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    With all this talk about Amare and JJ being our back up plan I can think of a million thing i would rather spend money on.
    Here is my favorite emergency plan I've came up with.
    Rather than spending max money on non-max players why not spend significantly less money on slighty lesser players?

    David Lee- 12 mil
    Brendan Haywood- 8 mil
    JJ Reddick- 7 mil
    Shaun Livingston- 4 mil

    This gives us a potential starting 5 of-
    Livingston
    Reddick
    Gallo
    Lee
    Haywood

    with a bench of
    Chandler
    Walker
    Douglass
    Jordan
    Rautins
    Fields
    Curry

    I tend to like that alot better than any 5 we could make with Johnson and Amare unless we trade Curry's contract for a good C. Best thing about this plan is that it doesnt kill our cap going foward, while I think we can contend with our lineup. Maybe i'm completely wrong but I think that this is as good of a winning formula possible without lebron wade or bosh.

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    Originally Posted by Danilo
    With all this talk about Amare and JJ being our back up plan I can think of a million thing i would rather spend money on.
    Here is my favorite emergency plan I've came up with.
    Rather than spending max money on non-max players why not spend significantly less money on slighty lesser players?

    David Lee- 12 mil
    Brendan Haywood- 8 mil
    JJ Reddick- 7 mil
    Shaun Livingston- 4 mil

    This gives us a potential starting 5 of-
    Livingston
    Reddick
    Gallo
    Lee
    Haywood

    with a bench of
    Chandler
    Walker
    Douglass
    Jordan
    Rautins
    Fields
    Curry

    I tend to like that alot better than any 5 we could make with Johnson and Amare unless we trade Curry's contract for a good C. Best thing about this plan is that it doesnt kill our cap going foward, while I think we can contend with our lineup. Maybe i'm completely wrong but I think that this is as good of a winning formula possible without lebron wade or bosh.
    the fact that your paying JJ Redick 7 million dollars should be a red flag to stop what your saying.

    Redick is a bench player...this is an isiah thomas move.

    PLUS Andy Rautins is has been compared to redick...we don't need two guys that play exactly the same and one overpriced player to start 2010.
    Your other deals are good though.

    I like Lee at 12 mil
    Haywood for 8 mil is pushing it
    Livingston for 4 mil is solid
    And your lineup MIGHT make the playoffs

    You gotta get someone besides Redick.

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    Where is the game changer on that team? The last 9 years should have taught Knick fans that you can't be a competitive team in the NBA with nothing but role players unless your coach is Rick Adelman or Scott Skiles.

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    Originally Posted by knicksin60
    Where is the game changer on that team? The last 9 years should have taught Knick fans that you can't be a competitive team in the NBA with nothing but role players unless your coach is Rick Adelman or Scott Skiles.
    True that.

    And how on earth are you gonna give Roddick $7M!? Bill Walker at $1.5M is 137498361841 times better. The kid can hit the 3! Is it only me who watched him play?

    Haywood deserves MLE kind of cash, probably less. Mike D will never add a player like Haywood anyway.

    Livingston at $4M is ridiculous as well. A solid end of season stint is worth no more than $1.5-2M, as with Barron.

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    I agree that D'antoni wouldnt go after a true 5 like Haywood, but he should. As for money I think he commands at least 8 mill, maybe only a 3 yr deal but hes a C in his prime. Bill Walker is more talented than JJ, yes, but he failed to produce in college and in the nba other than glimpses last year. Redick was one of the most prolific scorers in college history that finally broke out last year and shot 40% from 3. Maybe he doesnt get 7 mill but his qualifying offer with the magic is 6 mill so i cant imagine him being had for less than that. Joe Johnson fits in just as well there but Id take Redick for 10 mil less than johnson anyday of the week.

    Edit- and Livingston played very well for the Wizards at the end of the year, id be surprised if he doesnt get MLE money.

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    JJ Redick got a whole lot better this season and the haters obviously did not watch Orlando play this year. He's a hell of a lot better than other sharp shooters like Mike Miller and Kyle Korver, and to say Andy Rautins can match his production is laughable.

    He'll probably get close to the full MLE, or just above it with another team, or 4-6 million. 7 is not a completely unrealistic number.

    While I like him, that being said, I don't want him as our starting shooting guard. Livingston is way too injury prone for me to give him that contract. Lee hopefully we can get for a bit less than that because we're NY, like 10-11, and Haywood at 8 is expensive but we'd probably have to offer that to have a chance with him.


    IF Gallo turns into 20pt/6reb/2as/1bl/1stl like I hope, that's a playoff team. But a lower seed that is bouced in 1 series.

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    It's funny how John Salmons flies under the radar! Dude was the difference maker for CHI and MIL the last 2 seasons....

    Heck, Knicks could sign guys like Shaun Livingston, Raymond Felton, John Salmons, Mike Miller, Brad Miller, Brendan Heywood, Ryan Gomes (going to be released)... Kyle Kover, Amir Johnson, Channing Frye, Luke Ridnour & Travis Outlaw.

