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    Over the last couple of games, Walker has gotten some good minutes due to Chandler being out of the lineup. Overall I like what I've seen so far. Walker seems to have a lot of upside and brings something we haven't had in a long while. This summer, Walsh has to make some decisions about who to keep or let go and I believe Walker is a guy we should definitely invest in plus he would barely cost us anything.

    Now I now some of you will say that you can't really assume anything in this short amount of time. However, there are some signs which lead me to believe that Walker (if given quality minutes) will produce more than Chandler. There are times when Chandler fades out of games in the 2nd half even when he's having a good game. This is obviously due to a lack of aggressiveness. Walker seems to have plenty of confidence and the skills to go with it plus he runs the floor well.

    Here are the main reasons why RIGHT NOW I like Walker over Chandler:
    • Emotion and agressiveness
    • Doesn't seem to have a great jumpshot but can create of the dribble and finish strong
    • Walker is more explosive and will probably get to the FT line more often
    • A constant presence on the floor
    • Pretty good basketball I.Q (so far)
    • Understands spacing on offense
    Defensively, Walker is below average so he will need to work on that along with his jumpshot.

    If Walker is really the player (on a consistent basis) that he's showing then this just creates more trade opportunities for Walsh this summer. I think Chandler has decent trade value so a number of teams could be interested in him.

    Thoughts?

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    Good post. I am one of those that thinks we have not seen enough of Walker to make an informed decision. The Cavs game was a huge blowout so I don't count that as much as the Pistons game since most of his points were during garbage time. He is definitely athletic and shows an aggressiveness we all wish Chandler would show. He is young, cheap, comes from a winning culture and has tremendous upside but it is just too soon to make a definitive judgment.

    Chandler has improved each year and I don't think he has hit his full potential. Chandler is also very athletic but is not consistently assertive and not very savvy. This may be a product of the losing culture that permeates the Knicks and it also may be a lck of veteran leadership. Lets remember that Chandler learned from the likes of Marbury, Crawford and Randolph...hardly smart veterans that command respect and lead by example. Part of me thinks with the right superstar that Chandler can thrive and reach his potential.

    In conclusion, it's a great problem to have for the Knicks. We have two young guys with a lot of upside and have the luxury of picking which direction to go in. I think trade opportunities and time will make the deciding factor on what player to keep.

    P.S. I predict Chandler will be packaged along with Curry's contract near the trade deadline next year so Walker may end up being a keeper.

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    Early call...

    They're on par athletically I think. Walker's desire will be his advantage to oversee Chandler's roll as starter.

    Chandler, ever the mono tempered guy, will no doubt sit back and let Walker take it from him.

    Fine by me.

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    i think with Walker shining and showing he can play( so far ) we just need to see more out of him on a consistent basis and if he could keep it up he then makes Chandler expendable and we could perhaps use him to get a C

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    One thing I didn't know about Walker is that he has had multiple knee surgeries.

    Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.

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    Originally Posted by TR1LL10N
    Good post. I am one of those that thinks we have not seen enough of Walker to make an informed decision. The Cavs game was a huge blowout so I don't count that as much as the Pistons game since most of his points were during garbage time. He is definitely athletic and shows an aggressiveness we all wish Chandler would show. He is young, cheap, comes from a winning culture and has tremendous upside but it is just too soon to make a definitive judgment.

    Chandler has improved each year and I don't think he has hit his full potential. Chandler is also very athletic but is not consistently assertive and not very savvy. This may be a product of the losing culture that permeates the Knicks and it also may be a lck of veteran leadership. Lets remember that Chandler learned from the likes of Marbury, Crawford and Randolph...hardly smart veterans that command respect and lead by example. Part of me thinks with the right superstar that Chandler can thrive and reach his potential.

    In conclusion, it's a great problem to have for the Knicks. We have two young guys with a lot of upside and have the luxury of picking which direction to go in. I think trade opportunities and time will make the deciding factor on what player to keep.

    P.S. I predict Chandler will be packaged along with Curry's contract near the trade deadline next year so Walker may end up being a keeper.
    I agree we need to see more of him before making any major decision. There are just little things I see in him that make me believe he could replace Chandler. I see both of them as being about the same athletically but when you have that gift then its so important to have that fire mentality to go along with it. Hopefully we'll see more of Walker and if he's truly the real deal.

