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    2 years ago... I anticipated change within the NYK org. I envisioned a new coach who would instill a DEFENSIVE intensity and philosphy. To contend with the likes of LBJ, Howard, The Big 3, up and comer medial teams like CHA and CHI etc... I am no expert- but I KNEW discipline and defense was what was needed to serve as an immediate remedy for this porous team, especially since our roster included mostly MID-ROAD players who's best attribute was scoring (although inconsistant)

    I hoped our new coach would be the answer since turn-around franchises like the Hawks and Cavs eeven the Magic had coaches that stressed Defense. I envisioned a coach bringing something that was lacking out of the players we had to "at least become competitive". I've watched us pass on Brook Lopez, missed out on Curry and Rubio and recently again mis-fired on Jennings and Evans. Sh!t I would even put Dujuan Blair in there.
    I had aspirations of Walsh and D'Antoni that (hind sight says) could of EASILY been accomplished not some pipe dream long shot- just doable deals. Granted shedding salary was great, but without the proper plan (building a solid defensive unit and acquiring a "STAR") how could I expect those deals to bring us success without the overall priorities there? By "Star" I (we) mean simply... All-Star, Superstar, Face of the franchise you know? By now we should have expected this! Every Good Team has a star (or budding star) we get Gallinari, Hill, and TD. Do these guys in the front office know anything about basketball? Selling tickets, shedding salary, developing defenses and consistancy are all valued priorities, ACQUIRING A "STAR" whether by draft or FA is and always will be the priority, specifically with a new regime. I know we are shedding salary but... honestly can you imagine what we would do with a Lebron, T-Mac etc... with this coach? What, can we expect LBJ or TMAC or GAY or AMARE to stand around the 3pt line waiting for a kick-out? That's what we currently get.

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    Can we expect these new players to play out of position and still be successful? I mean LBJ at the point? Lee is a center? What the f*ck is this? Here's my rant... I've spent hours (maybe weeks and years in total) watching and rooting and hoping for my team. As I mentioned this new regime had ample opportunities to show and prove.
    At this point I have absolutley no confidence that this coach will acquire the kind of PG we as LIFE-LONG fans envissioned- he just isn't. He's had chances to sign many guards who could approach stardum and he looked and supported guys like Duhon, Kidd, Miller etc... but passed on many available guards.
    I have no confidence in this team being successful Even If They Acquire a ready made star. Why? Well D'Ant couldn't do ANYTHING with ANYONE on this roster (that Isaih or any other coach couldn't have done) except lose the respect they gave him. Game plan, strategy, motivation, innovation, intensity, pride THESE are qualities and areas this coach has FAILED IN.
    That said... I'm done! I'm a New Yorker I demand better. No more of my time, energy and $ will support this. Here it is- you show me positive results and I'm in. Yoi don't then f*ck you! I don't want to hear about the loyalty and fair weather sh*t etc... I and you would be fools to give ANY support to this sh*t! Why would we? For this, for these schmucks who clearly are clueless to get paid millions making this team a compete laughing stock? No Thanks- I demand better- you produce or get the f*ck out. No reasoning, no chances nothing, I got better things to do with my time.
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    Mike D'Antoni is a fantastic coach. One of the best in the world. Top 3 no doubt.

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    Opinions are like *******s... everyone has one, and yours stinks. Good day.

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    Originally Posted by jpz17
    Mike D'Antoni is a fantastic coach. One of the best in the world. Top 3 no doubt.
    i hope this is sarcasm

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    Originally Posted by Paul1355
    i hope this is sarcasm
    Dude you know me. I'm the biggest D'Antoni supporter. No joke

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    Originally Posted by jpz17
    Dude you know me. I'm the biggest D'Antoni supporter. No joke

    why does everyone think we should be better then we are ? Great we keep games close but teams know who they are playing and can step when need be.

    Isiah Failed, Larry Brown Failed and now D"Antonio failed......Anybody see a common link ?

    BTW remember how we started the season last year when we had Randolph and Crawford. We had a winning record until they were traded due to cap.

    WE HAVE NO STAR PLAYERS..........Why do you people keep talking as if we have something and D"antonio cannot pull then together..........

    I agree some of what he has done falls into question but he has been handed a pile of **** and I guess its not the easiest thing to deal with......

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    Originally Posted by jpz17
    Dude you know me. I'm the biggest D'Antoni supporter. No joke
    you're looking real foolish right now.

