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    Here's another thing

    Rautins is 23. He will be 24 years old by the time the 2010 NBA season is a month in.

    Why the **** are we drafting a 24 year old? Are we high?

    Donnie, if you like Landry Fields so much, SIGN HIM AFTER THE DRAFT BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE WAS DRAFTING HIM

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    Originally Posted by mafra
    People need to chill. I hate the second pick as much as anybody, but after 20 years of bitter disappointment when it comes to the draft.... are we really surprised? The sad thing is.... we traded away 3 first rounders (Hill + 2 future selections) just to dump 6 million bucks off the 2010 payroll.

    Imagine what will happen if we fail to land a big time free agent or two? Complete disaster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Still, this smells like trading Wilson Chandler is definitely an option. It might not be plan-A, but... POR dealt Webster away. Drafted a PG. I'm just saying.

    Rautins was a good pick. He would fill the JJ Redick role if we get LJ. Just an option to come off the bench, and serve as a sniper. At 38, our options were/are limited.

    I thought we should take one shooter and one big. Alibi, Jordan or Varnado.

    BUT WE HAVE TO SEE THE ROSTER come Sept to judge. Heck, what if we sign Bosh or Amare, and LJ? Keep Curry or deal Eddy for Okefor. Would we really need Jarvis Varnado then?

    BUT, if Walsh gets nothing and swings and misses come free agency.... COMPLETE DISASTER.

    However, only a fool would make the Jeffries deal unless he felt (heard) he had a better than 50/50 chance to land LJ. Say, for example, someone saying LJ will come to NYC ONLY if you can bring Bosh as well? Who knows. Find out next week.
    We are in a catch-22 If we had say the 5th pick in the draft and picked the exact same player it STILL would not guarantee LJ here and reduce cap flexibility. Look, the heat may keep 2 of the 5 they picked in the 2nd round. The bulls drafted someone who is not coming there. If Pat Riley does not get LJ he is the bigger fool because he has gutted his team and all the way to the core.

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    Default no center, no defense

    no center, no defense.
    d'amntoni = no defense, no center
    makes perfect sense for an imperfect team.

    could've sworn Knicks would choose Sol's Alibi when he dropped down so far.
    the skinny center was top pick available for the entire 2nd round.

    chicago and miami have outsmarted Donnie Walsh's PLAN 2010,
    both teams have better core players and better coach.
    can't see any top tier F.A. maxi-pads coming our way...
    wtf?

    Donnie Walsh is the master...baiter


    fan-f*cking-tastic!
    poor x-'cuse for a draft!
    Andy Rottens?

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    Im still mad. A ****ing Wilson Chandler trade that brings in significant talent better go down within the next 5 hrs or something man.

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    Originally Posted by SSj4Wingzero
    Here's another thing

    Rautins is 23. He will be 24 years old by the time the 2010 NBA season is a month in.

    Why the **** are we drafting a 24 year old? Are we high?

    Donnie, if you like Landry Fields so much, SIGN HIM AFTER THE DRAFT BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE WAS DRAFTING HIM
    Walsh was dazed when MIL stole Hobson from him. He almost had no other plan, so decided to simply take the best shooter left. I have no clue on the other pick.

    BUT, we could sign Zoubek & Scheyer after the draft. No bet Varnado will be better than Zoubek. Heck, or even better than Earl Barron.

    Rautins is a great pick if we sign LJ. Having him and Gallo on the wing, with Bosh baseline.... That is a nice offense right there for LJ the point-forward.

    Let's wait and see what happens in free agency.

    I bet Fields is getting traded to POR, or Chandler (for the PG they drafted and Rudy Fernandez).

    Knowing us, we take Varnado and Alibi dominates, or vice-versa.

    If we really wanted to make a splash, we should have traded for Dominique Jones like DAL did. He's like D-Wade-lite.

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    Originally Posted by mafra
    BUT WE HAVE TO SEE THE ROSTER come Sept to judge. Heck, what if we sign Bosh or Amare, and LJ? Keep Curry or deal Eddy for Okefor. Would we really need Jarvis Varnado then?