    Plus restricted free agents such as: Rudy Gay, Anthony Morrow, Jordan Farmar and Tyrus Thomas (and JJ Redick like you mentioned).

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    Plenty of decent options, upgrades that would help this team.

    Would you prefer to give max contracts to Joe Johnson and/or Amar'e; or to David Lee; and then plug in 2-4 of these aforementioned fellows, along with some trades (Curry-Chandler)?

    If anything, an added bonus would be to see Douglas-Gallo-Walker become the players we need them to be. A starting PG, a true #3 option and 6th-man of the year candidate.

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    John Salmons isn't a D'Antoni player. He plays defense well and is offensively inconsistent. Because he was the Bucks MVP too he will be lookiing for too much money.

    However a guy we can take a chance on for SG and pay him less money is Josh Howard. He also isn't a D'Antoni player, but he had a bad season which doesn't match his prior body of work, so we could probably get him cheap.

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    Also Tyrus Thomas or Brendan Haywood at center as backup plans. I'd rather have Tyrus just cuz he is a beast athletically.

    If all FA's fall through David Lee and Tyrus is a ok front court. Hopefully one of our big men can pan out between Barron, and Jordan as well

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    1.) Retain Lee's Bird Rights at $10.5 mil

    2.) Sign Rudy Gay at $13 mil

    3.) Sign Tyrus Thomas at $6 mil

    4.) Sign Steve Blake at $4 mil

    5.) Trade Curry + Chandler to Golden State for Biedrens + sign-and-trade of Anthony Morrow

    6). Now sign Lee at $12 mil


    PG-Blake
    SG-Gay
    SF-Gallo
    PF-Lee
    C-Biedrens

    bench = Douglas, Morrow, Thomas, Walker, Barron

    Can go small/quick when need offense with:
    PG-Blake
    SG-Morrow
    SF-Gay
    PF-Gallo
    C-Lee

    Or defensive with:
    PG-Douglas
    SG-Walker
    SF-Gay
    PF-Thomas
    C-Biedrens

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    Originally Posted by LJ4ptplay
    1.) Retain Lee's Bird Rights at $10.5 mil

    2.) Sign Rudy Gay at $13 mil

    3.) Sign Tyrus Thomas at $6 mil

    4.) Sign Steve Blake at $4 mil

    5.) Trade Curry + Chandler to Golden State for Biedrens + sign-and-trade of Anthony Morrow

    6). Now sign Lee at $12 mil


    PG-Blake
    SG-Gay
    SF-Gallo
    PF-Lee
    C-Biedrens

    bench = Douglas, Morrow, Thomas, Walker, Barron

    Can go small/quick when need offense with:
    PG-Blake
    SG-Morrow
    SF-Gay
    PF-Gallo
    C-Lee

    Or defensive with:
    PG-Douglas
    SG-Walker
    SF-Gay
    PF-Thomas
    C-Biedrens
    Tyrus thomas accepted his player option or the bobcats accepted the team option...im not sure what option it was but Thomas is locked in with CHarlotte for one more year...sorry

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    Originally Posted by Paul1355
    Tyrus thomas accepted his player option or the bobcats accepted the team option...im not sure what option it was but Thomas is locked in with CHarlotte for one more year...sorry
    When did this happen?

    All I've seen is that Charlotte has extended the qualifying offer to Thomas. That doesn't mean he's signed. It only makes him a restricted free agent and allows Charlotte to match any offer.

    He's still a free agent, as far as I can tell, and can go anywhere he wants, if Charlotte doesn't match.

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    Tyrus Thomas hasnt signed a dotted line yet, frankly he has no reason to. The bobcats made their qualifying offer of i believe 6.1 mil. He will see if he can get more as a FA. He is a slightly undersized PF though at 6-8 in shoes, I don't get why everyone here things he is a C.

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    Originally Posted by Crazy8s
    True that.

    And how on earth are you gonna give Roddick $7M!? Bill Walker at $1.5M is 137498361841 times better. The kid can hit the 3! Is it only me who watched him play?

    Haywood deserves MLE kind of cash, probably less. Mike D will never add a player like Haywood anyway.

    Livingston at $4M is ridiculous as well. A solid end of season stint is worth no more than $1.5-2M, as with Barron.
    I agree, giving Reddick and Livingston that kind of money would be very similar to the awful Shandon Anderson and Howard Eisley trades.If the Knicks acquired those two players they would be no better than they were before Randolph and Crawford were traded.

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    Try to sucker the T-wolves into taking Eddy Curry to relief their capspace for Al jefferson. Sign Parker and Melo in 2011. Don't want JJ unless he brings in LeBron.

    Plan B:
    Parker/Douglas
    Chandler/Routins
    Gallo/Walker/Fields
    Melo
    Jefferson

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