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    Here are just a couple examples of dogs displaying altruistic behavior. There are many documented cases of chimpanzees, elephants, dolphins and dogs performing altruistic acts. Many religious people state that altruism only exists in humans and is evidence that we are created by a god, which is simply not true.

    Regardless, these are amazing stories. Particularly the second one. The dog tries to pull the injured dog off the highway and instead of using it's teeth, it uses its paws, so as to not further harm the injured dog, to pull it off the highway.

    Dogs Rule!




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    Dogs do rule. Too bad I'm allergic. Always wanted one. You get me the monkey man and you win.

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    Originally Posted by Knicks4lyfe
    Dogs do rule. Too bad I'm allergic. Always wanted one. You get me the monkey man and you win.
    Already have and already won. Just waiting for that imaginary friend to come destroy the world.

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    You never shown me the monkey man. You've shown me primate or homo species, every time. One or the other. You know better. Actually on facebook getting updated on my weekly evolutionary discussion. Pretty good stuff on both sides. But still, no monkey man.

    However, Isaiah 2-4 did happen to come true.

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    Either way, it is never simple with people. Simple makes exposing the lies too easy.

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    Originally Posted by Knicks4lyfe
    You never shown me the monkey man. You've shown me primate or homo species, every time. One or the other. You know better. Actually on facebook getting updated on my weekly evolutionary discussion. Pretty good stuff on both sides. But still, no monkey man.

    However, Isaiah 2-4 did happen to come true.
    No. Wrong. Flat out wrong, on both. I'm not going to do this again with you even though you want to. This thread was to show altruism in animals.

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    Originally Posted by LJ4ptplay
    No. Wrong. Flat out wrong, on both. I'm not going to do this again with you even though you want to. This thread was to show altruism in animals.
    Do things of your own accord. You never showed a half man half primate remains in any of your post. Why? Because its never been found. Point blank. Don't lie to yourself.

    And you def never tackled Isa 2. But I'm done too.

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    Originally Posted by Knicks4lyfe
    You never shown me the monkey man. You've shown me primate or homo species, every time. One or the other. You know better. Actually on facebook getting updated on my weekly evolutionary discussion. Pretty good stuff on both sides. But still, no monkey man.

    However, Isaiah 2-4 did happen to come true.
    A simple Google search can easily prove the bible wrong:

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    This clearly shows evidence of evolution and multiple hominid species. If you are talking about the "missing link" that is irrelevant as other records clearly show the transition.

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    Originally Posted by TR1LL10N
    A simple Google search can easily prove the bible wrong:

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    This clearly shows evidence of evolution and multiple hominid species. If you are talking about the "missing link" that is irrelevant as other records clearly show the transition.
    And I will refer you here which for some apparent reason all the evolutionists on board here seem to be inconspicuosly absent.
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    Originally Posted by LJ4ptplay
    Already have and already won. Just waiting for that imaginary friend to come destroy the world.
    Romans 1:22 "Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools"

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    Originally Posted by Paul1355
    Romans 1:22 "Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools"
    You believe that we have to telepathically tell an invisible being that we love him because we are inherently evil because a woman made from the rib of a man was convinced to eat a fruit by a talking snake.

    You are the fool claiming to be wise. You have zero evidence. You have not once shown irrefutable evidence to support your claims. And I have. I base my beliefs on facts. Irrefutable facts. You base your beliefs on impossible stories with zero evidence. Not a shred. Zero. Zilch. Fool.
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    Originally Posted by LJ4ptplay
    You believe that we have to telepathically tell an invisible being that we love him because we are inherently evil because a woman made from the rib of a man was convinced to eat a fruit by a talking snake.

    You are the fool claiming to be wise. You have zero evidence. You have not once shown irrefutable evidence to support your claims. And I have. I base my beliefs on facts. Irrefutable facts. You base your beliefs on impossible stories with zero evidence. Not a shred. Zero. Zilch. Fool.
    Look at yourself. I didn't call you a fool, the Apostle Paul called you a fool in Romans 1:22 and then you call me a fool....the Bible has powerful words doesn't it? Words that bring conviction to everybody, even you.

