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    look i think we just need two playes right now to be a playoff team that either be felton or ridnour i pefer felton and bring another big like a kurt thomas and if t-mac is willing to come back for cheap them him to but look at this squad

    felton/toney
    t-mac/bill walker/azabokie/rautins
    danillo/wilson/fields
    amare/randolph/
    tufriaf/thomas/jordan/curry

    dont know who whould go best at c between randolph/turiaf/thomas

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    Originally Posted by King Ewing
    WE PLAY NO DEFENSE WHAT SO EVER. NONE! ZERO!

    And here's a news flash, Amre doesnt play defense ether. This team sucks, we'll put up 110, and loss becaue we gave up 118.
    With the new additions we will be markedly better defensively. It's true that Amare isn't the beast he once was on the defensive end, but he still a better presence then Curry or anyone else we have. So I don't know how you can say we haven't improved defensively with the guys we brought in to sure up the defensive end.

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    Originally Posted by Speak3asy
    With the new additions we will be markedly better defensively. It's true that Amare isn't the beast he once was on the defensive end, but he still a better presence then Curry or anyone else we have. So I don't know how you can say we haven't improved defensively with the guys we brought in to sure up the defensive end.
    David Lee plays better defense down low then Amare, and he's a better rebounder. On top of that, Amare wont dive for a ball, never. David Lee would jump 10 feet and dive into the stands to save a loose ball, if you think Amare would do anything close to that you're fooling yourself.

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    I'm confident. I wanted LeBron but it's over, and it'll be even sweeter when we knock off that 3-man-team in the spring.

    Gallo is gonna shine. Randolph is gonna grow. I'm gonna miss David Lee but the trade as worth it. I'm kinda loving the Lee deal. He got paid, and the Knicks didn't have to pay for it, AND the Knicks got compensation.

    Douglas
    Walker
    Gallo
    Amar'e
    Randolph

    And that's as is right now with no further free agent help. They still got about $13MM to spend. Maybe sign Ridnour for cheap as a backup. NO long-term commitments at the point, Donnie should just push hard for Parker a year from now.

    Really gotta hand it to Donnie. Don't really know how much time he has left in the organization, seeing as these past few weeks is basically what he signed up for, but he did everything he set out to do. Got under the cap, and turned the Knicks into a franchise set up to win. I trust my franchise with Donnie Walsh.

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    Originally Posted by King Ewing
    David Lee plays better defense down low then Amare, and he's a better rebounder. On top of that, Amare wont dive for a ball, never. David Lee would jump 10 feet and dive into the stands to save a loose ball, if you think Amare would do anything close to that you're fooling yourself.
    stop hating man im sick of so called fans on her talking **** about their so called "team". blah this blah that we cleared all that cap just for Amare. we suck at defense. Would u rather have zach randolph and jamal crawford? Were moving in the right direction, by adding some players who play better defense than david lee and having the flexibility add more.

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    Originally Posted by King Ewing
    David Lee plays better defense down low then Amare, and he's a better rebounder. On top of that, Amare wont dive for a ball, never. David Lee would jump 10 feet and dive into the stands to save a loose ball, if you think Amare would do anything close to that you're fooling yourself.
    Ummm I have a hard time thinking that David is better defensively then Amare. Also this isn't college. I don't see people diving on the floor that much in the reg season as opposed to in the playoffs. David was a heart and hustle player and will be missed, but to say that he is better then Amare at the defensive end at being a presence in the middle that is something I can't get on board with. If that were true then we would not have given up easy layups last year on a regular and consistent basis and David would have been a key to preventing that. He wasn't unfortunately.

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    Great thread. I agree 100%, Metro is on point on this one.

    Miami just traded Beasley to the Wolves to make room for The Queen's salary. They'll have Chalmers, Bosch, Wade, The Queen and a bunch of minimums. The rest of the association hates them so no one will be helping them build their team any time soon. Sorry to see D. Lee go, he was our warrior, but Golden State's hooking us up; he's their warrior now and I wish him all the success in the world. Anyway, not only would Miami be very beatable, they'd be a whole lot of fun to beat. Our future as a team is a lot brighter than the Heat's in my opinion. It will get really messy in Miami when the Wade-Queen honeymoon is over. Bosch? F%^$k Bosch!!! He's a bigger Queen than The Queen... He's got lowpostphobia. You better believe STAT is better then Bosch. Can't wait to see STAT do a Starks on them and dunk on their over-rated 3.

