for Nate? Rubio gets signed under slot for his pick? Would the $ match up?
I do think MIN moved up to 5 to position themselves for Lee or Nate.
I think Jefferson, Love, Lee & Gomes, along with Nate, Flynn, Ellington is a nice foundation.
Maybe somebody else offers a better package; or maybe they want Wilson Chandler & Nate instead?
Anyway.... I figured Rubio was trade bait when they drafted Flynn.... As soon as the GM started yipping-&-yapping, I'm all but sure he's being dealt now.
Who knows right?
BUT, when you have Jefferson.... You do not want to wait 2-3 years to compete! Not in the NBA.
w/ super 6th man Nate .... sounds like a plan, no?
nate CANNOT go, if it's too much for me to think he'd be a great startin PG, they need to just deal lee and chandler for rubio and just continue havin nate as 6th man, 28-30 mpg, pg & sg backup
nate is just too good to be let go
its amazin when nate's only real weakness is fightin off screens and so many knick 'fans' still complain, so quick to let him go. overall he's too dynamic and is worth every penny TBFH
i dont mind rubio startin, as his dribble is up to par with nate's, but nate is proven and he has YET to be given starter privileges, which is prolly one of biggest disgraces in sports history, and yet he still schoolin the best in the nba
N8 > chandler & lee
Well Nate has a lot more weaknesses than you listed but I still like him as a player and a 6th man. He just has to work on some of those moments where he makes really bad decisions because those are very disappointing.
every player makes bad decisions...superstar, role player, bench guy, whoever
its like bein mad about findin a black spot on a potato
and ironically he also averages one of the fewest TO's, 1.50 career, through 30 mpg, FAR LESS than yall favorite superstar guards....so in actuality he doesnt make as many bad decisions as every1 makes it seem
this **** is ridiculous what else does he have to prove to deserve to start???
thats how the nba goes, its ****in pthetic
if courtney lee can start for the magic and all these other rookies can too, nate should be given a chance, he's a beast case closed
im startin to think he should be traded where some1 will actually start him @ pg cuz knicks and most yall are isiahs illiegitamate children
Stern has to step up in this situation fast! I mean right he should call Wolves GM and tell him to trade Rubio to us because it would make sense for all parties involve. When an opponent player from Spain comes to the garden, Spaniards fill up the joint with flags and chants the whole night. Business wise is good for the Knicks to have a markee player in Rubio which is good for the NBA. If Rubio is not traded he won't come to the US until his deal in Spain expiress which is in two years. Somebody has to get some senses to Kahn ASAP. This whole notion of assests is ridiculous because he traded two very good basketball players for absolutely nothing for a team that won only 24 games.
Walsh should give Kahn Chandler, Future First Round Picks in 2011, 2013, 2015, Jordan Hill for Ricky Rubio and a throwing to match contracts.
Damn this should be enough to satisfy all parties involve! The Knicks had been shopping Chandler before the draft so trading him here wouldn't be the end of the world. In essence we give the Wolves 4 players for 1, while giving them two very good defensive players to help Love and Jefferson make the a run to the playoffs in at least two years.
Idiot by getting Rubio here Lebron and other superstars will follow. You must have been of those fans that wouldn't give Lakers Lee, Nate, Balkman, draft picks for Kobe Bryant when he wanted out! You have to give Wolves a couple of extra players to justify them trading Miller and Foye for the the #5 slot.
I would do Chandler, 1 future firstround pick, mobleys contract and some trade exceptions.