PUMP YOUR BREAKS COWBOY!
First off I am not failing to recognize what Toney brings to the table, he is good defensive player who does indeed have the ability to knock down shots. I loved what he did for us against HOU. today
Futhermore my reply was actully posted before The Philly game..... yet I have seen enough basketball to know that a string of good games does not equate to a solid NBA career, I mean Renaldo Balkman won at least 3 games for us with his defense and hustle his rookie season and where is he now? Larry Brown called Jackie Butler a difference maker to games on a few occasions his rookie season.
The funny thing is that you point out him playing well despite barely playing this year as an attribute, but Mardy Collins instantly comes to mind here, remember how good he looked at the end of his rookie season, the kid was putting up sick numbers -I think he flirted with a triple double like 3 times- now look at him.
Look I do not dislike Toney Douglas, I would love to be wrong, but I'm just not that easily gassed off a few good games, especially at the end of the season on a team that isnt going anywhere
Toney Douglas=Tony Delk (not at all an insult!)
Toney Douglas=Frank Williams
Yeah. You can't expect Toney Douglas to put up those kinds of numbers on a regular basis just yet. It took a while before we all realized Darren Collison was the real thing, and indeed Douglas will need to play well next year in order to really be worth keeping.
I mean, we all thought Chris Duhon was pretty decent his first few months here...
My take on the whole Douglas thing is this... I am a basketball purist and I can't stand the whole tweener thing... I WANT TO WATCH a PURE POINT GUARD play in NYC the birthplace of great point guards. I don't want to watch some 6' tall shooting guard trapped in a point guards body...i'm sick of that stuff...the Iverson's the monta ellis' the Aaron brooks the Jamal Crawford's.... You just don't win with this type of defeciency when you try and put forth the best team possible. Sure he's performing nice in his little stretch starting right now but it's a flawed success. He's on a bad team and in the last 5 games they played the sixer's twice and barely won both games. Also of note is the Knicks haven't surpassed the 100 point mark in 3 games. They aren't running at all and I know this has to be eating at D'antoni. Mike believes in his brand of basketball and still thinks ssol is a recipe for success and I don't see him bagging his philosophy next year to cater to a 2nd year guard's weaknesses just to let him score his 20 points a game as the knicks put up 92 points in a loss. This team will be completely overhauled this summer. I see only Gallo and Chandler at the very most in the starting 5 next year.
I also want to make some comparison's of who Toney reminds me of that I haven't heard:
his career totals were 12ppg,3.3assts,3.2reb and 1 steal in 24.7mpg
Fisher 9ppg,3.2asst,2.2reb and 1.1 steals in 26.1 mpg...
But Johnson's 2 career years he averaged 15ppg,3asst and 4 rebounds
Fisher's career year 13ppg 4asst 2 reb and he only put up numbers like those once.
AND come on man the microwave is from brooklyn and pretty much started the whole sixth man trend....
I think you think he will be a Chris Duhon part 2....paranoia has sunk in to most Knick fans I know...we have not had PG success in years...Toney has a different mentality from most players on this team...when Toney sees a game going the wrong direction he will take the opportunity for himself to help out and take over...Collins never did that...Gallo rarely does that...Lee has even vanished in some 4th quarters this year....Duhon is Mike D's puppet and jsut drives to pass the ball to the 3 point line or try the pick and roll with Lee a thousand times every game....Toney mixes it up and gets involved when you need a turn around the most....
This is why I think that saying he will be Mardy Collins or Frank Williams is just false judgment and a harsh one in fact.
I'm just glad management purchased the pick from the Lakers, it helps to cope with the loss of Hill.
TD's defense is sick and that right there is worth a lot in a team that doesnt play D for ****. The great thing is that he can put the rock in the hole. He might not be an all-star but he will be solid. The comparisons are a bit too premature i think.
I have never made a comment about "not liking" Toney Douglas, like you said what is there not to like about him.
What I am saying to you is that we need to reserve the "PG of the future talk" for now.
Let him do all these things for 50 or more games in a season and then we can talk. I frankly do not think he has played enough to give an accurate assessment on either way.
I like you respect his heart and hustle....it takes more than that, just ask Nate Robinson!