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    Default FA Poll: I wanna know what KOL is thinking.

    I've excluded LBJ and DWade from this poll because I'm adamant about the fact that neither will come to NY.

    Who would you prefer as a FA signing in NY's biggest off season since Ewing was drafted?

    Lettuce know.

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    the only ones that matter are james, wade, bosh, and probably gay.wade is staying in miami, bosh will most likely join him, if lebron wins a title he stay in cleveland, so considering our luck, my guess is we end up with rudy ****ing gay.if we don't get lebron james, i don't want anyone else.might as well start collecting lotto picks, and build a championship caliber team the old fashioned way.

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    None of thee above...

    None of those players are really worth building your franchise around. If we can't get Lebron or Wade we need to resign Lee and make minor tweaks in preparation for additional cap relief in 2011.

    Trillion's 2011 Lineup if we fail to get Lebron or Wade:

    PG- draft or trade (maybe Brooks, Stuckey or Lowry)
    SG- Rudy Fernandez
    SF- Durant/Gallo
    PF- Lee
    C- M. Gasol

    I think you can build a solid core around Lee, Durant, Gasol and Fernandez. You get Gallo of the bench as 6th man knocking down shots and spreading the floor. IMO that is the best of the rest and can actually get done.

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    Originally Posted by TR1LL10N
    None of thee above...

    None of those players are really worth building your franchise around. If we can't get Lebron or Wade we need to resign Lee and make minor tweaks in preparation for additional cap relief in 2011.

    Trillion's 2011 Lineup if we fail to get Lebron or Wade:

    PG- draft or trade (maybe Brooks, Stuckey or Lowry)
    SG- Rudy Fernandez
    SF- Durant/Gallo
    PF- Lee
    C- M. Gasol

    I think you can build a solid core around Lee, Durant, Gasol and Fernandez. You get Gallo of the bench as 6th man knocking down shots and spreading the floor. IMO that is the best of the rest and can actually get done.
    And that's the alternate. That 5 is sick to the power of tough.

    I can hold out for another year for that.

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    Originally Posted by ANU
    the only ones that matter are james, wade, bosh, and probably gay.wade is staying in miami, bosh will most likely join him, if lebron wins a title he stay in cleveland, so considering our luck, my guess is we end up with rudy ****ing gay.if we don't get lebron james, i don't want anyone else.might as well start collecting lotto picks, and build a championship caliber team the old fashioned way.
    I think Bosh'll go to Miami as well.

    And what about Amar'e?

    Rudy Gay's not to be sneezed at, but how deflating would it be after all the ****ing hype to have him be the FA signing.

    BTW, NY is not going to go through a drawn out rebuilding process. The city has that need to be instantly gratified. Even this season is a purgatory that the Apple can't sit through let alone continue to do so for 2-3 years.

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    Originally Posted by ANU
    might as well start collecting lotto picks, and build a championship caliber team the old fashioned way.
    The Chicago Bulls have been getting number 1 draft picks for years, how come they aren't a championship contender? I like the idea of using lottery picks to build a team but unless your team has the ability to draft good players the NBA draft is pretty much a meaningless commodity.Just look at the garbage that the Knicks have drafted over the past decade: Frederic Weis, Donnell Harvey, Michael Sweetney and Channing Frye.I know this sounds like an overstatement but, I have more faith in Mike D'antoni winning a championship with the Knicks than I have in the ability of the Knicks' scouts to draft future NBA stars.No matter how high the draft pick would be for the Knicks they will always find a way to blow it.Any organization that's gone more than 20 years without drafting an NBA superstar has to either finish the regular season with the worst record or has to completely depend on luck in order to draft a player that they could build their franchise around.Even though the Knicks have drafted players such as Trevor Ariza, David Lee and Wilson Chandler, over the past six years, none of those players have been cornerstones to the Knick organization.So if the Knicks decide to go the lottery route, Knick fans better pray that a pot of gold miraculously ends up on the Madison Square Garden side lines during a future NBA draft night.
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    Originally Posted by johnstarky
    The Chicago Bulls have been getting number 1 draft picks for years, how come they aren't a championship contender? I like the idea of using lottery picks to build a team but unless your team has the ability to draft good players the NBA draft is pretty much a meaningless commodity.Just look at the garbage that the Knicks have drafted over the past decade: Frederic Weis, Donnell Harvey, Michael Sweetney and Channing Frye.I know this sounds like an overstatement but, I have more faith in Mike D'antoni winning a championship with the Knicks than I have in the ability of the Knicks' scouts to draft future NBA stars.No matter how high the draft pick would be for the Knicks they will always find a way to blow it.Any organization that's gone more than 20 years without drafting an NBA superstar has to either finish the regular season with the worst record or has to completely depend on luck in order to draft a player that they could build their franchise around.Even though the Knicks have drafted players such as Trevor Ariza, David Lee and Wilson Chandler, over the past six years, none of those players have been cornerstones to the Knick organization.So if the Knicks decide to go the lottery route, Knick fans better pray that a pot of gold miraculously ends up on the Madison Square Garden side lines during a future NBA draft night.
    there is a diffrence.those are the bulls, and donnie is not Isiah or layden.

