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    Rumor Donnie is thinking of making these moves this off*season

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    Robert Currence on Apr 21, 2010

    Full Disclosure these moves are completely unsubstantiated but do come from a source inside the Knick organization. But I am curious on what you folks think.

    Donnie Walsh has not given up on trying to pry Ricky Rubio from Minnesota, there is a plan to offer Bill Walker and our 2 second round picks for Rubio's draft rights.* The second move is a do over of a move that did not work at the trading deadline.* Walsh still has his man crush on Tyrus Thomas and if he can't sign him outright, he is considering a sign and trade for him.* Charlotte supposedly has some interest in Al so he might try to sign Al and trade him to Charlotte for TT Boy.* The third option *is to go get Ramon sessions to pair with TD in the back court. That one is the least believeable because it involves Sergio which would require the Knicks to make a qualifying offer and sign him first.

    In an unrelated unconfirmed rumor, David Lee is higher on Walsh's list than the old boy is letting on, by pretending to be disinterested Donnie is hoping to drive down the price for Lee. It appears that Donnie has a hard as concrete ceiling of 10 mil as the highest he is willing to pay Lee.* But supposedly the interest is so high that behind Bos, Lee is his second choice.* Well what do you think. Personally with the exception of bringing Lee back at a good price I hope all of these are full of hot air.

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    All except Rubio of course. The guys a mad PG and plays some snakey, Ginobili-esque, Euro on ball and off ball defence. One of the best passers in the world too.

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    Donnie Walsh biggest problem as a President:
    but do come from a source inside the Knick organization.
    First thing Walsh better do is find and Fire all these "sources inside the Knick organization" that is snitching all his bussiness to media and the next team.

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    Donnie Walsh biggest problem as a President:


    First thing Walsh better do is find and Fire all these "sources inside the Knick organization" that is snitching all his business to media and the next team.
    I don't believe in inside sources. Mostly that means some journalist made it up and he needs some evidence. If that is not to be found they just cite some anonymous source inside the organisation.

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    I don't want Rubio anymore.

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    Personally, I like these. I would still like to see Rubio as a Knick. And not having to give up Chandler is a bonus. Walker + our 2nd round picks is a great deal. And who else that may be available could run D'Antoni's system? Chris Paul obviously, and he should be our first choice. But it will be difficult to get him and N.O. may ask for too much.

    A Bosh/Thomas frontcourt is pretty freaking good. Much better than a Bosh/Lee or Lee/Thomas froncourt. And this still leaves plenty of space to get some other very good players to fill out the roster.

    PG-Rubio
    SG-Anthony Morrow
    SF-Gallo
    PF-Thomas
    C-Bosh

    I'll take that lineup.

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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    I don't want Rubio anymore.
    Just curious...what soured you on this guy? I mean, you were all about him at the draft last year. What changed?

    The only thing I can think of (and I somewhat agree) is perhaps we don't want a guy like Rubio who decides if he doesn't like where he is drafted he just won't go. It's the NBA equivalent of taking your ball and going on home...kind of a bitch move. But I think the talent is certainly there, and he would flourish in D'Antoni's system.

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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    I don't want Rubio anymore.
    Why??I think we need a PG, my dream is Paul but if is not possible,Rubio is a GOOD CHOICE.....

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    Originally Posted by LJ4ptplay
    And who else that may be available could run D'Antoni's system?
    That's exactly another issue w/ having this coach during this "rebuilding" phase.

    No one- short of all-star, MVP Steve Nash can run this (sold as) seemingly innovative offense! -Smh.

    WARNING DONNIE... don't get caught up in the "he needs certain players to be successful" crap!

    YOU (Donnie Walsh) know what contending teams need. If that contradicts what this petty, ego driven fool wants... **** him!

    PS... why would Bosh play here? His options are to play along side Wade-Lebron-Rose on their current respective teams. that means he has shooters/scorers/ball handlers- stars that take pressure off of him... the Knicks can only offer Joe Johnson and future cap relief next year and that's IF Johnsom signs.

    Donnies only real hope is to bring in BOTH targets like Bosh and Johnson and they BOTH agree to sign simultaneously. I can't think why a top tier player would do that rather than join CHI-MIA or even NJ.

    The time to BUILD an attractive roster has EXPIRED! Now what? A whole bunch of 2nd to 3rd tier players and more D'Antoni spin doctor excuses!

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    Originally Posted by Red
    That's exactly another issue w/ having this coach during this "rebuilding" phase.

    No one- short of all-star, MVP Steve Nash can run this (sold as) seemingly innovative offense! -Smh.

    WARNING DONNIE... don't get caught up in the "he needs certain players to be successful" crap!

    YOU (Donnie Walsh) know what contending teams need. If that contradicts what this petty, ego driven fool wants... **** him!

    PS... why would Bosh play here? His options are to play along side Wade-Lebron-Rose on their current respective teams. that means he has shooters/scorers/ball handlers- stars that take pressure off of him... the Knicks can only offer Joe Johnson and future cap relief next year and that's IF Johnsom signs.

    Donnies only real hope is to bring in BOTH targets like Bosh and Johnson and they BOTH agree to sign simultaneously. I can't think why a top tier player would do that rather than join CHI-MIA or even NJ.

    The time to BUILD an attractive roster has EXPIRED! Now what? A whole bunch of 2nd to 3rd tier players and more D'Antoni spin doctor excuses!
    100% agreed. It really makesme laugh when people use Dantoni's "system" as a way to judge talent. The "system" was and always will be predicated on a superstar by the name of Nash and it may be futile to try and duplicate that. I agree that Donnie has had plenty of success in IND and should know what it takes to build a contender.

