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    Breaking News The Obama deception

    Please people, whoever voted for him, I know all politicians lie but he has to be the worst this country has ever seen.

    Take a look at this video...this one of many that expose this guy.

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    In this other video he made 7 lies in 2 minutes...listen to what he says during his campaign race and look at what he has done and said so far as president...it's almost unbelievable.

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    I think he knows mind control.I know people have voted for bad politicians for ages, but to think he's a savior?

    And I'm serious about mind control.It's too much.

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    and he get nobel prize... the strangest in the history... but every president in whole world is a liar, I don't know what makes people so stupid to believe in their promises. They had never realise promises from campaign.

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    Alex Jones is a twit and a spinster. Obama, I admit is a corporatist Democrat and not the Liberal his enemies claim he is. That said, he certainly is the lesser of two evils.

    The truth is, the political system in DC is broke. They cannot get anything meaningful done out of fear that they give the other "team" a victory. It's like trading a player to another team in your division. Most GM's will avoid this at all costs.

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    Originally Posted by Paul1355
    Please people, whoever voted for him, I know all politicians lie but he has to be the worst this country has ever seen.

    Take a look at this video...this one of many that expose this guy.

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    In this other video he made 7 lies in 2 minutes...listen to what he says during his campaign race and look at what he has done and said so far as president...it's almost unbelievable.

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    First Bold:
    Not true. I am a politician and I do not know any politician personally (that is a democrat, I can't speak for republicans) that has lied about what they are doing

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    Incredible Joke.. Have you ever heard of George W Bush? or worse, Richard Nixon? even worse.. a local republican that is a state senator. Anyways.... Do you watch Fox(ixed) News? I'm willing to bet you watch it

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    Originally Posted by jpz17
    First Bold:
    Not true. I am a politician and I do not know any politician personally (that is a democrat, I can't speak for republicans) that has lied about what they are doing

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    Incredible Joke.. Have you ever heard of George W Bush? or worse, Richard Nixon? even worse.. a local republican that is a state senator. Anyways.... Do you watch Fox(ixed) News? I'm willing to bet you watch it
    You don't know any politicians personally but you are blind to the fact that Obama has lied about important promises he gave during his campaign race....the pulling out of troops, 95 % americans recieving tax cuts...etc. plus we still don't know if he truly is what he says he is...a Christian as Obama would claim to be would never point to the Sermon on the Mount as radical...which he did....Jeremiah Wrights church is an obination to teh Christian faith and is anti-christian....

    This guy has lies from his choices, views, people in his cabinet who many are corrupt and have resigned already, his history with a thousand question marks....please JPZ Bush was bad after 8 years...Nixon lied and got caught...Obama is lieing more than anyone and is flying high in the sky thinking no one can spot him on the radar...just listen to his riduclous promises and honestly tell me that no politician lies! LOL that is an incredible joke my friend.

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    Originally Posted by Paul1355
    You don't know any politicians personally but you are blind to the fact that Obama has lied about important promises he gave during his campaign race....the pulling out of troops, 95 % americans recieving tax cuts...etc. plus we still don't know if he truly is what he says he is...a Christian as Obama would claim to be would never point to the Sermon on the Mount as radical...which he did....Jeremiah Wrights church is an obination to teh Christian faith and is anti-christian....

    This guy has lies from his choices, views, people in his cabinet who many are corrupt and have resigned already, his history with a thousand question marks....please JPZ Bush was bad after 8 years...Nixon lied and got caught...Obama is lieing more than anyone and is flying high in the sky thinking no one can spot him on the radar...just listen to his riduclous promises and honestly tell me that no politician lies! LOL that is an incredible joke my friend.
    I could address every point you made but I'm not going to. I will not waste my time debating with the impossible. One thing I will say is go look up for example the democratic convention speech. Listen to it. Go through every line and listen to if he says "I WILL or I PROMISE." Also you have to take into account that he is only a year into his presidency. 1/4 isn't exactly a whole lot. Sure he exaggerated. Almost every politician will exaggerate the point to get in office. Is that such a crime? He did not to my knowledge flat out lie.

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    Paul, I should have been a bit clearer. I mentioned you were a born-again Christian, and a conservative ideologist, because you have labeled yourself as such. Because of this, your thinking, and that of those who try to obtain your patronage of their services, will be in conflict with those who believe in the other side's ideology.

    I think this is a fair assessment. If you agree, then please tell me why you believe your opinion to be fair and balanced? You, after all, have never been for Obama, have admittedly been a "birther," etc.

    As for Jimmy Carter, you're a conservative, so I get why you don't like him. I like him because he asked Americans to care about one another, to be moral, to live a life of service. In addition, he ended the embargo on Cuba, and he pulled all aid to the various dictatorships the U.S. had propped up, among other actions.

    Below, I pasted a poll for you to look at. It shows what people think about Carter. He never did what was politically advantageous, he was soft-spoken, kind and principled. He was what I thought Obama might have been. Obama is the better speaker, he is genuine, but he lacks the courage to do what he believes in.

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    Paul: I challenge you to go watch Capitalism a Love Story. Go rent it or whatever. It is a Michael Moore film. Watch that and then say this stuff. Please. If you do not do this I will never respect your political opinions. Trust me, I've watched plenty of Glen Feck shows. Know your opponent. Maybe he isn't your opponent. Find out. Watch Capitalism a love story.

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    Originally Posted by OGKnickfan
    Paul, I should have been a bit clearer. I mentioned you were a born-again Christian, and a conservative ideologist, because you have labeled yourself as such. Because of this, your thinking, and that of those who try to obtain your patronage of their services, will be in conflict with those who believe in the other side's ideology.

