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    Rumor Knicks/Bulls In Discussions For Tyrus Thomas

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    “…As Thomas has rehabbed a broken forearm, the Bulls have had discussions with several teams, but perhaps none as serious as the ongoing dialogue general manager Gar Forman has had with [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] president Donnie Walsh.Several sources believe the Bulls are agreeable to a package of Thomas and [Only registered and activated users can see links. ][Only registered and activated users can see links. ] for Knicks forward [Only registered and activated users can see links. ][Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. Thus far, Walsh has resisted parting with Harrington, but discussions are still active and the teams have explored different combinations in recent days that would ultimately deliver Thomas to the Knicks.
    “Nothing is imminent, but both sides would like to figure out a way to do this,” one league executive briefed on the talks told Yahoo! Sports…”






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    Not this James please, not again!

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    That's an intriguing trade, I would do it if we could get Chicago's #1 pick this year.

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    Originally Posted by Ewing
    Not this James please, not again!

    james is just bad news. we don't want this guy. If his contract is expiring then i see no reason to say no, but if this eats into 2010 space then there's no way it should happen.

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    jerome james has got an expiring contract, the knicks wouldnt even THINK about this deal if he didnt. seriously it would pain me to see this guy sitting on the bench, or even be part of the knicks for a second. if we do pull the trade, RELEASE the fatass immeadietely. i want no part of that fatass slut's uselessness around the lockerroom. and harrington has been good, itd be hard to part with him. but heres a quote from yahoo...

    "The Bulls believe Harrington’s ability to score coupled with a $10.2 million expiring contract make this a worthy exchange. Knicks coach Mike D’Antoni has long been fond of Thomas, a 6-foot-9 forward whose nimbleness and athleticism makes him an intriguing fit for New York.
    Thomas, 23, was the fourth pick in the 2006 NBA draft, and started to fulfill his promise with 10.9 points and 6.4 rebounds last season. Nevertheless, Chicago believes it has a worthy power forward successor on the cheap in rookie [Only registered and activated users can see links. ][Only registered and activated users can see links. ], and jettisoning Thomas would also eliminate his approximate $13 million cap hold for the Bulls next summer."

    hmm well thomas is a free agent this year 2 i guess, if i had to make the choice id say yes. d'antoni likes him, even though harrington has been impressive. who knows it might make us better, because we have a lot of high volume shooter, harrington being the biggest one.

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    No thanks..I'd rather get a late 1st round pick/early 2nd round pick than Tyrus Thomas who would require signing long term to an undeserving 10+mil/year contract after this season.

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    Originally Posted by tiger0330
    That's an intriguing trade, I would do it if we could get Chicago's #1 pick this year.
    I would love to get a pick from Chicago with Thomas, but it would be hard to get rid of Harrington who has been our spark plug off the bench since Nate burned out.

    I know for a fact that Donnie Walsh would not take fat ass back from the Bulls, he's utterly useless. Isn't that why we got rid of him in the Larry Hughes deal anyway. But I hope we can get somebody else with Thomas instead of James like Kirk Himrich. He used to be a starter before they drafted Rose, and can pick up the work Duhon hasn't done. I really pray to God that Chicago doesn't rape us in ANOTHER trade

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    This trade makes no sense.

    1.) We give Chicago more cap space to compete with us in 2010. In fact I think this gives them more cap space than us...and have a much better team than us...they could sign Wade and Bosh while already having Rose...not fair and stupid for Walsh to do.

    2.) Thomas is an expiring contract. We can't afford to retain his Bird Rights.

    3.) We already have Lee

    4.) Thomas doesn't really fit into D'Antoni's system as a PF. He can run the floor well but his outside shot is worse than Harringtons.

    *edit* 5.) We have Hill

    I don't get it!

    The only way this trade should go through is if they take Jeffries and we get Hinrich too...or if we get a 1st round unprotected pick. Otherwise, this is just a stupid trade.
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    Full article:

    Bulls weigh trade options for Thomas

    By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports
    12 hours, 7 minutes ago


    So far, NBA general managers are still passing judgment on their own teams, evaluating needs and slowly, surely feeling out the market. The February trade deadline is more than two months away, but conversations are beginning to gather momentum.

    For starters, multiple league executives believe the Chicago Bulls’ shopping of forward Tyrus Thomas(notes) could result with him moving sooner than later. As Thomas has rehabbed a broken forearm, the Bulls have had discussions with several teams, but perhaps none as serious as the ongoing dialogue general manager Gar Forman has had with New York Knicks president Donnie Walsh.

