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    Everyone knows we cannot rely on Lee to be our center...stating it again in this thread is beyond redundant. The only people asserting that Lee will be at center are the ones attacking him. Lee needs to play at his natural position, PF. Once that happens we should see Lee's stats improve further and his weakness on D be less of an issue. While Lee is not a great defender his deficiencies are magnified by playing out of position. If he had a defensive center playing in the paint then Lee's lack of D would be mitigated. I do agree as of now, Gasol is the better player but Lee is on par with his passing. That said, Gasol has reached his ceiling and we know what his limits are while Lee has not and is still improving.

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    I could care less whether Lee is here or not. When guys put Lee in a big 3 category (DontForgetDerekHarper) you fail to realize that he will not have the same production. Lee is the #1 option on a horrible team so he gets plenty of touches, minutes and rebounding opportunities.

    On a team with two all-star players, Lee will go back to average PF with hustle on the boards. I'll guarantee it.

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    Originally Posted by nyk_nyk
    I could care less whether Lee is here or not. When guys put Lee in a big 3 category (DontForgetDerekHarper) you fail to realize that he will not have the same production. Lee is the #1 option on a horrible team so he gets plenty of touches, minutes and rebounding opportunities.

    On a team with two all-star players, Lee will go back to average PF with hustle on the boards. I'll guarantee it.
    I disagree...Lee is a smart and savvy player that will get his numbers on scrappy plays and second chance opportunities. It's not like we pound the ball into Lee or we don't have ballhogs dominating the ball now. He will thrive in the pic n roll with a player like Lebron who can pass so effectively and makes his teammates better. Lee's game will be helped by a true star who commands a double team. His ability to finish with both hands at such a high FG% will be enhanced when a competent playmaker is dishing to him. Lets remember that Lee has had his two best years with Dudu running the point...think what a real distributor will do with him in the PnR.

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    Originally Posted by TR1LL10N
    I disagree...Lee is a smart and savvy player that will get his numbers on scrappy plays and second chance opportunities. It's not like we pound the ball into Lee or we don't have ballhogs dominating the ball now. He will thrive in the pic n roll with a player like Lebron who can pass so effectively and makes his teammates better. Lee's game will be helped by a true star who commands a double team. His ability to finish with both hands at such a high FG% will be enhanced when a competent playmaker is dishing to him. Lets remember that Lee has had his two best years with Dudu running the point...think what a real distributor will do with him in the PnR.
    Okay, I'll give you that but we still need a defensive presence or else all that pick n roll and scrappy play will be useless. I'd still prefer Bosh just because his game is more polished and he's smarter on defense.

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    Originally Posted by nyk_nyk
    Okay, I'll give you that but we still need a defensive presence or else all that pick n roll and scrappy play will be useless. I'd still prefer Bosh just because his game is more polished and he's smarter on defense.
    Bosh is a better player but will cost at least 5-6 mil more per year. Further Lee is still improving so who knows how good he will be once he has hit his prime. In addition, Bosh needs to have the offense run through him while Lee doesn't. I am not saying I would definitely take Lee over Bosh but alongside Lebron, Lee may be better.

    I also don't think Bosh is the answer at center and we still need to acquire a defensive center. With Bosh's sure to be max contract that makes the ability to get a center that much harder than signing Lee at 10-11 mil.

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    Just going to back to the original point, Lebron said in an interview that the player he would most like to play with is Bosh, This just says that someone said that the knicks should get JJ. I'm more inclined to go with what Lebron actually said and not what someone said he said.

    I still think that best way to get Lebron is to sign Bosh first.

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    Originally Posted by KirksORIG
    Just going to back to the original point, Lebron said in an interview that the player he would most like to play with is Bosh, This just says that someone said that the knicks should get JJ. I'm more inclined to go with what Lebron actually said and not what someone said he said.

    I still think that best way to get Lebron is to sign Bosh first.
    Yeah just in case LeBron doesnt come at least we can build around Bosh and bring in a Melo and Parker in 2011. I said it a few times. If we dont get LeBron, let's just not settle for all stars. Let's get the best of the best. Save the cap money for 2011. Fat Curry is off the books in 2011.

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    Originally Posted by dre48ny
    Yeah just in case LeBron doesnt come at least we can build around Bosh and bring in a Melo and Parker in 2011. I said it a few times. If we dont get LeBron, let's just not settle for all stars. Let's get the best of the best. Save the cap money for 2011. Fat Curry is off the books in 2011.
    I agree we should get bosh and build around him regardless of whether we get Lebron or not. I would much prefer lebron to melo but i think with bosh and some other good players and a winning season we might be able to get melo to come.

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    Obviously BS. Especially on Lebron watching Knick games before Cav games. That's ridiculous. This is just the first ripple in a wave of media absurdity.

