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    Starting to wonder where all these "leaks" are coming from? Methinks someone in LJ's camp is toying with the media.

    'He's going here, nope he's going there. Done deal.' Blah blah.

    Almost like the only consistent thing in this whole ordeal is that he WONT go to NY, and that the Knicks have no legitimate chance to compete next season.

    I think the KNICKS or CLE has been the choice all along for Lebron. Like the NY Dailey news reported this morning:

    "I think that's a big mistake," said one prominent head coach. "I would never underestimate [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. It was a stroke of genius to get the Knicks under the cap and I would guess he did it knowing he has a strong chance of getting LeBron."

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    This is all a marketing ploy. Sort of like a race, and the Knicks are going to be "the dark horse" coming up from the outside to take the lead at the last moment. (See article below)

    Rumors that LJ will go here, there, anywhere but NY only drive the stock on NY down, and LJ's camp will cash in on this scenario buying low.

    LJ doesn't want it to appear that he planned all along to bolt for NY so they create this illusion.... Almost like chosing NY is the last resort, least attractive option and had nothing to do with basketball.

    If he goes to CHI or MIA he attaches himself to other players, diminishing his legacy.... and it appears he escapes fro OHIO b/c he couldn't deliver a title without help.

    Now it appears LJ turns down a sure title in CHI, MIA (heck, even NJ with the way this is getting out of hand).... but he goes to NY and now they'll say winning isn't important to him.

    That he opted out for NYC just because he wanted to big in the big city, to elevate his brand....

    And then when he turns NY around and they contend next year.... this ONLY ENHANCES his legacy. Heck, NY is the one place he can go where he wont be expected to reach the Conference finals.

    Makes you think?

    Lebron James isn't thinking where is the best place to win a title next season, or the next 3 years.... He has loftier expectations.... And he certainly doesn't feel like he needs to be surrounded by 3 HOF players to win. He has an ego, and feels he can make players around him better.

    If the Knicks show up in CLE with Joe Johnson on board.... Lebron James will be a Knicks faster than than his team can gobble up stocks in the NYK.

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    THERE'S STILL TIME - TRUST ME

    by Tommy Dee

    So I’m sitting having dinner before I go on the air on The Daily Line last night, and I see at the bottom ticker on ESPN that James Dolan will be meeting with [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] and I got to thinking, “this thing is a horse race.”

    I thought, “is Dolan going to Ohio national news?”

    Bear with me for a moment as I digress. You know that I always found the whole “anti-Knicks” approach from the national media suspicious. Then I put my marketing hat on and I’m convinced that this thing is scripted. The Knicks will be the dark horse coming from the outside because it’s been planned for over a year to stir up interest level across each market.

    [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]? Well, I got on the horn with a well-connected Wall Street source and, being a big Knick fan, has a handle on the CBA. I know, I know, I’ve told you that sources are lame, but hear me out. I found it more suspicious that Forbes, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (guess who) Cablevision, saying the league would have an issue, never refuted the story themselves. So the source with as much knowledge with hoops as the finance game hit me with:
    “One of Lebron’s inner circle can take his money and invest and it’s not illegal. It’s only illegal if Lebron does purchases or if the agreement is part of the player contract. After he signs he can do whatever he wants.”
    Because the players association regulates it. Which means, Team Lebron can buy fair market price and make a zillion dollars depending on how profitable the Garden is over James’ tenure. Imagine that. If they all of a sudden make it to the playoffs and ultimately a championship, obviously the shares will multiply exponentially.

    You would think that a reputable publication like Forbes would correct itself. Yet, again, they never refuted.

    Interesting, no? Almost as if someone cleared their proverbial throat and said…”uh hum…shut up...” and let it dissolve into history.

    They can also, I don’t know, own merchandise, a network, a label, etc.
    This is their pitch, and it’s been confirmed through a source with direct knowledge of The Garden’s planning.

    Back to the network stuff. Remember, 1050 ESPN radio casts out of 2 Penn. That initially screams business arrangement. Always has.

    Another thing of note is to track [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] News surrounding the Knicks getting “shut” out hurts the stock making the upside higher. MSG has rallied but the 52 week range is 16.35 – 23.04, and it sits at 19 and change. For what it’s worth, Cablevision sold at $50 roughly in June of 1994 and close to 90 dollars per share in [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Obviously, the markets were much stronger, but you get the idea.
    And let’s not forget about the renovations’ impact on share price.

    To me, reports are telling ESPN national followers that the Knicks are dormant, and I wouldn’t expect to change just yet. Because, like, for example, the Brett Favre situation, it’s designed to stir the pot. Get different markets jazzed. And I believe there’s an agreement to make MSG’s owner look like a hero heading into Ohio on a white horse
    This is business over journalism.

    The Nets, according to a source, are players, but longshots. But based on business, journalism and logic (and, again sorry, but a few sources) the Knicks are major players still, regardless of what the national media says. They want you to read. They want you to tune in.

    We here want you to get the whole story.

    Again, to me, Lebron isn’t going to Miami, he’s not going to Chicago. It just doesn’t make sense. Never did. It has to be NY or Cleveland, and based on the pitch they will bring Thursday, NY seems financially and business-wise impossible to resist.

    Will James? We’ll see. But I don’t think he, or his team, can.

    At least, that’s the way I see it. The Knicks are in a great position come Thursday. Is it a “done deal?” No. But neither are the others.

