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    Default Congrats D'amntoni on 50 Losses...Again!

    Ahh, another 50 loss season, thanks Mike No-D! how I admire your 8-man rotation, no defensive scheme, love of Duhound, not fouling when up by 3 with seconds left in the game, your poor communication skills with Marbury, N8, Hughes, etc., and especially your holier-than-thou, not-my-fault-we're-losing attitude and your stoic band of yes men. you are one of the worst Knick coaches I have ever seen, I dread watching and listening to you. Do you really think winning is all about the SSOL, and NOT defense? Why are you NOT starting Douglas at the end of the season? c'mon, what is up with Duhon?? what have you got to lose? face? you've lost enough potato face already, you mustachio moron! I hate you! How unfortunate that Donnie will keep you around, so you can have your 2 new max agents go wild with no offensive or defensive game plan. prove me wrong, D'assholio, and I will eat my words. Your substitutions suck ass, you don't belong in New York City! you and D'an D'an can go eat a big ****. oh, yeah, you already did. 50 losses and counting!!! wooo-weee!! way to go, D'amntoni!

    ps: sorry for the offensive language folks!

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    Give D'antoni a break! He is the only coach in NBA history who doesn't deserve to get blamed for anything.Remember, he was brought in here to start coaching this team once his third season with the Knicks got underway.

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    Chill CoolClyde...

    Once we pair Lee...

    oops... I mean once we resign Lee for $10+mil...

    then we pair him with a real big man center like Camby...

    And Gallo gets his feet under him...

    and we sign Joe Johnson...

    and trade for CP3...

    and trade for Rubio...

    and wait two more years (b/c Douglas needs three years like Gallo to develop)...

    and draft 3 more bench warmers...

    then "Rightly So" we wait another three years for them to develop and proove to us worthy...

    and we start running SSOL just like PHX when they won 50+ games and...

    then and only then can we expect more.

    Is that how it goes guy's? Or only Euro players allowed three years to develop?

    O'well by this time next year, we will be tearing the league up! Yup it will be a new day, one in which the league fears our ability...

    to outscore them!


    ...with like 150 points per!

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    What's with all the D'antoni hate here? Seriously, if anyone here could coach the Knicks to a better record why waste valuable minutes of your life posting on a forum? Why not go to the commissioner's office and ask for a coaching position in the Knicks' organization? I'm sure that if you made a quarter of Mike D'antoni's salary you would look at the Internet Basketball Community as a bunch of pions who have too much time in their hands.Maybe someone here could write a book entitled,"20,000 Ways to Express Your Resentment Towards Mike D'antoni".

    Does anyone actually think that the more they complain about a particular athlete or coach, the more vibes they will send to him? Do people think that these vibes will eventually lead to the departure of this athlete or coach? I would have loved to believe in something like this had it resulted in the Knicks making the playoffs more than once in the last 9 years.But the truth is that you could rant and rave about the Knicks and their pathetic organization until you're blue and orange in the face, but you'll be wasting time that could have been used more wisely.

    I am not knocking the people who come to this forum for emotional alleviation.Some of us let out our frustrations by breaking our remote controls into thousands of pieces, others unleash their emotions by writing 3 thousand word essays on why they hate the coach of their team.Whatever your reason is for being a devote member of Knicks Online, I respect that.I just honestly believe that some of us shouldn't get too carried away by our opinions.
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    Originally Posted by CoolClyde
    Ahh, another 50 loss season, thanks Mike No-D! how I admire your 8-man rotation, no defensive scheme, love of Duhound, not fouling when up by 3 with seconds left in the game, your poor communication skills with Marbury, N8, Hughes, etc., and especially your holier-than-thou, not-my-fault-we're-losing attitude and your stoic band of yes men. you are one of the worst Knick coaches I have ever seen, I dread watching and listening to you. Do you really think winning is all about the SSOL, and NOT defense? Why are you NOT starting Douglas at the end of the season? c'mon, what is up with Duhon?? what have you got to lose? face? you've lost enough potato face already, you mustachio moron! I hate you! How unfortunate that Donnie will keep you around, so you can have your 2 new max agents go wild with no offensive or defensive game plan. prove me wrong, D'assholio, and I will eat my words. Your substitutions suck ass, you don't belong in New York City! you and D'an D'an can go eat a big ****. oh, yeah, you already did. 50 losses and counting!!! wooo-weee!! way to go, D'amntoni!