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    Originally Posted by skisloper
    why does everyone think we should be better then we are ? Great we keep games close but teams know who they are playing and can step when need be.

    Isiah Failed, Larry Brown Failed and now D"Antonio failed......Anybody see a common link ?

    BTW remember how we started the season last year when we had Randolph and Crawford. We had a winning record until they were traded due to cap.

    WE HAVE NO STAR PLAYERS..........Why do you people keep talking as if we have something and D"antonio cannot pull then together..........

    I agree some of what he has done falls into question but he has been handed a pile of **** and I guess its not the easiest thing to deal with......
    explain to me why he continues to bench Douglas, Hughes, Hill and Bender when Duhon and Jeffries get sufficient playing time?

    Mike D procrastinates about defense and energy this whole team procrastinates. If you want defense and energy than play guys who have the ability and "spirit" (as mike d quoted) to play at a high level and not these d league players.

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    Originally Posted by Paul1355
    explain to me why he continues to bench Douglas, Hughes, Hill and Bender when Duhon and Jeffries get sufficient playing time?

    Mike D procrastinates about defense and energy this whole team procrastinates. If you want defense and energy than play guys who have the ability and "spirit" (as mike d quoted) to play at a high level and not these d league players.
    Dude. Your response strengthens his argument. You're calling for Douglas, Hill, Hughes and Bender as replacements for Duhon and Jeffries.

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    Well....i don't get why D'Antoni won't try this. I thought he took a step in teh right direction by benching Duhon. But the next day he was on his dick again. It's a recession (basketball wise) for the knicks no time to consider peoples feelings.

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    I was expecting at least a fight for the 8th spot, but it seems highly unlikely. This sux cause the Jazz now get a nice pick. I'm not giving D'Antoni a pass just yet but I want to see what the NYK do in the ofseason and how he coaches the new acquisitions. The NYK's future hinges on this offseason and the next so I can't react just on this horrific season. So many question marks, so many.

    Dlee's future
    No PG
    Who will we attract without having a playoff team in place
    No1st round pick
    Jefferies and Curry's contract.

    I wish I could fastforward to September already.

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    Originally Posted by LJ4ptplay
    Dude. Your response strengthens his argument. You're calling for Douglas, Hill, Hughes and Bender as replacements for Duhon and Jeffries.

    Thats the beauty of being such a die-hard fan you lose sight of the reality in which you are in.

    Hill is starting to see a bit more time. Bender is hurt after 5 minutes and I beleive his first game he played for us will be his best. Hughes is a Baby for complaining to the press. After his awful pre-season he played and that was ok.

    As for Douglas I would like to ask D'Antonio that question as he is one player that should be playing and showed signs ...........

    Duhon spends more time partying then preparing and should not our starting point guard but in the cast of characters D'Antonio feels he is our best.

    No matter what we will not get wins.....Look at Lee's stats and the other coaches did not put him in the all-star game.

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    Originally Posted by dre48ny
    I was expecting at least a fight for the 8th spot, but it seems highly unlikely. This sux cause the Jazz now get a nice pick. I'm not giving D'Antoni a pass just yet but I want to see what the NYK do in the ofseason and how he coaches the new acquisitions. The NYK's future hinges on this offseason and the next so I can't react just on this horrific season. So many question marks, so many.

    Dlee's future
    No PG
    Who will we attract without having a playoff team in place
    No1st round pick
    Jefferies and Curry's contract.

    I wish I could fastforward to September already.
    Curry is our's until next year when we can trade his expiring contract....Our only hope is Isiah takes over for the Clippers and trade him to us for Griffin. ( im kidding )

    Jeffires continues to play every night as a sell job..........if he does not play we cannot get rid of him......we have 11 more days keep your fingers crossed...

    Rid of Jeffries leaves us with , Gallo, Hill , Chandler and 31 million to spend.

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    Originally Posted by skisloper
    Curry is our's until next year when we can trade his expiring contract....Our only hope is Isiah takes over for the Clippers and trade him to us for Griffin. ( im kidding )

    Jeffires continues to play every night as a sell job..........if he does not play we cannot get rid of him......we have 11 more days keep your fingers crossed...

    Rid of Jeffries leaves us with , Gallo, Hill , Chandler and 31 million to spend.
    Curry's contract might be valuable in the summer because it becomes an expiring contract so teams might want to unload a star player's long salary.

    Jefferies' contract is hopefully gone in 11 days if not he also becomes an expring contract in the summer.

    This is why i say so many questions, just want to hit the fast forward button dude.

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