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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    Stoudimire is honestly a top 3 big man in the NBA, at worst. Potential to play as the best in the league. Most dynamic scorer at his position and clearly an unstoppable force and an awesome first option to have on offense. His scoring from inside range will make our offense much more efficient. Plus the fact Amare can give you 9-10 rebounds 1-2 blocks a game and hit the mid range J just makes everything sweet.

    Randolph is only 20...he's an athletic point forward who can handle the ball, rebound, and block shots. I see him average 14 ppg 9 rebs and 1.8 blk with 2.9 assist

    Gallinari, you guys know the deal. I expect him to put up Rashard Lewis type numbers for us plus more...he's a huge threat...and a perfect compliment to Amare.

    Turiaf can pass, block shots, defense, rebound and bring energy...a player who plays to win and will bring alot of good energy to the locker room. Glad to have this tough happy son of a bitch on our team.

    Azubuike...explosive athlete with long arms, solid defense with 3pt range...excels in the open court...ala the full court fast break D'Antoni offense. Perfect player off the bench.

    Walker...one of the best leapers in the NBA, smooth player with a skilled game and a bag of tricks. 3pt range. Potential to be a good defender. Dedicated worker, lost 20 pounds this summer...expect more quickness and agility from an already established slasher. Plays above the rim like no one else. 15 ppg potential...JR Smith type numbers.

    Douglas...another guy who can defend and hit the 3...awesome combo guard who can score off the bench or as a starter.

    Chandler...Rudy Gay's depressed cousin. He can produce numbers even when playing lathargic. Great post defender, can rebound and slash. Just needs to stay way from the 3pt line and try to play like Marion.



    I'm loving this team right now. I really am happy. We have a nice young squad.

    I don't want LeBron here...I want us to win a championship without selling our franchise to a scumbag.

    Lets rejoyce and be happy we're building a good team.

    Thank you Donnie, thank you.
    Co-sign. I'm happy as well and we do have a good team.

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    Metro - Nice post, it's coming together. After being crushed by Lebron, we need a little optimism around here. Donnie has some more money to spend so we can only get better.

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    I think we've got a playoff bound team, plus we've got cap room and a tradable Eddy Curry contract. The Knicks are definitely a more attractive option for any future free agents or trades.

    I'm hoping all this Miami stuff is going to fuel some more Knicks/Heat rivalry and push us towards some excellent play against them.

    -EDIT-

    Also, I hope this fiasco now puts an end to the whole cheering for other team's players at MSG.

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    Originally Posted by lilman_bklyn
    LOL... GOOD TEAM? TOP 3 BIG MAN? Can beat Miami? Whats your definition of good team? better than the clippers, if so then yes we are a good team... Top 3 Big Man... Really son? so there are only 2 other big men in the NBA who you would rank above Amare? Well I'll just name a few big men over 6'10 not going to mention a position, since yha just eluded to big men....

    Pao Gasol
    Tim Duncan
    Dwight Howard
    Yao Ming
    Lamarcus Aldridge
    Dirk Nowitzski
    Chris Bosh

    Now there are some people in that list that he is equal to in talent, but superior than any1 in that list... I dont think so.

    The knicks will continue to be the same team, because they have the same mentality and thats because they have the same coach. and damn i'm tired of hearing people continuing to talk about this system that D'antoni has. for 2 years that so called system has had the knicks win 33 games. When exactly is it time for us to say the system is flawed. When does it become time to say that the coach is not as good as his resume showed?

    Fire the coach, then I believe the Knicks can begin the process of becoming a decent team, who can become good.
    Ming isn't even healthy to play basketball...do you realize he's still in rehab you idiot. You don't even follow the NBA, just pull **** out of your ass.
    Duncan is old and isn't better than Amare overall.
    Gasol plays with Kobe, that doesnt make him better than Amare head to head.
    Aldrige? You're a moron.
    Dirk is not better than Amare. At shooting? Yes. Everything else, no.
    Bosh is a gay version of Dirk, so you have to be a moron to believe he edges Amare.

