What should we do with LennyW?

frankwilliams

Benchwarmer
pyotrveliky said:
then again that applies 2 most coaches....

301th post!! now im an all star lol

lol....
yeah it does....
many coaches would love to be the winningest coach....
dont think the losingest coach though.....
 

JJtheKnick

Starter
lenny is a hell of COACH (not couch lol) the knicks came from nothing into the playoffs and its not only because of starbury it leeny to
 

nycefnl

Benchwarmer
Get Rid of him

He is an average coach who isn't much of a game planer and half time adjustment specialist. He couldn't get the knicks to be competive after the league figured out his only offensive wrinkle: pick and roll. He was unable to concoct strategies defensively and offensively to win one game or make one game close in the Nets' series. He doesn't know the meaning of " the post". Never did he figure out how to get Vin Baker, Mohammed, Sweetney, Kurt Thomas Tim Thomas (four inches taller than Richard Jefferson, and maybe take their leading scorer out the series) the ball in the post. Wilkens is not a game evaluator. If the knicks kept pounding the ball inside against Collins and Williams, they'd have won at least a couple of games in that series and would have been competitive in the others. He elected to have his team shooting long jumpers which ultimately incipients Kidd, Kittles or Jefferson rebounds and fast breaks points for the Nets. I saw an instance where Micheal Sweetney was given the ball in the post on an errant pass while guarded by Kenyon Martin. Sweetney backed him in with ease and scored. He has maybe 40 pounds on Martin. I didn't understand why he didn't see that and continue to attack Martin with Sweetney. Martin is know for dunce fouls. Basically, he's a putrid coach. I'd like to see Byron Scott here or a Greg Anthony or just give to Mark Aguire.
 

e_D

Benchwarmer
yup well.. we dont really have any guys who are able to pound like that in the post, except Sweets of course.. KT and TT are too much of jumpshooters.. Vin might've been able to do some work in the post if he saw more then 10 minutes a night.

Basically, I agree with you. Get rid of Wilkens. We need someone who's intense. I want to see screaming at refs for bad fouls, not a shake of the head and a chuckle. I want someone who's gonna get in our guys face when they make a silly play. I woulda liked to see Fratello more than Wilkens from the get.

Summer's here and our options have opened up a bit more.. Let's see what happens..
 

WiL8000

Rotation player
I agree with both of you nycefnl and E_D. I just don't see the Knicks making a coaching change this summer. If it does happen, it may be around the middle of the upcoming season, if the Knicks are losing more than winning. Byron Scott is a good choice too, but I heard he is really interested in coaching the Lakers next season. Thomas should just take the job for himself, everyone knows its just a matter of time anyway.
 

JJtheKnick

Starter
listen and listen closey LENNY IS GOOD my god he comes in to a hole new team and then more trades happen and even more trades and look the knicks still make the playoffs who eles can do that
 

nycefnl

Benchwarmer
If a coach can't devise a scheme to produce easy baskets or around the basket shots, he is inept. Here's a coach with the most wins of all-time which would have been a story yet he's also the coach with the most losses of all time. He's too old. We need some one fresh in there. We know what Wilkens can do. It's not enough. The pick and roll kills that offense now. All teams were doing to that was double the ball and rotating. They kept pushing Marbury outside the three point area. By the time Marbury could find the screener and lob the ball, the defensive rotations and double man recovered. He doesn't emphasize on defense and the post. Two keys to winning a championship.

Here's some teams with post up and defense
Lakers (post Shaq)
Spurs (post Duncan)
Nets (post Marting)
Detroit (post Wallace)
Indiana (post O'Neal)

Dallas, Sacrotomato & Minnesota are weak defensively therefore they don't succeed. They don't emphasize or preach defense. They aim to out score you not make stops.
 

kriss childs

Benchwarmer
Great points nycefnl! If Isaiah saw what you and I saw than Lenny's tenure as a Knick may be short.Lets hope Zeke handles this one with more class than Cheyney.
 

nycefnl

Benchwarmer
Thanks for the support. As we all are seeing now. Kevin Garnett falls too much in love with his own perimeter game. Therefore he puts no pressure on the defense, doesn't go to the line and his defender isn't in foul trouble. It doesn't matter who is down low just put the ball there at least. I'm convinced Sweetney and Mohammed could of exploited the inept defense of Collins and Williams and at least could have tired Martin on the defensive end.
 

WiL8000

Rotation player
I also think that Baker could have done better for the Knicks if he played more minutes against the Nets. He and Sweetney could pair up well, both are capable of drawing the defense out of the paint a bit, for a quick dish back in to the other foward. Wilkens needs to implement plays that compliment the Knicks players' strengths and aggressive defense, maybe even let the GM throw in some ideas.
 

BryantDunkGiant

Benchwarmer
Lenny's a good coach. You all just need time to gel and you need to make a couple more offseason moves before you contend for the playoffs or maybe even the title.
 

nycefnl

Benchwarmer
I would have agreed with you if they were competitive in the Nets series. And after his hiring and the long winning streak they had, teams figured his coaching strategy. And he was baffled by opposing defensive schemes. He's a horrendous coach!
 

WiL8000

Rotation player
Too late to get Byron Scott, I think Isiah himself would be the best choice right now for the job.
 
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