    Originally Posted by TR1LL10N
    Bosh is a better player but will cost at least 5-6 mil more per year. Further Lee is still improving so who knows how good he will be once he has hit his prime. In addition, Bosh needs to have the offense run through him while Lee doesn't. I am not saying I would definitely take Lee over Bosh but alongside Lebron, Lee may be better.

    I also don't think Bosh is the answer at center and we still need to acquire a defensive center. With Bosh's sure to be max contract that makes the ability to get a center that much harder than signing Lee at 10-11 mil.
    That's what I've been saying!!!

    Been wondering if Bosh is really worth the extra $5-6m as well. Saving that money does leave room for a 5, but who would we trade for or sign? Curry and Chandler for Biedrins, Randolph and Morrow seems to be the best, realistic option.

    And there have been rumours that Toronto would part with Bosh for Lee as well.....This is no doubt another example of all the specious crap that the media will spit out between now and July. Why on earth would Toronto actively show interest in losing Bosh?
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    If LeBron did say this, anybody else get the feeling he said this to possibly get us to sign Johnson, so he AND Bosh could get max contracts on a different team?

    Also, for some strange reason, I can see him seriously considering signing with the Thunder because of Durant (Westbrook to boot).Young and nasty.

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    Originally Posted by Crazy8s
    Obviously BS. Especially on Lebron watching Knick games before Cav games. That's ridiculous. This is just the first ripple in a wave of media absurdity.



    That's what I've been saying!!!

    Been wondering if Bosh is really worth the extra $5-6m as well. Saving that money does leave room for a 5, but who would we trade for or sign?

    It'll be Lee for Biedrins or Okafor. Biedrins, Randolph and Morrow for Lee and Chandler seems likely after a sign and trade for Lee assuming GS are interested. That's a much better scenario for us. Biedrins is a very active center and another player that's suffering from Nellie's senility.

    And there have been rumours that Toronto would part with Bosh for Lee as well.....This is no doubt another example of all the specious crap that the media will spit out between now and July. Why on earth would Toronto actively show interest in losing Bosh?
    Okafor is a tough call because while he'd certainly be a much-needed upgrade at center (he'd be able to match up against the likes of the big men in the East Coast since he's a great defender and shotblocker), but his big contract...man, it's risky to take on a contract like that.

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    Originally Posted by SSj4Wingzero
    Okafor is a tough call because while he'd certainly be a much-needed upgrade at center (he'd be able to match up against the likes of the big men in the East Coast since he's a great defender and shotblocker), but his big contract...man, it's risky to take on a contract like that.
    It's not worth it.I see him play.He's a back-up center.Chris Anderson is way better than him.I like him, but he's not worth that contract.

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    Yeah, that's what I was leaning towards as well. His contract is just too terrible. If he was getting 7 million a year, then it'd be worth considering trading for him, but his contract is worth 10 million a year, is backloaded, and runs through 2014. Bad move...honestly, I didn't know his contract was THAT long.

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    Breaking News Time to wake-up from the optimistic FANTASY-DREAM

    Excuse-me, excuse-me, excuse-me to all Fantasy Game members this is the "REAL World".

    The Cavs had a 66 win season in 2008-9
    And the Cavs record in 2009-10 is at 55-15 with 12 games left.
    Wake-up Knick-Fans....Lebron Goal is to win a title for the Cavs.

    Knick Owner Dolan owns a big powerful newspaper called "News Day" in New York City. Whom the top-3 New York newspapers have to get the majority of their sports news about the Knicks & Rangers from the News Day sports writers.
    So the majority of Knicks & Rangers "RUMORS" are from their owners news papers. HELLOW!

    The Cavs weakest position the last two season has been at the SG position (Wally, Pavolic, and West did not step-up to the plate in any of the games in the Cavs vs Magic series).
    So the Cavs having SG-Joe Johnson who offer so much help to the PG & SF position on both sides of the court would be the final piece the Cleveland Cavs would need to win a Title this 2009-10 season.
    Lebron will have to play SG the majority of his playingtime throughout the playoffs with Jamison & Hickson as the SF/PF, and Varajao at C/F, depending on the health and shape of how many straight minutes can Shaq & Big Z body take throughout each series.

    Do Lebron want Bosh in Cleveland with Varagao, Jamison, and Hickson? Hell No! maybe before Jamison arrived.
    Do Lebron want Cleveland to go out and find away to sign FA Joe Johnson to win a couple of titles the next 4 seasons? HELL Yeah!
    I wonder who tossed in the word "Knicks" into a conversation of Lebron speaking on having a Joe Johnson caliber SG on the Cavs to be complete.

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    Rumor This is not a RUMOR

    I will apologize to every member in this FORUM next season if any of the Three Max FA Players (Lebron, D.Wade, or Bosh) sign with an incompetent Donnie Walsh and his celebrity coach Damntoni that cant coach NBA B-Ball.


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