    BUT, if Walsh gets nothing and swings and misses come free agency.... COMPLETE DISASTER.

    However, only a fool would make the Jeffries deal unless he felt (heard) he had a better than 50/50 chance to land LJ. Say, for example, someone saying LJ will come to NYC ONLY if you can bring Bosh as well? Who knows. Find out next week.
    If we got Okafor, Bosh, and LeBron James, we would STILL need a center because Okafor is decent but we have NO depth at the Center position off the bench (unless you're in the minority that thinks Earl Barron's decent 7 games means he's all of a sudden a solid bench contributor).

    If we got Okafor, Bosh, and LeBron, we'd STILL need a point guard, and we STILL don't have one. Jarvis Varnado would help because like it or not Bosh isn't great on defense and he could've come in as a defensive stopper.

    If we get LeBron James and Chris Bosh we're STILL stuck with the fact that we have five small forwards (LeBron, Gallo, Chandler, Walker, Fields) and no interior defense whatsoever (Varnado, Alabi, etc. would've helped that) and NO depth at the guard position (Chandler can play SG but he's not that good, Rautins looks like a catch and shoot player off the bench at best, and Walker is decent but injury prone and not really starting material. Even if Walker and Chandler handle the role fine we still need a point guard which we don't have)

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    Originally Posted by SSj4Wingzero
    Here's another thing

    Rautins is 23. He will be 24 years old by the time the 2010 NBA season is a month in.

    Why the **** are we drafting a 24 year old? Are we high?

    Donnie, if you like Landry Fields so much, SIGN HIM AFTER THE DRAFT BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE WAS DRAFTING HIM
    Dude... Patrick Ewing was 23 when we drafted him = senior

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    Rautins is experienced. Play for the Canadian national team. He can shoot and he can defend and is a great passer, and most of all. HE HAVE BASKETBALL IQ and he will never be a **** up or a cancer. He will sit on that bench for years to come if he have to. A great TEAMMATE.

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    Originally Posted by SSj4Wingzero
    If we got Okafor, Bosh, and LeBron James, we would STILL need a center because Okafor is decent but we have NO depth at the Center position off the bench (unless you're in the minority that thinks Earl Barron's decent 7 games means he's all of a sudden a solid bench contributor).

    If we got Okafor, Bosh, and LeBron, we'd STILL need a point guard, and we STILL don't have one. Jarvis Varnado would help because like it or not Bosh isn't great on defense and he could've come in as a defensive stopper.

    If we get LeBron James and Chris Bosh we're STILL stuck with the fact that we have five small forwards (LeBron, Gallo, Chandler, Walker, Fields) and no interior defense whatsoever (Varnado, Alabi, etc. would've helped that) and NO depth at the guard position (Chandler can play SG but he's not that good, Rautins looks like a catch and shoot player off the bench at best, and Walker is decent but injury prone and not really starting material. Even if Walker and Chandler handle the role fine we still need a point guard which we don't have)
    I think Douglas is fine, and I also think we'll be trading for a PG or signing one (Shaun Livingston). Varnado is a solid HELP defender, but he'll get eaten alive down in the post by the likes of Shaq, Howard and big NBA centers.

    I agree. I would have taken a C, but I have to wait and see the big picture before I flip out. What if Zoubek agreed to sign with us if he goes undrafted? Are you sure those other guys are a lock to be better options?

    If we get LJ and BOSH, people will come begging to play wiith us!

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    CALM DOWN Everbody!


    Our Savior is not going to be found in the second round!


    Lets be real.....one of if not both of our picks will likely not be in the league 4 years from now as is the case for most of the second round players drafted!

    I mean do we just draft a Center of PG for the sake of doing so?

    Wojciech Mydra was one best collegiate shot blockers, did that materialize to a solid NBA career?

    Ed Cota was a legend at UNC running the point one of the All Time Leading assist men in College and he wasnt drafted


    Point being.... in the second round you draft the best player available, trying to fill a need in round 2 is like trying to find your dream car on a random used car lot! Or like trying to find your dream girl at a drunken Mardi Gras party

    So hopefully we made the most of at least one of the picks we made.