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    For some ****ed up reason, the ****ing poll didn't work.

    Whatever.

    My FA pick(s) and the consequent starting 5 for 2010-11 are as follows:

    <table border="0" width="740" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td colspan="4">
    • Chris Bosh
    • #4
    • Forward
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    <link rel="image_src" href="http://www.nba.com/media/act_chris_bosh.jpg">

    </td> <td> 2009-10 Statistics

    <dl id="prastats"><dt>PPG</dt><dd>24.4 </dd><dt>RPG</dt><dd>11.40 </dd><dt>APG</dt><dd>2.3 </dd><dt class="pralast">EFF</dt><dd class="pralast">+ 27.73 </dd></dl> Born: Mar 24, 1984
    Height: 6-10 / 2.08
    Weight: 230 lbs. / 104.3 kg.
    College: Georgia Tech
    Years Pro: 6
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    • Kyle Lowry
    • #7
    • Guard
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    </td> <td> 2009-10 Statistics

    <dl id="prastats"><dt>PPG</dt><dd>8.8 </dd><dt>RPG</dt><dd>4.00 </dd><dt>APG</dt><dd>4.6 </dd><dt class="pralast">EFF</dt><dd class="pralast">+ 12.15 </dd></dl> Born: Mar 25, 1986
    Height: 6-0 / 1.83
    Weight: 205 lbs. / 93.0 kg.
    College: Villanova
    Years Pro: 3

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    Lowry, as a back up is still filling the 3 main stat lines very tidily. One of the leagues best rebounding PGs. As Clyde loves to say, Lowry's intangible efforts are an invisible statistic.

    Trust me, this guy'll be a monster if given the chance.

    He is a restricted FA though.

    5 - Hill - Curry - Jefferies
    4 - Bosh - Hill - Jefferies
    3 - Gallo - ? - Chandler - Jefferies
    2 - Chandler - Toney D - N8
    1 - Lowry - Toney D - N8

    And $6m to spare to round out the roster if we re-sign N8 at $4m again.

    Going in to the 2011-12 season, with Jefferies and Curry the fat slut finally gone, there'll be an extra $17m approx to really cap off a rebuild of the Knicks.

    It's amazingly flawed because there are only 8 players with $6m to spare. But that in itself is very telling of how much of a pickle we are in.


    And there's no Lee. Bosh > Lee.

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    Call me crazy, but if we don't get a superstar...I'd be cool with Felton, Scola and Rudy Gay...That'd give us

    PG - Felton/Douglas
    SG - Rudy Gay/Wilson Chandler
    SF - Gallinari/Wilson Chandler
    PF - David Lee/Jordan Hill
    C - Luis Scola/Jared Jefferies/Eddy Curry

    Perhaps unrealistic, but I think that gives us a good rebounding core, we can rotate Gay/Chandler/Gallo on the floor for 2 spots, consistently giving us a good scorer. I also think that none of those guys will get a max contract, which could enable us to actually make the move.

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    Originally Posted by KBlack25
    Call me crazy, but if we don't get a superstar...I'd be cool with Felton, Scola and Rudy Gay...That'd give us

    PG - Felton/Douglas
    SG - Rudy Gay/Wilson Chandler
    SF - Gallinari/Wilson Chandler
    PF - David Lee/Jordan Hill
    C - Luis Scola/Jared Jefferies/Eddy Curry

    Perhaps unrealistic, but I think that gives us a good rebounding core, we can rotate Gay/Chandler/Gallo on the floor for 2 spots, consistently giving us a good scorer. I also think that none of those guys will get a max contract, which could enable us to actually make the move.
    That's not crazy at all.... I'd be down with that as well.