    Several sources believe the Bulls are agreeable to a package of Thomas and Jerome James(notes) for Knicks forward Al Harrington(notes). Thus far, Walsh has resisted parting with Harrington, but discussions are still active and the teams have explored different combinations in recent days that would ultimately deliver Thomas to the Knicks.

    “Nothing is imminent, but both sides would like to figure out a way to do this,” one league executive briefed on the talks told Yahoo! Sports.

    The Bulls believe Harrington’s ability to score coupled with a $10.2 million expiring contract make this a worthy exchange. Knicks coach Mike D’Antoni has long been fond of Thomas, a 6-foot-9 forward whose nimbleness and athleticism makes him an intriguing fit for New York.

    Thomas, 23, was the fourth pick in the 2006 NBA draft, and started to fulfill his promise with 10.9 points and 6.4 rebounds last season. Nevertheless, Chicago believes it has a worthy power forward successor on the cheap in rookie Taj Gibson(notes), and jettisoning Thomas would also eliminate his approximate $13 million cap hold for the Bulls next summer.

    Thomas’ agent, Brian Elfus, tried to negotiate a contract extension with Chicago, but talks never pushed past perfunctory.

    Here are other teams that front-office officials, coaches and agent say are active in talks.

    Portland: Since Travis Outlaw(notes) has been lost for four to five months with foot surgery, GM Kevin Pritchard has been working the phones for an athletic forward as a replacement.

    That isn’t much of a surprise, but this is: In conversations with Portland’s front office and coaching staffs, several league officials believe Andre Miller(notes) could soon be available. As a free-agent signee over the summer, Miller can’t be traded until Dec. 15.

    After missing out on several preferred free agents, Pritchard settled for Miller and signed him to a three-year, $21 million contract, the first two years of which are guaranteed. Yet, Blazers coaches have privately insisted to confidants throughout the league that Miller isn’t working out, and the belief is that Pritchard is testing the market on Miller’s worth. Portland could stay with Steve Blake(notes) or use Miller to bring back another playmaker.

    Sources say that Brandon Roy(notes) clearly prefers playing with Blake over Miller, and that’s an issue that Pritchard must contend with.

    Houston: The Rockets continue to offer Tracy McGrady(notes) in a trade, but that will be a difficult proposition considering he’s the highest-paid player in the league ($23.2 million) and no one has seen him play in nine months. Houston seems willing to take back a longer-term contract for McGrady, but most executives believe his high salary makes it hard to put together a package.

    Rockets GM Daryl Morey and coach Rick Adelman don’t want McGrady back with the team, and have insisted that he isn’t physically ready to return to the lineup. McGrady would love a trade, but knows he must start playing again for it to be possible.

    Philadelphia: Sixers GM Ed Stefanski is desperate to unload forward Elton Brand(notes) and the $66 million owed over the remaining four years of his crippling contract, sources say, but that will be incredibly difficult. Even with several teams, including Golden State and Charlotte, desperate for low-post scorers and rebounders, no one believes Brand, who makes $14.8 million this season, has enough left to merit taking on that contract.


    Before Monta Ellis(notes) started on his scoring tear, Philly had hope that his issues with Golden State might inspire the Warriors to take a chance on Brand, but that isn’t happening. Sacramento had some interest in center Samuel Dalembert(notes), another contract Philly wants to shed, but couldn’t work out a three-way deal with Boston.

    Los Angeles Lakers: With a league high payroll of $91 million, the Lakers are looking again to shed salary off their bench, and GM Mitch Kupchak has told teams to take its pick of reserve players – except for Lamar Odom(notes), of course – to relieve the team of some salary.

    That idea worked out last season, when losing the salary of Vladimir Radmanovic(notes) to Charlotte unearthed the valuable Shannon Brown(notes) for the Lakers.
    I think we should look more into Portland needing an athletic forward...Chandler + Nate for Travis Outlaw + Rudy Fernandez??

    Also, Houston seems willing to take back a longer contract for McGrady and are having difficulties finding a team willing to take him...McGrady for Curry??

    Maybe this Tyrus Thomas talk signals the possibility of a future David Lee trade? He can't be traded until Dec 25th and maybe Donnie has a deal in the works for then.

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    Originally Posted by LJ4ptplay
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    I think we should look more into Portland needing an athletic forward...Chandler + Nate for Travis Outlaw + Rudy Fernandez??

    Also, Houston seems willing to take back a longer contract for McGrady and are having difficulties finding a team willing to take him...McGrady for Curry??

    Maybe this Tyrus Thomas talk signals the possibility of a future David Lee trade? He can't be traded until Dec 25th and maybe Donnie has a deal in the works for then.
    Wouldn't be a bad thing imo, if Tyrus replaced Lee. He's pretty much as gifted offensively they just don't run any plays for him. If he could pick n roll like Lee he would be a superior player I think.