    ps: sorry for the offensive language folks!
    id rather an 8 man rotation than 40 lineup changes in a season...
    love of duhon? the same duhon who was benched and got DNP's after all star break?
    does a coach really have to tell an NBA PLAYER to foul in a situation like that? my *****, what are u in the league for???
    marbury, n8 & hughes are nobody's in the league today. marbury couldnt take a chineese team to theplayoffs. some people are forgetting marburys 100 million he stole from us. we got the best out of the n8 deal. hands down.
    worst knick coaches??? you forget isiah thomas so quickly my friend.
    SSOL? we dont have a run and gun system anymore. if u been watching knick games and not box scores u would see this.
    douglas receives most of the pg duties....he just put up 20 last night. Douglas is not a seasoned vet....he's a rookie....who makes rookie mistakes.
    At the end of the season he did go out and get a centre tho. why is that move not noted?? lee now plays PF. this is a huge thing. it has to mean we are getting bosh. lee needs to adjust to the pf spot.
    his substitutions suck ass? who the hell are you bringin on?? bender? house? giddens? how about we get eddy curry up off the bench so he can improve dantoni's substitutions.

    who expected this team to make the playoffs? this is a throw away season fellas. we were competitive, we had excitement, and won a few games on the way.

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    Ok, i really don't think it's the coaches fault as much as it is the players. Lets go back in time when we had Lenny Wilkens, Larry Brown, Isiah Thomas as head coach. I've been seeing this time and time again, you CAN'T COACH EFFORT. I really can't blame the coach that much because I'm sure he emphasized defense day in and day out to the players but its whether or not the want to play D. We had mostly defensive minded coaches during the decade and they can't even help the Knicks win. Why? because you can't coach effort and players basically quit on the coaches. I believe this cleansing of the team is good becuase we have a chance to actually get players that want to win. I'm looking forward to a good season next year.

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    On another note, you can tell that Dantoni has come to the realization that TD is not suited as a lead PG. Anytime TD is on the court now he is playing alongside Duhorn or S.Rod. I've always said that TD is a scorer and that's it. He has trouble running a break which usually results in him taking a tough shot or making a bad pass.

    Sorry to disappoint some of you but TD will not be the starting pg next year. He may get valuable minutes off the bench as an off guard but he won't be counted on the run the team too often.

    With that said, I wonder how TD will fit into the rotation with a healthy Chandler and possibly Joe Johnson coming aboard. At 6ft tall he would easily become a liability on defense as a SG. Either he works REALLY hard this off-season on his PG play or he could easily see reduced minutes. Obviously this all depends on the acquisitions made this summer.

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    we said this when we drafted TD that he would play a similar roll in the upcoming years to barbosa with better defense and more intensity. Other than that it is quite obvious that our players are the main reason we fail. I mean really lets go position by position

    C we have none
    PF lee is a top ten
    SF not even in the top 15 or 20
    SG we have none
    PG bench players starting

    BENCH

    WE have none.


    How do you coach winning basketball with this type of roster.

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    Wait 3 years, Red? You kidding me - we've waited long enough... there's no reason we shouldn't be contending next season.. just like the Celtics.

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    First in time in the forum guys!!!!! Well the only things i hate about mike is his freaking lineup changes wow and the love for he has for duhon wacthing him start him pisses me off ...we could of been talking playoffs if he played toney and jordan at the start of the season...next season this team is going to be diffrent we will see how it goes ... If it goes bad fire his ass hire baron scott or mark jackson or avery johnson ..plus his mustache is anoying

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    Originally Posted by Knicker23
    Wait 3 years, Red? You kidding me - we've waited long enough... there's no reason we shouldn't be contending next season.. just like the Celtics.
    That was sarcasm.

    P.S. F*ck Boston!

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    I agree with all the sentiment, but hey, it's my rant, and my book to write I just don't like the coach, no matter what happens. God bless Donnie for putting us in position to improve team 100%, but I still think D'amntoni is a sh*tty coach whose positive record at Phoenix was based on Steve Nash being PG supreme.

    I believe a defensive-minded coach, who has respect for his players as opposed to attitude, who doesn't stick players in the doghouse to teach them lessons, who didn't push his godson on this team when we needed a PG or C, played the rooks more, and spread out the rotation, would have done a lot better with this team than Pringle has done. As evidenced by a decent December, this team was able to win games. Hell, any well-coached team is able to win games if executing properly. D'assholio was surprised that N8 was able to score 41 after he benched him for a MONTH, that was a BAD MOVE. He was surprised that Douglas was able to win games single-handedly, and then he puts Duhound back at starting PG? That's what really gets my goat and made me mad as hell. I believe in TD.

    Re "Coach Thomas" - IT was not supposed to be Knicks coach in the first place, that was another poor (rich man) James Dolan decision.

    Perhaps D'anteater just can't run a non-SSOL offense? I mean, any coach who preaches offense over defense sucks ass. word to y'all...

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    Originally Posted by knicksin60
    What's with all the D'antoni hate here? Seriously, if anyone here could coach the Knicks to a better record why waste valuable minutes of your life posting on a forum? Why not go to the commissioner's office and ask for a coaching position in the Knicks' organization? I'm sure that if you made a quarter of Mike D'antoni's salary you would look at the Internet Basketball Community as a bunch of pions who have too much time in their hands.Maybe someone here could write a book entitled,"20,000 Ways to Express Your Resentment Towards Mike D'antoni".