    Constantly trying to find players who fit into this "system" will ultimately start to complicate things. Milicic and Hill were great for their teams but we couldn't use them all because of the "system".

    DEATH TO THE "SYSTEM"!!!!!!!! JUST PLAY DEFENSE MAAAAANNNN!!!!!!!!!!

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    Getting back on subject, I would love Rubio but would rather send Chandler instead of Walker. I just have this feeling that Walker will turn out to be the player he was always projected to be before the knee injuries.

    Walker is 10x better than any of us thought he would be and I'm sure he's only going to get better. In order for Chandler to get better, he has to be more aggressive and I don't see that happening so lets trade him now that he has a bit of value.

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    So we're going to trade MORE picks PLUS Bill Walker for a guy who isn't even eligible to play next season?

    SMH.... No thanks.

    Tyrus Thomas? David Lee?

    SMFH!!! That's a serious falloff....

    It's all LEBRON OR NOTHING!!!

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    Originally Posted by Red
    That's exactly another issue w/ having this coach during this "rebuilding" phase.

    No one- short of all-star, MVP Steve Nash can run this (sold as) seemingly innovative offense! -Smh.

    WARNING DONNIE... don't get caught up in the "he needs certain players to be successful" crap!

    YOU (Donnie Walsh) know what contending teams need. If that contradicts what this petty, ego driven fool wants... **** him!

    PS... why would Bosh play here? His options are to play along side Wade-Lebron-Rose on their current respective teams. that means he has shooters/scorers/ball handlers- stars that take pressure off of him... the Knicks can only offer Joe Johnson and future cap relief next year and that's IF Johnsom signs.

    Donnies only real hope is to bring in BOTH targets like Bosh and Johnson and they BOTH agree to sign simultaneously. I can't think why a top tier player would do that rather than join CHI-MIA or even NJ.

    The time to BUILD an attractive roster has EXPIRED!
    Now what? A whole bunch of 2nd to 3rd tier players and more D'Antoni spin doctor excuses!


    Red.....u get a "A+" for this one
    I couldnt have written it any better

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    Originally Posted by nyk_nyk
    Getting back on subject, I would love Rubio but would rather send Chandler instead of Walker. I just have this feeling that Walker will turn out to be the player he was always projected to be before the knee injuries.

    Walker is 10x better than any of us thought he would be and I'm sure he's only going to get better. In order for Chandler to get better, he has to be more aggressive and I don't see that happening so lets trade him now that he has a bit of value.
    That is the point. This thread topic begs the question; why would Walsh do any of this?

    is it to please this coach?

    Donnie knows better than to hope for the playoffs w/o a legit big.

    Donnie knows he's given D'ant what he's asked for in Duhon and getting rid of Marbs and Milicic etc...

    so to me he's being a good supporter of D'Ant and nothing so far...

    will he continue searching for answers that don't exist or will he smarten up?

    cause if he don't... we are f*cked in more ways than one!

    as I posted in the other thread...

    we're building this unconventional roster, for this unconventional coach but we're taking loses conventionally by neglecting our D. Now you want to sell me on another euro player...

    Oh hell no! why not just keep the carosel going until he finds his "fit" GTFOH!

    N*ggas is acting like this system is proven like the triangle. It isn't!

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    Originally Posted by Red
    That is the point. This thread topic begs the question; why would Walsh do any of this?

    is it to please this coach?

    Donnie knows better than to hope for the playoffs w/o a legit big.

    Donnie knows he's given D'ant what he's asked for in Duhon and getting rid of Marbs and Milicic etc...

    so to me he's being a good supporter of D'Ant and nothing so far...

    will he continue searching for answers that don't exist or will he smarten up?

    cause if he don't... we are f*cked in more ways than one!

    as I posted in the other thread...

    we're building this unconventional roster, for this unconventional coach but we're taking loses conventionally by neglecting our D. Now you want to sell me on another euro player...

    Oh hell no! why not just keep the carosel going until he finds his "fit" GTFOH!

    N*ggas is acting like this system is proven like the triangle. It isn't!
    Originally Posted by Red
    That's exactly another issue w/ having this coach during this "rebuilding" phase.

    No one- short of all-star, MVP Steve Nash can run this (sold as) seemingly innovative offense! -Smh.

    WARNING DONNIE... don't get caught up in the "he needs certain players to be successful" crap!

    YOU (Donnie Walsh) know what contending teams need. If that contradicts what this petty, ego driven fool wants... **** him!

    PS... why would Bosh play here? His options are to play along side Wade-Lebron-Rose on their current respective teams. that means he has shooters/scorers/ball handlers- stars that take pressure off of him... the Knicks can only offer Joe Johnson and future cap relief next year and that's IF Johnsom signs.

    Donnies only real hope is to bring in BOTH targets like Bosh and Johnson and they BOTH agree to sign simultaneously. I can't think why a top tier player would do that rather than join CHI-MIA or even NJ.

    The time to BUILD an attractive roster has EXPIRED! Now what? A whole bunch of 2nd to 3rd tier players and more D'Antoni spin doctor excuses!
    Great points. Walsh made the mistake of doing whatever the coach Dyke M'Anphony wanted him to do, instead of trying to get the best available players(Brook Lopez, Brandon Jennings, Andre Miller, etc). The Knicks did not need a 2010 plan. All they had to do was draft the right players and wait until 2011, when all of the Knicks' large contracts would have expired, and the Knicks would have been a playoff team. This summer, it's all or nothing for Walsh. And it was his lack of a backbone that got him into this make or break situation.

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