    But based on their pitch and the network coverage, there seems to be an answer to my suspicion as to why the Knicks aren’t mentioned.

    At least the way I see it.

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    I always found it odd that in Larry King's interview the Knicks were not mentioned once even though they were the most publicized team in free agency.

    I also found it odd that once lebron to the Knicks became a possbility when they traded jared Jeffries, all of the Bulls and Heat rumors came out.

    Then to sports anaylsis, it wasn't about fame or money anymore...which it is always about to these players, all of a sudden the players start caring about the rosters.

    Players think about themselves and themselves only. The dream team in Miami sounds sweet but with all the ego's I still find it hard to go through after all the pitches Lebron and Bosh will have about having their own destinies and not sharing it with Wade.

    The dream team can happen, but Wade will always be the Paul pierce, the guy that can score 15 points while James scores 25 but Wade will get the praise and the mvp nominations...because he has been there longer than everyone else and he is the leader.

    As good as James and Bosh are, they will be 2nd to Wade in miami.

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    I just think Miami is sleeping on their basketball culture too much. I mean, NY is crazy about basketball and so is Chicago... Why would you want to play somewhere that college football is more popular then NBA basketball?

    This theory is crazy and out of left field, but it's just as viable as any other theory that comes from LeBron and "sources" and blah blah blahhhhh

    I'm really looking forward to July 1st when league executives will be able to talk openly about what is going on and LeBron is free to sign wherever and we can just get our roster solidified for next season. I've been waiting so friggin' long that I just want something to go down so I can go and buy a jersey!

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    interesting read.

    like i said in another thread, its funny how for the past 2 seasons we were the favs to sign him. Even with media outlets knowing we werent the only ones clearing cap in hopes of signing him we still were looked at as the main competition to cavs. Even our divisional rivals fans chanted us as bron made his playoff exit.

    then suddenly we drop from fav to barely mentioned at all. even the mavs who lack cap space and needed a long shot sign and trade began to get more respect as possiblity then us. something just seems fishy

    the spin this article speaks on makes perfect sense if he really is trying to bolt for ny. like i keep telling people this isnt a 1 yr deal. people are acting like bron has to win it all next season. where ever he goes it will be for the next 6 yrs and over the course of tht duration with our cap flexibility along with a owner willling to go over the luxury tax were as good as a landing spot as any. thats even mentioning the other intangibles such as location, endorsements etc.

    im feeling even more confident hes coming. i can see it. no my glasses aint rose colored, just my jewelry lol

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    It's just funny how people are acting like J-Noah is Bill Russell, or that Wade is 25 and playing in a fresh body....

    Bottom line: People point their finger at our roster and scuff at the notion we can compete.

    WELL, if Joe Johnson, a PF (Bosh, Lee, Amar'e) and Lebron James agree to take a few million less than the max, recoup some money in bonuses and offcourt deals (tied to winning titles), then we would be STACKED. Add to the fact we would have enough cap space to sign C-Anthony next season.

    Talk about a dream team.

    And, to be honest, where better place for the dream team to play than Manhattan? Don't give me the tired old "Well, FLA has no state tax." There's a reason for that people....

    Also, isn't only fair that the stars ALL flee and meet in a neutral city? Why should Bosh and LJ have to join Wade in MIA?

    Sure, they could meet in CHI or NJ, but they aint bringing the show to Newark. When push comes to shove - Dolan proved that he will pay over the luxury tax threshold, CHI wont.

    You get Joe Johnson and Lebron James, sign one of the PF, toss in a player like Luke Ridnour... WOW!

    Ridnour
    Johnson
    LJ
    Gallo
    Lee/Bosh/Amar'e

    Chandler, Douglas, Walker, Curry, Rautins, Barron, Jordan

    You telling me this isn't as good as what CHI-MIA can offer?

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    Great, great read. It really may be overlooked that when decisions start getting made the FA supremes start taking "pay cuts" to come here.

    Its already been --proven-- that NYC is where they --will-- ultimately make the most money.

    A relatively measly couple mill less on a --base-- salary is nothing.

    When it can assure the type of roster Mafra has detailed. The sheer fire power, synergy, and future flexibility no less, over the backdrop of age is unprecedented.

    In NYC.

    They are all assured a legacy and financial bottom-line that can't be touched by any other team we are competing against.

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    Originally Posted by iSaYughh
    Great, great read. It really may be overlooked that when decisions start getting made the FA supremes start taking "pay cuts" to come here.

    Its already been --proven-- that NYC is where they --will-- ultimately make the most money.

    A relatively measly couple mill less on a --base-- salary is nothing.

    When it can assure the type of roster Mafra has detailed. The sheer fire power, synergy, and future flexibility no less, over the backdrop of age is unprecedented.

    In NYC.

    They are all assured a legacy and financial bottom-line that can't be touched by any other team we are competing against.
    Exactly. And, aint it only fair that ALL superstars signing on to play in this DREAM TEAM.... that all relocate. Why should Bosh-Lebron have to head to Wade? If they all agree, it should be in a new place for all parties involved.... So the team is theirs, not Wade and his pals.

    Plus, Riley has quit on his team a few times. LJ wont be swayed by that slickster. D'ant will let these guys fly.

    Still have hope. Enjoy this moment. It might not get any better than this - we still have hope!

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