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    Originally Posted by abcd
    Fact # 1: The Houston Rockets hired Ewing to work with Yao Ming(an NBA center). The Orlando Magic hired Ewing to work with Dwight Howard(an NBA center).
    How does this PROVE that EWING would have DRAFTED a Center? How does this PROVE that EWING would look at our roster and say "Brook Lopez, in particular, is the guy I want"? The fact that some teams hired Ewing to be a Centers-coach does not mean that Ewing wants to draft centers!!!

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    <table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border: 1px inset ;"> Originally Posted by abcd
    Stan Van Gundy is an experienced head coach. I am going to take his word over your word, if he says Ewing is ready to be a head coach. Why? Because no head coach in the history of the NBA coached from the day they were born. Someone down the line gave them an opportunity, before they got hired as a head coach.
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    Stan Van Gundy may be experienced, but as I showed he has a tendency to spout hyperbole...are you a Wayne Simien fan too?

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    <table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border: 1px inset ;"> Originally Posted by abcd
    Yao Ming is one of the best centers in the NBA. He said Ewing helped him a lot with his career. Again, I'll take his word over yours.
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    But this does not mean that Ewing was SOLELY responsible for Yao's improvement. You are ignoring other very relevant factors.

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    <table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border: 1px inset ;"> Originally Posted by abcd
    During the Rookie Sophomore game, the announcers asked Howard what was something he did over the summer to improve his game. They mentioned nothing about Ewing, yet he said "Ewing has been great for me. He really helped me a lot."
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    Obviously they went for comment about the game, and chose Dwight because his assistant coach was a head coach. And what is Dwight going to say? "Ewing is horrible and has done nothing for me, I still have a limited offensive game"? Obviously, they were going for him to comment, and he made a comment about the coach.

    Next? In an effort to get abcd to debate, I will repost my points that abcd has ignored, again because he is a scared little cry baby...I made it easy on him. If he ignores again, we know he is scared to have an actual debate.

    <table id="post112267" class="tborder" align="center" border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr valign="top"></tr><tr valign="top"><td class="alt1" id="td_post_112267" style="border-right: 1px solid rgb(255, 255, 255);">
    1) If Ewing was our coach, the record is devoid of any evidence that Ewing would have definitely taken Brook Lopez. GIVE ME AN ARTICLE THAT SAYS WE WOULD HAVE!

    2) Ewing has not been interviewed by any team to be head-coach, maybe the league knows something we don't. GIVE ME AN ARTICLE THAT EWING HAS BEEN SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED, EVER, FOR A HEAD COACHING JOB

    3) Stan Van Gundy does not always speak the Gospel. I GAVE THREE QUOTES SHOWING STAN VAN GUNDY IS NOT ALWAYS THE MOST TRUSTWORTHY. IF YOU TAKE HIS WORD FOR IT ON EWING YOU MUST THINK WAYNE SIMIEN IS A GOOD BALLER.

    4) The one game Ewing has head-coached, he looked lost. AS I SAID, IT MAY NOT BE DISPOSITIVE! BUT IT IS REVELATORY!

    5) Saying that Ewing's arrival caused improvement in Howard and Ming fails to account for several external factors, including age and natural player development. ELIMINATE THE EXTERNAL VARIABLE FACTORS OF AGE AND EXPERIENCE!

    6) How does one explain, if Ewing is as amazing a coach as claimed, the lack of development and diversity in Dwight Howard's offensive game? EXPLAIN TO ME HOWARD'S LIMITED OFFENSIVE GAME!

    7) This is not to say Ewing CAN'T be a great head coach. On the contrary, he can be. You are right to say that the Magic made the NBA Finals with Patrick Ewing as assistant coach...but that diminishes the role of OTHER assistants. How can you just assume, and again, bring up the temporal fallacy, that just because Patrick Ewing was there he CAUSED the team to go to the finals. Are we saying Brendan Malone and Bob Beyer did nothing as assistant coaches? I'm not ready to make that logical leap over a gap of missing information. Should we hire or give interviews to Brendan Malone? Bob Beyer? Any other Magic assistant coach? EXPLAIN WHY WE SHOULDN'T HIRE OR INTERVIEW MALONE OR BEYER!


    YOU STILL HAVE NOT BACKED UP YOUR ARGUMENTS...YOU MADE OUTLANDISH STATEMENTS, AND NOW I'M ASKING YOU TO PROVE THEM...YOU CAN NOT DO IT!
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    Looks like Amare refuses to be dealt to CLE.

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    Originally Posted by mafra
    Looks like Amare refuses to be dealt to CLE.
    Where do you see that?

    If he does, it's a dumb move on his part...he's got a chance to win it all there if he goes. I wonder what holds him back? Maybe he really really wants to come play for Mike D? Amar'e's numbers have been declining in recent years without Mike D, perhaps Amar'e knows he can only put up big numbers and have his total lack of defense go ignored if he plays for Mike?

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    The gringo fails again.

    I presented 4 pieces of evidence to back up my statements.

