Is A.I. playing for 20 M now? Hughes will play for a few million or he may retire and enjoy his family. He was brought here for Defense and the expiring contract. If NY gives him anything over 3 million I would be shocked. If he took it, I would be more shocked, but who knows. When you earn about $70,000 a night for the last five years and live conservative as Hughes has during 12 years in the league, he his going to play where he finds the best match, not just money at this point. It's love of the game here, not leading Cleveland or L.A. to the finals. Do you think Shaq is playing for money? You say he is trying his best? You have never watched Hughes or looked at his states over the past 11 years?
Go look at his stats, he is playing the same for nearly 12 years in the league. This year is no different than others. Your trying to pin money on him, it won't stick, the numbers are the same. At this point, unless a player is broke (which happens to some) these guys play for the love of the game.
With the average length of a NBA career about 3.5 years, Hughes has done very well financially. He will play to contribute, win, and have fun.
He asked to contribute at Chicago while he was DNP for half a season. But his stats there, when playing, are close as they are all the time during his whole career, what figure is down?
If you give him 30 plus minutes per game, he will give you the same numbers. If you take him in and out, it kills his game and shot. D'Antonio puts him in, they Knicks go up 14, he pulls him, it gets close again, Larry goes back in, then you blame him for not being perfect. Out of bounds, look at the turnover rates, isn't he one of the lowest. Doesn't he get the most steals, where is the credit there. He still has speed to cover the passing lanes in year 12. Watch how he puts on all his sweats when D' Antonio pulls him out, then puts a a couple of towels over his legs. Many players like Hughes, cannot go in and out of a game and get their shot. Nor do they get it in practice. Cleveland, not too many other players even touch the ball. Hughes has always said he needs 30 plus minutes a couple times a week to get his shot on. I think NY is getting their money's worth and getting some good leadership, defense, assist.
At this point, he is behind the wheel on his career. Don't think someone is going to pick him up and give much for 50 games. If they do and he learns the offense and the team, your down to 30 games. Then, he is on his own come April May June. 12 years, no matter what age is a lot of miles on those legs in the NBA, regardless of age. Besides maybe Nash, tell me how many starting guards playing over 30 minutes are in the NBA after a decade?
You only need 1 hand, and you will never see Duhon, Douglas, Robinson and I doubt Paul will make it in this group.
Don't try to prove me that he's so magnificent, I saw his stats - yea they're admirable when he was avg 22 ppg and 2.9 spg and 5.9 apg but we're not about past so look at the present game logs ( 15 games below 10 points for example ), maybe I should say he is just doing his best not trying, but the thread is about keeping him and the bottom line is: not to keep larry. As I remember and as I said, nyk wanted MOBLEY , but his retirement forced them to play more Larry, tell me if I am wrong ? The question in this thread is also quite ridiculous propably nobody thinks about longer future with Larry, his contract expire, his stats are regular for 12 years - ok after this season Knicks goal is huge salary cap in 2010 so we'll let him play and then let him go away. So for him it was also a chance, imagine: Cuttino wasn't retire, could he play his 30 minute, I don't think so. In this case how he could have fun and keep stats on HIS high level ? Nevertheless I'm not interesting on his retirement or playing for fun not for money in the future, but I don't understand what's wrong in my opinion that he keep doing best for opportunity to stay hot for another team? ( especially as posted below when he's a bum hah and by his best I mean avg 20 pts ) Is it mutually exclusive with his 12 years stats and his love to the game as You describe his attitude
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We got LBJ maniacs but IMO with or without him KNICKS won't be able to compete at the highest PO level if they don't get sensible support. Summer free agents bonanza will give all the answers.
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Larry Hughes is a bum. It is no coincidence that the Chicago Bulls traded him for Jerome James.
More years in the league is purely his choice. Hughes is one smart player with a heart of gold toward kids. How many years have you played in the league? Your game one of the top 400 on the rock son?
Larry Hughes assisted his mother, while she worked two jobs take care of his brother most of his grade and high school years. Think of him as a nurse to his younger brother battling for his life.
His only brother needed a new heart. A match finally came and Larry did not want to leave St. Louis to be with his brother and assist his mother. He played for St. Louis University, the transplant was completed. With tremendous medical bills, Larry became the 6th pick in the NBA at the age of 18 and took care of the family. His mother truly wanted him to get his degree.
During the Eastern finals a few years ago, Larry's only brother passed due to complications. Lebron James and Larry playing a point guard at 6 foot 5, got the Cavs through the East, and Chauncy Billips. They lost four straight against San Antonio. The Cavs have never been back. Hughes can play one hell of a point guard. Larry was given the Austin Carr award in Cleveland, for the player with the best achievement on and off the court including the community. He has frequent transplant awareness fund raisers and is known in the cities he has played to tell the gas stations to give free gas for the full day to help people out. No, Larry Hughes is no bum my friend, maybe not a superstar scorer in your eyes, but a defensive player that coaches and those with true judges of talent have kept him in the NBA for a dozen years at the age of 30. Watch who covers D-Wade, Kobie, LeBron, CP3 and watch their game be down. Ever in trouble on or off the court, never. How was he notified of the trade to New York? A text message. Class move of the Bulls that maybe someone can see how Michael and Scottie have distanced themselves from. Not traded for Jerome James, but Walsh wanted to have someone show defense to some young players and free up money for 2010. Larry Hughes is a role model for my children, he is not a superstar, they know that life is more than just a game, and here is someone that has challenged adversity numerous times in his life and continues to give back to any community he is involved or living in.
Even recent adversities including dealing with his wife having a brain aneurysm in hear late twenties with three young children. He is a good man, with a long career, even leading the league in steals one year and has been very charitable to helping people realize what can be done to help transplant patients and their families. To say what you keystroke so quickly is leaves much to be desired.
St. Louis has also given you David Lee, another great role model who's family is one who is very charitable to St. Louis. Pure work ethic got Lee at 6 foot 7 where he is. Also, Clyde Frasier, from just across the river at Southern Illinois University has gave some good contributions to the Knicks as another St. Louis player, Senator Bill Bradley.
If you can get all that done by age 30 and sink 10,000 points, and be a gentleman, maybe you can be a "bum", for some reason, I doubt it?
yup, bum is too pejorative for you so maybe well-traveled Larry
The list is small my friend of those who have accomplished this. Wherever you may live, see if you can come up with 5 from your state in it's history?
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