    I think this is a fair assessment. If you agree, then please tell me why you believe your opinion to be fair and balanced? You, after all, have never been for Obama, have admittedly been a "birther," etc.

    As for Jimmy Carter, you're a conservative, so I get why you don't like him. I like him because he asked Americans to care about one another, to be moral, to live a life of service. In addition, he ended the embargo on Cuba, and he pulled all aid to the various dictatorships the U.S. had propped up, among other actions.

    Below, I pasted a poll for you to look at. It shows what people think about Carter. He never did what was politically advantageous, he was soft-spoken, kind and principled. He was what I thought Obama might have been. Obama is the better speaker, he is genuine, but he lacks the courage to do what he believes in.

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    ill check out whatever you post because i am not close-minded...but u completely ignored the whole thing i gave about how Obama promised Bi-partisanship, A huge reason to why people voted for him, and he is acting the exact opposite by basically telling republicans to go shove it as long as all the democrats can vote for these ridiculous bills....

    What's your opinion on the fact that politicians were only given 72 hours to read what was in these massive bills before they were passed? And most of the democrats that voted for them did not even read the bills they just voted for it because Obama is part of their party and they think whatever he does is right, regardless of all the pork spending put in the bills which consists of billions on top of billions.....what's your view on this?

    You have to concerned about this topic at least.

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    Originally Posted by jpz17
    I could address every point you made but I'm not going to. I will not waste my time debating with the impossible. One thing I will say is go look up for example the democratic convention speech. Listen to it. Go through every line and listen to if he says "I WILL or I PROMISE." Also you have to take into account that he is only a year into his presidency. 1/4 isn't exactly a whole lot. Sure he exaggerated. Almost every politician will exaggerate the point to get in office. Is that such a crime? He did not to my knowledge flat out lie.
    look at the video i posted and tell me if that is not flat out lies....Many democrats are turning against him because of these statements he made during his campaign race. I have many friends that voted for Obama, and now hate this guy because of what I am saying. He is a great speaker but he has many questions marks that I repeat over and over again but people just don't seem to care for some odd reason.
    If any other president appointed his cabinet members and had a shady history like Obama, I guarantee the news would still be all over it. His popularity as the first black president, being a great speaker, and being the first democratic president since Clinton has given him a huge advantage and is the reason why he has not taken so much heat yet. He also had the media on his side since day 1 or else he would be exposed for many things like his shady history, no birth certificate, statements like giving Americans 95% tax cuts which we all knew wold never happen but people voted for him because of these statements!
    So do I think he is a lier? Yes, because he made bold statements that he knew would never come true just to get in office, and on some of these topics he has switched completely to the goals he had during his campaign race.

    I'm obviously concerned, but Democrats should be more concerned.

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    Originally Posted by Paul1355
    look at the video i posted and tell me if that is not flat out lies....Many democrats are turning against him because of these statements he made during his campaign race. I have many friends that voted for Obama, and now hate this guy because of what I am saying. He is a great speaker but he has many questions marks that I repeat over and over again but people just don't seem to care for some odd reason.
    If any other president appointed his cabinet members and had a shady history like Obama, I guarantee the news would still be all over it. His popularity as the first black president, being a great speaker, and being the first democratic president since Clinton has given him a huge advantage and is the reason why he has not taken so much heat yet. He also had the media on his side since day 1 or else he would be exposed for many things like his shady history, no birth certificate, statements like giving Americans 95% tax cuts which we all knew wold never happen but people voted for him because of these statements!
    So do I think he is a lier? Yes, because he made bold statements that he knew would never come true just to get in office, and on some of these topics he has switched completely to the goals he had during his campaign race.

    I'm obviously concerned, but Democrats should be more concerned.

    I'll give you this. I hate his cabinet. geithner is a criminal just like every treasury secretary we have had since Carter's time or maybe fore that. No person who was a wall street guy should be allowed in political office. WAY too much bias in there... That is part of what Moore's new movie is about. He actually criticizes Geithner for a good amount of time.

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    Originally Posted by Paul1355
    Please people, whoever voted for him, I know all politicians lie but he has to be the worst this country has ever seen.

    Take a look at this video...this one of many that expose this guy.

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    In this other video he made 7 lies in 2 minutes...listen to what he says during his campaign race and look at what he has done and said so far as president...it's almost unbelievable.

    [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]


    This country is driven by the divided hatred within (republicans vs democrates), and this divided hatred has been around since the Civil War.
    It's bad enough we have so much racial, cultural, and greedy hatred within this country, but ...... people like u is why
    we have politician vs politician hatred within the USA, these same politicians has become our worst enemy.
    u listen to.....way to much Hate radio

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    when i think of obama, i think of a celebrity before a president. i must admit that he was successful during his campaign though, college students went crazy for him! where are they now?

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    Paul, your posts of Sean Hannity, Alex Jones, and other demagogues', videos completely discredit you and your arguments.

    If you want us to listen to any of this stuff, post something created by an objective, disinterested party: someone not catering to an audience of people of your mindset, for whom they have to demonize Obama or have their shows canceled.

    Obama is a politician: politicians, like W, Clinton, W, Sr., Reagan, Nixon, etc., tend to say and do what is politically advantageous. Very few speak their minds openly. The only president that I can personally say was completely honest, regardless of the consequences, was Jimmy Carter.

    Moreover, you're an ideologue, Paul: you have said, openly, that you are a born-again Christian, a Conservative, etc. I would never call myself a liberal, or anything else, I personally don't want to be labeled. The fact that you do makes me leery of your opinion, because it's not objective, in any sense of the word.

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