    All KBlack has is his words. I have sources and links. He has words.

    Fact # 1: The Houston Rockets hired Ewing to work with Yao Ming(an NBA center). The Orlando Magic hired Ewing to work with Dwight Howard(an NBA center).

    Had the Knicks gotten Ewing, it would have been after he proved he knew how to develop two of the NBA's best centers, so why wouldn't have they gotten Lopez?

    Seriously, KBlack, you are a manipulator.

    Fact #2: Stan Van Gundy is an experienced head coach. I am going to take his word over your word, if he says Ewing is ready to be a head coach. Why? Because no head coach in the history of the NBA coached from the day they were born. Someone down the line gave them an opportunity, before they got hired as a head coach.

    Your boyfriend D'Antoni coached in Italy and was an assistant before he got a head coaching spot.

    Fact #3: Yao Ming is one of the best centers in the NBA. He said Ewing helped him a lot with his career. Again, I'll take his word over yours.

    Fact #4: During the Rookie Sophomore game, the announcers asked Howard what was something he did over the summer to improve his game. They mentioned nothing about Ewing, yet he said "Ewing has been great for me. He really helped me a lot."

    lol at this gringo bringing up a rookie sophomore game. Does Patrick Ewing coach a team of sophomores?
    No, it was a pickup game.

    And using your logic, Ewing must be an excellent coach, based on his win against the Western Conference All Stars, last night.

    "Pat's a very good coach who's ready to do it, " Van Gundy said. "Like a lot of people, he just needs an opportunity."
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    "Patrick was able to teach me a lot," Yao says. "He's been very good for my career."
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    Stop hating on the Knicks' G.O.A.T., sucka.

    Once Again, GAYBLACK has no answer for my ethers. I already proved that Lopez would have went to the Knicks, because of Ewing's history with elite NBA centers, as a coach on the Rockets and the Magic.

    The Knicks had ZERO centers, in 2008, when there was a coaching vacancy.

    @ Gayblack storming into Knicksonline, the minute he discovered D'Anphony was hired as coach of the Knicks.

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    KBLACK, since you're a "law student", how about you sue your hubby D'Antoni for some child support to support your triplets.


    Gayblack, pregnant with D'Anphony's babies.
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    Originally Posted by abcd
    Once Again, GAYBLACK has no answer for my ethers. I already proved that Lopez would have went to the Knicks, because of Ewing's history with elite NBA centers, as a coach on the Rockets and the Magic.
    HOW DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE?!?!?!

    Just because Ewing has history with elite NBA centers does not mean they would go and draft Brook Lopez necessarily! What if Ewing found someone on free agency he wanted, or wanted a center NOT named Brook Lopez?!?! Just because he had experience with Ming and D12 does NOT mean they would have definitely drafted Brook Lopez!

    I really can't believe someone who has at least the functional ability to type cannot comprehend this...

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    Originally Posted by KBlack25
    Where do you see that?

    If he does, it's a dumb move on his part...he's got a chance to win it all there if he goes. I wonder what holds him back? Maybe he really really wants to come play for Mike D? Amar'e's numbers have been declining in recent years without Mike D, perhaps Amar'e knows he can only put up big numbers and have his total lack of defense go ignored if he plays for Mike?
    lol @ GAYBLACK25 pretending he doesn't like D'Antoni. You're D'Anphony's harlot.
    Brook Lopez ranked #1 in NBA centers, in the 08 draft. Why would anyone want the #2 or #3 ranked center at #6?



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    Again, abcd refuses to provide the connection between Patrick Ewing coaching centers and Patrick Ewing definitely wanting Brook Lopez...

    Again, abcd skirts the issue.

    Lock this thread, abcd obviously isn't ready to have intelligent discussion.

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    Originally Posted by GayBlack25
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    Lock this thread, abcd keeps exposing me. Help! Help! Help!
    LOL!!!

    GAYBLACK is begging the mods to close the thread. I think it is clear that Gayblack is the one who's scared.

    lol @ GAYBLACK25 pretending he doesn't like D'Antoni. You're D'Anphony's harlot.
    Brook Lopez ranked #1 in NBA centers, in the 08 draft. Why would anyone want the #2 or #3 ranked center at #6?



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    Again, abcd shows he is scared to debate.

    He cannot provide a link between Patrick Ewing and Brook Lopez definitely and in particular, so he resorts to name calling and bigotry...

    abcd fears kblack, that's why he won't debate.

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    Originally Posted by GayBlack25
    Help! Help! Help! Help! Help! I got anally mutilated by D'Anphony and abcd exposed me.
    I already presented my facts.

    You lost. All you have is words that derive from a sociopath aka you.

    You seem to be the one that's scared, because you keep screaming like a little b!tc# for the mods to close the thread.

    Too bad. They're not going to save you from being ethered by the G.O.A.T.

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    Originally Posted by abcd
    I already presented my facts.

    You lost. All you have is words that derive from a sociopath aka you.

    You seem to be the one that's scared, because you keep screaming like a little b!tc# for the mods to close the thread.