    You're just a sad hater man...this whole gimmick sucks and reading your post has been ****ing painful. You sound like someone who can't get over their ex. Just let the **** go and be a logical fan.

    Same mentality?
    Knicks just acquired 3 defensive caliber players with two shot blockers in Randolph and Turiaf and a Raja Bell clone in Azubuike. You're WRONG on that one cowboy.

    The Knicks won 33 games because they were REBUILDING you dickface. Duhon was logging 37 minutes a game, what the hell you EXPECT?

    Fire the coach? D'Antoni hasn't even had a chance yet, you need to sit your ass down and watch this team gel. D'Antoni is part of the rebuilding process. Firing the coach would just make us start over again and it'll take longer to rebuild.


    Jim, you're a Bulls fan and the worst poster on the site...of course you're going to disapprove of this. You're upset because the Knicks didn't acquired MIDWEST losers like Isiah would of done? We have good pieces...go cheer for LeBron's punk midwest ass like you would do on the DL. You're the biggest disgrace on this site.

    When was the last time the Knicks had an All NBA team player, All star caliber, top 3 big man? Patrick Ewing. If you don't think Amare won't make an impact in NY, then you're straight up BUGGIN' out.

    Stop hating if you can't back it up with facts.

    Amare has potential to play VERY good defense. Research his history.

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    That's the attitude. I love what Noah said last night, "We got Boozer. We are good. At least we'll be able to fight!"

    The bottom line: The 2010 NYK team will be a much-improved team. Light years ahead of the 2008-2009 teams.

    ORL-CHI-MIL-BOS-ATL will all be solid teams. Toss in MIA obviously. We are right there fighting for the 5-8 seed in the Eastern Conference. Bring it!

    According to theknicksblog.com: Odom on Randolph

    ""It's like looking in the mirror a little. He's 6'11." He's left-handed, and he can put the ball on the floor. He's two times as athletic as I was at that age. If he stays focused, the sky is the limit for him."

    NOW, in terms of beating the heat.... The blueprint should be taken from the 90s Knicks teams (even though it never really worked against MJ), and that is you attack MIA and it's two potent super-uber wing players with a tough, physical potent frontcourt!

    MIA has BOSH and not much else down low. STAT, RANDOLPH, TURIAF, CURRY & JORDAN, on paper look like they'll massacre MIA in the paint.

    That's a start. LJ & WADE will do their thing. But if Douglas can run circles around Chalmers, and Gallo hits the 3s.... If LJ/WADE are forced to hit jumpers and clank a few in the 4th.... We have a shot.

    NOW, imagine if the Eddy Curry of a few years ago, the EC fighting for his next contract, imagine if he returns to 75percent of the offensive player he once was....

    How does MIA stop the Knicks in the paint, when we could showcase STAT, RANDOLPH & CURRY dunking balls left and right? BOSH wont be able to do much against that.

    Go bucket for bucket.

    Just like the 90s, we'll be in the game and have our shot. Even if the outcome is the same, at least it'll be exciting (and at least we get a chanc ehopefully to avenge those tough Ewing defeats to MJ, even if in an odd sort of way).

    Restore balance to the universe!

    LET'S ALSO REMEMBER, we haven't finished rounding out the roster yet!

    Sit back and watch the kids improve, watch STAT lead, hope we catch a break and avoid HEAT until the the EC Finals... And then, like NOAH said: GIve it our best shot and fight!

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    Miami who? The Knicks got a real team now. I sense some top free agents wanting to play for them next year.

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    im excited about our young team . and happy about stat

    amare is more than a banger he is a leader something we desperate needed , some1 that knows the system already

    amare was on the western conference , a tuff spot to be in if your a big man , now he comes to the eastern were he will bang

    but a playoff team maybe ..

    with some other few moves here and i say PLAYOFFS HELL YEAH

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    I hope Melo finds the whole Miami circle jerk classless and it drives him to want nothing more than to piss on their championship party plans.
    Maybe the Nuggets come around eventually and we get him this season.

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