    Also, i've been reading up on him and it seems like if his knee injuries didn't slow his career a bit then he might have been a mid first round pick.

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    Its a win win. Cause if we show he can play, then his trade value will rise...either one of them...

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    Chandler is a great overall talent that is 100% healthy now.
    Chandler's only problem is he'd rather shoot LOW % Jumpers all day, then take HIGH % layups/drives to the hoop.
    Chandler reminds me of Houston. We need to see more emotion from him.

    Walker had knee surgery. ( I haven't really looked into that yet )
    Walker has great agressiveness, and the ability to take it STRONG to the hoop.
    Walker's Jumper doesn't look great, although he has hit some 3's.

    Chandler has actually pissed me off this year with shooting all them BS 19 FT Jumpers on the Fast Break. For GodSakes, take it to the hoop, get someone in foul trouble, take a HIGH % shot...

    Walker: It's way too early to tell, but I like what I see if he remains healthy.
    I don't like him as a starter, but a nice 7th man to come in and tear **** up for a few minutes hear and there...

    As of now, I'd rather watch Walker yelling/screaming after a DUNK, then Chandler shooting a game winning jumper walking off the court like nothing happened...

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    Chandler still dribbles with his head down.. Walker is better by default.

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    Originally Posted by YOLO
    As of now, I'd rather watch Walker yelling/screaming after a DUNK, then Chandler shooting a game winning jumper walking off the court like nothing happened...
    I'm sure most people would agree with you on that.


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    funny thing is that I have missed the last two games and have not seen what this kid is doing, but his boxscore Numbers are off the hook! And looking at his contract for next season, there is even more reason to be excited

    That said.....In this offense any player can look good for a short stretch (think Duhon from November to January of last year) it can make a talanted player look like an All Star (think Al Harrington), I am not convinced yet that he is even starter worthy.

    I know we look at his age at what he has done when he has played, but Boston has had an even closer look at this kid for the past two season and they gave him up along with two other players and some second round picks....meaning they must not have been too high on him!

    Still coaches have been wrong about talent that is sitting on their bench -think players like Ben Wallace and StephEn Jackson- and trades them away not realizing their potential


    I know some people don't like Wil, but Wilson is my dude! People dont like his lack of emotion, but niether are players like Rashard Lewis and Derrick Rose arent the most emotional player, I say let their game do the talking

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    i think chandler has probably lost his starting potion for the short term but will still get lots of minutes shared with house/walker.

    Walker has been impressive and in basketball you always go with the hot hand. I don't know what wil's personal reasons for leaving the team are but it would be nice to see him come back and have a break out game. perhaps the competitiveness will come out in him with his starting job on the line....

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    Like many notice Chandler's personality causes him to lack aggressiveness and becomes inconsistent while scoring 14pts in the first half and 2pts in the 2nd.

    Walker is an energy player who seems to be apart of most plays while on the floor with skills similar to Chandler if not better. Chandler's plus is that he can play multiple positions and is a better defender right now than Walker. Chandler is expendable now if there are no more concerns of Walker's knees.

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    Originally Posted by New New York
    funny thing is that I have missed the last two games and have not seen what this kid is doing, but his boxscore Numbers are off the hook! And looking at his contract for next season, there is even more reason to be excited

    That said.....In this offense any player can look good for a short stretch (think Duhon from November to January of last year) it can make a talanted player look like an All Star (think Al Harrington), I am not convinced yet that he is even starter worthy.

    I know we look at his age at what he has done when he has played, but Boston has had an even closer look at this kid for the past two season and they gave him up along with two other players and some second round picks....meaning they must not have been too high on him!

    Still coaches have been wrong about talent that is sitting on their bench -think players like Ben Wallace and StephEn Jackson- and trades them away not realizing their potential


    I know some people don't like Wil, but Wilson is my dude! People dont like his lack of emotion, but niether are players like Rashard Lewis and Derrick Rose arent the most emotional player, I say let their game do the talking
    Boston also gave up on Joe Johnson. Look at him now.

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    Originally Posted by SSj4Wingzero
    Boston also gave up on Joe Johnson. Look at him now.
    Word. Al jefferson as well.

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