    You claim there is no evidence...I really don't want to argue with close minded mocking atheists(even Richard Dawkins is more open minded than what you've shown to be on this website).
    Because you said "zero evidence" let me just defend My Lord Jesus Christ real quick....

    I'll make the claim Jesus existed...a few historians who back me up that was not an apostle, or prophet in scripture that you would blow off as being a witness? I'll name a couple but not all of them...Josephus, Tacitus, Suetonius, Phlegon, Lucian of Samosta all talk about Christ existing and being crucified during the reign of Tiberius and at the hands of Pontius Pilate.

    All this takes is lowering your pride and doing some research.

    A little taste of archeological evidence....From the radio show "The Book and The Spade" by Gordon Govier and Keith Sohoville.
    An inscription at a Roman theater in Caesarea Martima reading, "Pontius Pilate, prefect of Judea".
    An inscription found in Northern Israel mentioning King David's dynasty. The inscription is the oldest reference to any Biblical figure outside the Bible.
    The discovery of an ossuary, a stone box used for retaining bones of the deceased, inscribed with the name of Caiaphas, the high priest who presided over the trial of Jesus shortly before his crucifixion.
    From the Jerusalem Christian Review
    JERUSALEM - Israeli archeologists have uncovered a 1st century cave, in a suburb south of Jerusalem, which served as a tomb to a family of disciples of Jesus Christ.

    The burial cave, carved in the mountainside, off the Kidron Valley, contained several coffins, with names engraved on their sides, as well as signs of the cross. These inscriptions identified the cave as the burial vault of the Barsabas family. This family is well known to us, since several of its members are mentioned in the book of Acts. The tomb remained hidden for nearly 2000 years.

    Eminent Jerusalem Historian, Prof. Ory N. Mazar, states that "at least some members of this family were among the very first disciples of Christ."

    This is an archaeological find of Peter's house in Capernaum [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
    Okay you got a little taste of Jesus and the people during the crucifixion existing, and I even through in Peter's house for you which is only 1 of the many findings.

    There is even a whole medical evalutation to the death of Jesus....
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    LJ I barely even tried on this one.

    I found one site...it shows plenty of evidence.

    Some more facts you should be aware of- The Bible was written from 66 different authors, a time period of over 1,000 years of recorded events with archaeological evidence supporting the time span of events that took place...consisted of people with many different backgrounds ranging from a common fisherman like Peter to an intelligent high ranking Pharisee like Paul along with tax collectors etc, so these people were not all poor with no education and they were tortured and martyred, even be-headed for something they knew existed or else they would have given up, they didn't and got killed, justifying that what they saw they knew was true.
    Most of the world shuts out the possibility of a God because all they think about is the miracles and ignore the simple stories, locations, events in the bible that were true and accurately documented...once the pieces add up and the evidence builds, you have no choice but to believe or else you would be fooling yourself.

    If you knew God existed would you submit to Him? That's a hard question, especially since most humans are loaded with pride and don't want to bow to no one, not even if they knew God existed.

    This will obviously piss you off and challenge you entirely, which is why the story of Jesus makes any unbeliever mad at Him, just like the Pharisees were. He challenged the world and how they went about their business and He told them that they were wrong, people don't want to hear they are wrong even when they are convicted, so they killed him and continued their sin and desires.

    No man was ever like Jesus and no story was ever as powerful or as influential as His. You know this to be true. Did you know Jesus loved every person that mocked, spit, and tortured Him in his last day on Earth? "Forgive them Father for they do not know" he said. He asked God the Father to forgive them!!! Now ask yourself why.

    Think about it LJ.....

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    Originally Posted by LJ4ptplay
    Here are just a couple examples of dogs displaying altruistic behavior.
    Dogs Rule!
    Here's another one:


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