    If you measure the likelihood of that against James signing, a team like that is a lot more likely and not such a horrific alternate.

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    Why does everybody assume Lee will just resign with us if we don't get anybody this summer?

    I'm not so sure he would want to suffer another year of losing in New York when he will get a serious offer from OKC.

    And I like Rudy Gay, but he is not a SG. Sorry. He's another SF. We already have 2 of those.

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    Originally Posted by LJ4ptplay
    Why does everybody assume Lee will just resign with us if we don't get anybody this summer?

    I'm not so sure he would want to suffer another year of losing in New York when he will get a serious offer from OKC.

    And I like Rudy Gay, but he is not a SG. Sorry. He's another SF. We already have 2 of those.
    Lee has always stated he loves NY and wants to remain a Knick. He also sees what we all see...massive cap relief in 2011. Is it a lock? nah but I think Lee will remain a KNick.

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    Originally Posted by Crazy8s
    I think Bosh'll go to Miami as well.

    And what about Amar'e?

    Rudy Gay's not to be sneezed at, but how deflating would it be after all the ****ing hype to have him be the FA signing.

    BTW, NY is not going to go through a drawn out rebuilding process. The city has that need to be instantly gratified. Even this season is a purgatory that the Apple can't sit through let alone continue to do so for 2-3 years.
    the knicks are a joke in the city apart from being a joke around the country, there is no easy way out of this predicament, but the best way would be to get as much young talent as possible and hope they turn into something special.i say no james, get a lotto pick(perry jones) and wait for melo.one guy that would really like to get this year is aldrich he's going to be a brook lopez type but is a better defender.if we can sign and trade lee and chandler for aldrich that needs to get done.

    gimme

    melo
    perry jones(compared to a t-mac/durant hybrid)
    gallo
    aldrich

    and that team is a championship caliber team.we just got to wait.i can wait, i just can sit through all this bull**** without saying anything.

    Originally Posted by KBlack25
    Call me crazy, but if we don't get a superstar...I'd be cool with Felton, Scola and Rudy Gay...That'd give us

    PG - Felton/Douglas
    SG - Rudy Gay/Wilson Chandler
    SF - Gallinari/Wilson Chandler
    PF - David Lee/Jordan Hill
    C - Luis Scola/Jared Jefferies/Eddy Curry

    Perhaps unrealistic, but I think that gives us a good rebounding core, we can rotate Gay/Chandler/Gallo on the floor for 2 spots, consistently giving us a good scorer. I also think that none of those guys will get a max contract, which could enable us to actually make the move.
    that's not a bad team, but that doesn't scream championship to me. we all want the same thing, a championship.

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    The same mentality that makes Lee a "must keep" is the same one that will lead to our continued failure. We cannot win by over-valuing David Lee types. Over paid- under performer types just set franchises back. Lee (like Duhon) can do everything except what we need him to do. Stop the homerism and move on. If you're a big and can't play Defense, your worthless period.
    We will never win with a Lee, Duhon- can get us over mentality. They are the proverbial "trees" stopping some from seeing the forest! While the incompetent Knicks value and try to appease the Lees of the world- real (smart) teams don't think twice about over paying this guy. Butts in the seats matter to small market teams, winning matters to real contenders.
    David Lee is not a winner, nor has what it takes to win. Although he has what it takes to outprice himself off contending teams and get his payday with a desperate team- oops that may be us....smh!

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    Originally Posted by KBlack25
    Call me crazy, but if we don't get a superstar...I'd be cool with Felton, Scola and Rudy Gay...That'd give us

    PG - Felton/Douglas
    SG - Rudy Gay/Wilson Chandler
    SF - Gallinari/Wilson Chandler
    PF - David Lee/Jordan Hill
    C - Luis Scola/Jared Jefferies/Eddy Curry

    Perhaps unrealistic, but I think that gives us a good rebounding core, we can rotate Gay/Chandler/Gallo on the floor for 2 spots, consistently giving us a good scorer. I also think that none of those guys will get a max contract, which could enable us to actually make the move.
    We need shot blocking...but I like your way of thinking.
    **** Lebron.

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