    Does anyone actually think that the more they complain about a particular athlete or coach, the more vibes they will send to him? Do people think that these vibes will eventually lead to the departure of this athlete or coach? I would have loved to believe in something like this had it resulted in the Knicks making the playoffs more than once in the last 9 years.But the truth is that you could rant and rave about the Knicks and their pathetic organization until you're blue and orange in the face, but you'll be wasting time that could have been used more wisely.

    I am not knocking the people who come to this forum for emotional alleviation.Some of us let out our frustrations by breaking our remote controls into thousands of pieces, others unleash their emotions by writing 3 thousand word essays on why they hate the coach of their team.Whatever your reason is for being a devote member of Knicks Online, I respect that.I just honestly believe that some of us shouldn't get too carried away by our opinions.
    u should change your name to "DantoniShow".....all that u wrote above is all BULLSHEEEET!!!
    Nothing personally to u for being a fan favorite of Damtoni, u showed u do have B-Ball knowledge, but when a player or coach "change" teams they have to accept the "change" by doing everything in their power to better their new situation.

    Watching "Knicks in 60" may not show u the entire game, but it does show u all the errors of the Knicks headcoach.
    Last season (2008-9) u seen 50 (loss) reasons why Damntoni wasnt capable of coaching the Knicks.
    This season (2009-10) u already seen 51 (loss) reasons why Damntoni does not have the capabilty to coach the Knicks and the season is not over yet.

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    The (28-51) Knick situation past and present

    Last night Knicks 103-118 loss vs the Orlando Magic headcoach Stan Van Gundy (who called-out Damntoni infererior-coaching and Walsh cluelessness in choices of coaches), out-coached Damntoni in every facet of the game using a "2-UNIT" lineup throughout the 48 minutes of the game.
    SVG was showing-off his coaching ability in "team-ball" using a 10-man rotation where u dont need a "STAR" player to win games.
    Orlando's 2nd unit off the bench in the 2nd half of the game ate the Knicks up alive.

    The Knicks were a "2-unit-rotation-team" the day headcoach Damntoni was hired.
    The Knicks were a "2-unit-team" when Damntoni had his first Knick preseason game (in 2008-9), and was a "2-unit-rotation team" the following 2009-10 preseason games.
    When a team dont have any "Super-Star" players or Star players on their roster, but do have a few young upcoming star players with alot of decent individual talent players in offense and defense within the roster, a real NBA coach will utilize all that talent to make three different lineups:
    1) the best offensive lineup
    2) the best defensive lineup
    3) and the best offense/defense (Starting) lineup.
    However, headcoach Damntoni small-rotation of players in a game is only for rotations that have a Super-Star with Star players in the rotation.
    Inwhich the Knick roster did not have.

    When Isiah Thomas departed from the Knicks, the new regime plus new headcoach inhereted 6 young rookie contract players wanting playingtime to be apart of the new coach team-system, along with a 6th lottery draft pick. The majority of the other 8 veteran players on the roster just wanted Isiah Thomas gone so they could play winning basketball (with 4 of those veteran players contract expiring before the 2010 offseason to lower cap space).

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    Originally Posted by CoolClyde
    I agree with all the sentiment, but hey, it's my rant, and my book to write I just don't like the coach, no matter what happens. God bless Donnie for putting us in position to improve team 100%, but I still think D'amntoni is a sh*tty coach whose positive record at Phoenix was based on Steve Nash being PG supreme.

    I believe a defensive-minded coach, who has respect for his players as opposed to attitude, who doesn't stick players in the doghouse to teach them lessons, who didn't push his godson on this team when we needed a PG or C, played the rooks more, and spread out the rotation, would have done a lot better with this team than Pringle has done. As evidenced by a decent December, this team was able to win games. Hell, any well-coached team is able to win games if executing properly. D'assholio was surprised that N8 was able to score 41 after he benched him for a MONTH, that was a BAD MOVE. He was surprised that Douglas was able to win games single-handedly, and then he puts Duhound back at starting PG? That's what really gets my goat and made me mad as hell. I believe in TD.

    Re "Coach Thomas" - IT was not supposed to be Knicks coach in the first place, that was another poor (rich man) James Dolan decision.

    Perhaps D'anteater just can't run a non-SSOL offense? I mean, any coach who preaches offense over defense sucks ass. word to y'all...
    Great post. I agree with almost everything you stated, except the stuff about Walsh. Walsh can go get off the team, too, IMO.

    That is what the D'Antoni supporters don't realize. Even if he gets the talent to win, he is so obsessed with his ego and playing favorites with his rotations and shoving players into doghouses that the team still might not be able to get passed the first round of the playoffs, or even to the playoffs with him as coach. Plus, any coach that cares more about knocking down 3s than playing defense is going to handicap their team by doing so. Defense has to be a #1 priority to consistently win in the NBA.

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