    Too bad. They're not going to save you from being ethered by the G.O.A.T.
    You presented your facts, that b/c Ewing was brought in to and successfully coached D12 and Yao that means we would definitely draft Brook Lopez.

    My argument is that there is nothing to show Ewing would have drafted Brook Lopez in particular. Ewing could have found someone on the team, someone in free agency, or even someone else in the draft. Success with D12 and Yao does not mean that Ewing would definitely want Brook Lopez, the two assertions are unrelated...and you didn't come back with anything

    abcd fears kblack.

    In summation, all I want to see is how you would argue: Because Ewing was brought in to coach D12 and Yao Ming, then he would definitely draft Brook Lopez. How are the two assertions related? How do you get Brook's name in particular? What does coaching D12 and Yao Ming have to do with what people Ewing wants on the team in particular. If you are arguing Ewing would want a CENTER, that's fine, but there are more centers than just Lopez.

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    Originally Posted by abcd
    I already presented my facts.

    You lost. All you have is words that derive from a sociopath aka you.

    You seem to be the one that's scared, because you keep screaming like a little b!tc# for the mods to close the thread.

    Too bad. They're not going to save you from being ethered by the G.O.A.T.
    Gayblack lost, and now she's crying like a litte (unt for the mods to close the thread. Not going to happen.

    You were meant to be ethered by me.

    I destroyed you on about 10 different occasions, which is why you keep moaning and screaming like a w#ore that just finished having his anus thrusted IN AND OUT AND IN AND OUT AND IN AND OUT AND IN AND OUT by your hubby, D'Antoni.

    Stand by your man, Gayblack. In good times and bad. Don't be ashamed, be proud.

    Gayblack keeps begging for the mods to close the thread, as I continue to ether him.

    Proof that Gayblack is pregnant with D'Antoni's babies.

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    Again, I break down the argument for abcd, exactly what he has to prove, to show he is right and get the almighty win he seems to be clamoring for.

    And again, he CANNOT PROVE HIS OWN ASSERTION.

    abcd fears kblack.

    still.

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    abcd, I am going to lay it out for you, again, for the 14th time...so you don't lose to me, again...because I feel bad picking on a person as idiotic as you:

    You presented your facts, that b/c Ewing was brought in to and successfully coached D12 and Yao that means we would definitely draft Brook Lopez.

    My argument is that there is nothing to show Ewing would have drafted Brook Lopez in particular. Ewing could have found someone on the team, someone in free agency, or even someone else in the draft. Success with D12 and Yao does not mean that Ewing would definitely want Brook Lopez, the two assertions are unrelated...and you didn't come back with anything

    All I want to see is how you would argue: Because Ewing was brought in to coach D12 and Yao Ming, then he would definitely draft Brook Lopez. How are the two assertions related? How do you get Brook's name in particular? What does coaching D12 and Yao Ming have to do with what people Ewing wants on the team in particular. If you are arguing Ewing would want a CENTER, that's fine, but there are more centers than just Lopez.

    If you fail to do this, in the next post, you admit defeat.

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    Originally Posted by abcd
    Gayblack lost, and now she's crying like a litte (unt for the mods to close the thread. Not going to happen.

    You were meant to be ethered by me.

    I destroyed you on about 10 different occasions, which is why you keep moaning and screaming like a w#ore that just finished having his anus thrusted IN AND OUT AND IN AND OUT AND IN AND OUT AND IN AND OUT by your hubby, D'Antoni.

    Stand by your man, Gayblack. In good times and bad. Don't be ashamed, be proud.

    Gayblack keeps begging for the mods to close the thread, as I continue to ether him.

    Proof that Gayblack is pregnant with D'Antoni's babies.
    Gayblack came storming into this forum the minute she found out D'Anphony was hired as coach of the Knicks.



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    Gayblack screamed at the top of her lungs to no evail, begging for the mods to save her from destruction via closing the thread.

    GayBlack, bent over for her hubby, D'Anphony.


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    "Ewing has been credited with developing some of the league's top centers, first in Houston with Yao Ming and now in Orlando with Dwight Howard. New Jersey has a promising young center in Brook Lopez."

    "Yes, I would love to coach the Nets."-Patrick Ewing
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    Knicks fans, would it pain you to see Patrick Ewing as the Nets coach?




    <LABEL class=pds-feedback-label for=PDI_feedback1>Yes! This would be just as bad as seeing him in a Sonics and Magic jersey. 18% (19 votes) </LABEL>

    <LABEL class=pds-feedback-label for=PDI_feedback2>Nope. Shame on the Knicks for never giving him a shot. Go for it, Patrick. 82% (87 votes)

    "I think I'm ready. I've been coaching for five years. I mean, how long are you supposed to wait?" Ewing asked. "I don't want to just be a big man's coach. I do all the stuff that the other coaches do."
    "The whole situation in New York is amusing to me with all of those names coming up there and they're not talking about Patrick," Van Gundy said. "Here's a guy who has paid his dues and learned to coach every day.

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