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    Rautins = Hubert Davis 2.0

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    From what i have read the guy can shoot it really well. 80 percent of his career FG's made have been deep balls. He wont be a superstar but championship teams need specialists. Paxson, Kerry, Horry, Elliott, etc.
    Gives u 10-15 minutes and drops a few 3's.
    2nd round picks are a toss up. The reward can be high if he turns out to be productive. we shall see.

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    Originally Posted by clumsy
    LMAO you also just told me everything i need to know about Mr. Rautins.

    If he's not close to Reddick, a fringe NBA niche player, then he isn't a NBA Player period.

    Terrible draft pick.
    Idiot hey need role players and court leaders. How many court leaders do we have on the Knicks? None. Rautins is a born leader. This shows you have never watched a Cuse game. I only went to about 10 or so this past season! BORN LEADER, FUTURE NBA 6 MAN! We needed Rautins.. Really wanted him. He is a stud. You idiots. Don't question Walsh

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    Originally Posted by nyk_nyk
    Rautins = Hubert Davis 2.0
    Honestly for the 37th pick i'd take Hubert Davis 2.0

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    Originally Posted by jpz17
    Idiot hey need role players and court leaders. How many court leaders do we have on the Knicks? None. Rautins is a born leader. This shows you have never watched a Cuse game. I only went to about 10 or so this past season! BORN LEADER, FUTURE NBA 6 MAN! We needed Rautins.. Really wanted him. He is a stud. You idiots. Don't question Walsh
    NBA isn't the college game...not at ALL.

    He's not a born leader in the NBA0. You think dudes in the NBA get all hype when some dude who can barely even make a roster tries to fire them up. They will probably laugh in his face and tell him to play some defense or learn how to beat someone off the dribble before he opens his trap.

    The NBA is a talent driven league, which is why i think it is so much better than the College game....bull**** intangibles are not involved. He's not good enough to play in the NBA and was a terrible choice if we are gambling on a 2nd rounder to pan out.

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    How many of you posting on this thread have actually watched this kid play instead of reading draftexpress or watching youtube videos?

    From what I've seen from watching him play:

    -His athleticism is under rated.
    -The kid is a leader especially when he is telling guys like Wes what to do.
    -His perimeter defense is good.
    -He has a very nice stroke.
    -Wonderful work ethic

    In no way am I saying he is a starter or an all-star. Chances of a 2nd rounder belonging in those categories are a shot in a dark.

    How many of you thought David Lee of all people was going to be an all-star forward from watching him in college?

    His athleticism is less then stellar, and he had a basic offensive game. It was his attitude, work ethic, and hustle that has made him surpass anyone's expectations of him.

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    Dude he's slow.....he's not quick for college...how can he be quick in the NBA. That translates into EVERY facet of the NBa game.

    Speed/explosion/body types are my #1 things when evaluating a player. Character is my #2.

    Headcases with crazy athleticism are better gambles in my opinion. If getting a star free agent this offseason is not guarenteed, i don't see why we aren't drafting gambles as opposed to role players.

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    All I can say. You guys will be surprised. Andy Rautins is a TEAMPLAYER with high Basketball IQ. Luke Walton suck but Lakers keep him year after year for what he brings to the table. A team needs a guy like that. Rautins is that guy..

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    Here's a profile of his dad Leo the 14th pick in the 1983 draft. His dad was a bust although he had knee problems and you that old saying about the apple not falling too far from the tree.


    Leo R. Rautins (born 20 March 1960 in Toronto, Ontario) is a former professional basketball player, the current head coach of the Canadian national men's basketball team, and an NBA analyst for the Toronto Raptors.

    Rautins was a star in high school for St. Michael's College School in Toronto, the University of Minnesota for his freshman year of college, and Syracuse University for three seasons, the autumn of 1980 through to the spring of 1983. As a Golden Gopher, Rautins was named first-team All Big-Ten rookie, averaging 8.3 points, 4.1 rebounds, and 3.9 assists a game. As a member of the Orangemen, he averaged 12.1 points, 5.0 assists, and 6.2 rebounds. He is the first player ever to record a triple-double in Big East play, accomplishing the feat twice in the span of a month during his senior year. He was named All Big East third team and Honorable Mention All American that year.

    The 6 ft 8 in, 215 lb Rautins was the first Canadian ever drafted in the first round of the NBA Draft going 17th overall to the Philadelphia 76ers in the 1983 Draft. He was a disappointment however as an NBA player. Hampered by knee problems, he played in 28 games as a rookie with the Sixers, averaging just 7 minutes a game, 1.5 points, 1 assist, 1.2 rebounds, and 0.7 turnovers. He went on to play 4 games for the Atlanta Hawks the following season, averaging a mere 3 minutes a contest before leaving the NBA to play in Europe. Rautins played in Italy for Serie A1 team Banco Roma (1985-1986) and Serie A2 team Citrosil Verona (1986-1987), in France with Pau Orthez (1989-90 and 1992), and in Spain (1991-92). At the time of his retirement, he had undergone a total of 14 knee operations.

    When Rautins made his debut for the Canada senior national team in early 1977 while still age 16, he was the youngest player in the team's history. This record would last until August 2010, when Rautins named Toronto-area high school phenom Kevin Pangos, also 16 but younger than Rautins was at his debut, to the squad for a tour of Italy.[1] Rautins completed his national team playing career in 1992 as Canada was eliminated in the Tournament of the Americas, the Basketball qualifying tournament for the Barcelona Olympics.

    Upon retirement, Rautins became a basketball commentator, most notably with the Toronto Raptors television network. A member of Canada's Basketball Hall of Fame, he was named head coach of the Canadian National Team in February, 2005. Rautins' son Andy is a graduate of Jamesville-Dewitt High School and a former member of the Syracuse Orange men's basketball team, now drafted by the New York Knicks of the NBA. He and his wife have three other sons.

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    All I know is this - his athleticism isn't all that high.

    We still have use for him though. He's a good 3 point shooter, and that would fit in D'Antoni's system...but that doesn't excuse not picking up Willie Warren or Solomon Alabi, who are good players at positions we needed.

    If we're lucky he'll be OK. He's a hard worker, though.

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    Originally Posted by SSj4Wingzero
    All I know is this - his athleticism isn't all that high.

    We still have use for him though. He's a good 3 point shooter, and that would fit in D'Antoni's system...but that doesn't excuse not picking up Willie Warren or Solomon Alabi, who are good players at positions we needed.

    If we're lucky he'll be OK. He's a hard worker, though.
    Word is teams were scared off of Alabi b/c of a medical issue. Of course the same story applied to D-Blaire last year.

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    I think he will be good in the system

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    No matter how you twist it, it was a crap pick because we needed size. Not happy 3 point leprechauns.

    I don't care how good he is, we don't need him.

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    Originally Posted by Crazy8s
    No matter how you twist it, it was a crap pick because we needed size. Not happy 3 point leprechauns.

    I don't care how good he is, we don't need him.
    Wrong, we lost many games because we had no sharp shooters which resulted in Gallo over shooting and getting a brick every game. We need sharp shooters, especially in this system, BUT getting two guards surprised me. Size is our biggest need.

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    Originally Posted by clumsy
    Dude he's slow.....he's not quick for college...how can he be quick in the NBA. That translates into EVERY facet of the NBa game.

    Speed/explosion/body types are my #1 things when evaluating a player. Character is my #2.

    Headcases with crazy athleticism are better gambles in my opinion. If getting a star free agent this offseason is not guarenteed, i don't see why we aren't drafting gambles as opposed to role players.
    Where does having one great skill factor in?

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