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    Originally Posted by CoolClyde
    no center, no defense.
    d'amntoni = no defense, no center
    makes perfect sense for an imperfect team.

    could've sworn Knicks would choose Sol's Alibi when he dropped down so far.
    the skinny center was top pick available for the entire 2nd round.

    chicago and miami have outsmarted Donnie Walsh's PLAN 2010,
    both teams have better core players and better coach.
    can't see any top tier F.A. maxi-pads coming our way...
    wtf?

    Donnie Walsh is the master...baiter


    fan-f*cking-tastic!
    poor x-'cuse for a draft!
    Andy Rottens?
    We don't even have a semblance of a front court let alone a center.

    **** the Russian Roulette style man!

    Either Donnie's in the know, or he's gonna go solely after James with only a city to sell, and a team full of players that play the same position as he does.

    At this stage, not one poster here can deny that everything is a big, festering poo.

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    Kevin Pittsnoogle II to the Celtics.

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    Originally Posted by New New York
    CALM DOWN Everbody!


    Our Savior is not going to be found in the second round!


    Lets be real.....one of if not both of our picks will likely not be in the league 4 years from now as is the case for most of the second round players drafted!

    I mean do we just draft a Center of PG for the sake of doing so?

    Wojciech Mydra was one best collegiate shot blockers, did that materialize to a solid NBA career?

    Ed Cota was a legend at UNC running the point one of the All Time Leading assist men in College and he wasnt drafted


    Point being.... in the second round you draft the best player available, trying to fill a need in round 2 is like trying to find your dream car on a random used car lot! Or like trying to find your dream girl at a drunken Mardi Gras party

    So hopefully we made the most of at least one of the picks we made.
    Thank You for seeing the light

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    Originally Posted by CoolClyde
    no center, no defense.
    d'amntoni = no defense, no center
    makes perfect sense for an imperfect team.

    could've sworn Knicks would choose Sol's Alibi when he dropped down so far.
    the skinny center was top pick available for the entire 2nd round.

    chicago and miami have outsmarted Donnie Walsh's PLAN 2010,
    both teams have better core players and better coach.
    can't see any top tier F.A. maxi-pads coming our way...
    wtf?

    Donnie Walsh is the master...baiter


    fan-f*cking-tastic!
    poor x-'cuse for a draft!
    Andy Rottens?
    Miami has no core and no coach there ARE ONLY 2 PLAYERS ON THE ROSTER; WADE & BEASLEY. They are trying to get rid of Beasley as we speak

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    Originally Posted by flknickfan
    Dude... Patrick Ewing was 23 when we drafted him = senior
    Patrick Ewing was also drafted in an era where most players finished college. It isn't like nowadays when any player worth half his salt is usually out of college by sophomore year. When was the last time a college senior actually made a decent NBA impact? Never, that's when - because players that stay in college for 4 years usually stay because they have no shot of getting drafted in the first three.

    Patrick Ewing also came out of college considered to be one of the top prospects of all time. Scouts thought he was going to change the way the center position was played. He was so highly touted and everybody knew that he was unquestionably the #1 pick in that draft.

    Andy Rautins isn't anywhere close. He's undersized, slow, and unathletic. He might be a decent player, but why not take your chances with Lance Stephenson instead, who has freakish athleticism and is FIVE YEARS YOUNGER?

    Or Solomon Alabi who has a skill that's actually rare and hard to find (ie being really tall)? Rautins might not be a terrible pick but he's nothing special.

    Don't even get me started on Landry Fields - we shouldn't have drafted him because NOBODY was going to - we could've signed him as an undrafted free agent and used our second pick on Solomon Alabi.

    And you're right - Varnado will get eaten alive by some big guys, but so will Earl Barron, Chris Bosh, and Emeka Okafor. It just doesn't make sense to me.

    It'd be one thing to take the best player available if there was some rationale behind it - ie you don't want to be like the Blazers and pass on Michael Jordan because you already have a SG.

    But Andy Rautins is not Michael Jordan, and neither is Landry Fields. Neither of them looks like an NBA starter, to be quite honest.

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