    Better defense, similar level of jumper, more athletic.

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    No doubt Donnie is looking to ship Jefferies here. Curry is immovable when it comes to the Bulls with their tandem of Miller and Noah at the 5.

    In the trade, I think the Bulls would run an 8 man rotation with a starting 5 of:

    Noah
    Harrington
    Deng
    Salmons
    Rose

    Which is a tidy 5 with competent scoring inside and out.

    We would then have a 5 of:

    Thomas
    Lee
    Gallo or Chandler
    Hughes
    Puhon

    Worst 5 in the league.

    If it's going to be at all worth it, we'd have to trade for Salmons for instant offense. We'll need a real 2 guard next year and Salmon's fits the bill.

    These are the opposing salary sheets of NY and Chicago.

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    Harrington + Jefferies combined salaries equate to just under $17m

    Tyrus Thomas - $4.7m + Salmons' & James' (or Tim Thomas') combined salaries = Just under $17m.

    So I think Donnie could well be trying to pull the trigger on this and Chicago won't bail on Salmons. They're probably trying to off load Hinrich and one peek at his salary would give Donnie an anal prolapse.

    Or, they're looking for NY to throw in Chandler who at $1.25m doesn't break the trade levy.

    **** that.

    Stick to pursuing Fernandez and Outlaw from Portland and build toward a future with skill as opposed to raw athleticism.

    People are saying Jordan Hill is raw. Tyrus Thomas is in the same class. Potential plus and outstanding athletic ability at close to 7ft. I don't think we need another one of them. Projects aren't reliable and we don't wanna be noted as a team with a penchant for "could be" players.

    A big arse post like that deserves a bong.



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    And does anyone know the deal with Mobley's contract? It has to be dealt before Xmas or some **** right?

    Thanks

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    [QUOTE=LJ4ptplay;105489]This trade makes no sense.

    1.) We give Chicago more cap space to compete with us in 2010. In fact I think this gives them more cap space than us...and have a much better team than us...they could sign Wade and Bosh while already having Rose...not fair and stupid for Walsh to do.

    2.) Thomas is an expiring contract. We can't afford to retain his Bird Rights.

    3.) We already have Lee

    4.) Thomas doesn't really fit into D'Antoni's system as a PF. He can run the floor well but his outside shot is worse than Harringtons.

    *edit* 5.) We have HillQUOTE]

    I don't really get how you figure this is a bad trade for us at this point. Al Harrington is our leading scorer but big deal. He's a volume shooter that brings no defense to the table.

    The contracts match up evenly so we wouldn't be giving Chicago anymore cap room they then already have. All three players contracts expire after the season so it's a wash after the season. In the future wouldn't you rather have the opportunity of signing a much younger and athlethic Ty Thomas then an older Al Harrington? Harrington may not be old in age but in NBA years he's has alot of miles on those knees.

    Ty Thomas does fit this offense in my opinion. That with or without David Lee. But if you ask me if we were to make this trade it would definately feel like Lee's tenure in NY is coming to an end.

    Thomas isn't a great shooter but either is David Lee. But David Lee puts up big numbers in this system is there any reason to believe that a more athletic player like Thomas can't match Lee's numbers. Also Everybody on this site complains about lack of defense. Ty Thomas averages close to 2 blocks per game and average almost 3 blocks a game during last years playoffs.

    LJ is right we do have Hill but Hill isn't playing so whats wrong with rolling the dice on this trade? What do we honestly have to lose at this point?

    At worst case the second half of the season has a lineup like this.

    Duhon
    Hughes
    Gallo
    Thomas
    Lee

    At at best case if Donnie uses this Harrington trade as a stepping stone we could have a lineup that looks something like this.

    Duhon
    Fernandez
    Gallo
    Webster
    Thomas

    Or

    Duhon
    McGrady
    Gallo
    Thomas
    Hill

    Just an idea folks. I wouldn't dismiss the idea that quickly.

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    Thomas is a restricted free agent, which means the Knicks don’t have to sign him at the end of the year, and can renounce him. If the Knicks let Thomas walk at the end of the year, this would be a cap neutral trade. You can argue that Ty Thomas is more valuable to a rebuilding team than Harrington in a sign and trade, and as a restricted free agent, Thomas has incentive to play ball on such a deal. Would a package of Thomas, Chandler, and Jeffries be able to net Rudy Gay in a sign and trade?

    Found that on a site... Something to think about...

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    i like this deal cause it means chuckington gets dealt, and it means lee is up next.also, lol jerome james.

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