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    Originally Posted by p0nder
    I thought that AI had matured last year. I watched his press conference when he was picked up by the 76ers and he showed a lot of professionalism and that heart that it takes to be a force in this league. However he came back from that to miss most of the games and in the games he did play he was ineffective at best and a black hole at worst. I think he still has an opportunity to come back and compete but i don't see AI ever wanting to differ to another player, take a back up role or even co-exist on a team with another superstar. It's just not how he plays the game. When he was younger he needed to take nearly 40 shots a game. And thats just how he played the game, it's all he knows and his inability to adjust and adapt has left him behind in this new NBA.

    I can see Arenas and Camby doing as you mentioned, looking to come to a team and contribute, putting aside their egos. But for the above reasons of age, durability and chemistry issues I think that we have players now on our roster that would/will make better fits then Camby/Arenas.

    We'll see now how much Arenas can bounce back after the debacle he had. I hope he gets another chance as i think he has tremendous talent, but I don't know how much teams are going to be willing to invest in him. His matuirty is questionable at best.

    True, but that interview you're talking about was during the time of his off the court issues. I think it was about a week and half ago when he stated he would take a cut and play any role. I'm not sure how much of a cut he's talking, but if its reasonable, I don't see the harm in giving him a shot to redeem himself. He'll be great coming off the bench, especially knowing he's ok with it.
    He can only be hungry...and that makes you better. I doubt if he will blow another chance in this league.

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    Originally Posted by Real NY Baller
    If Gilbert was that good, why does Wash draft his replacement at the point? Why would they even entertain trading him? He isnt a difference maker.
    I'm not sure if I understand this particular post but, your opinion of Gilbert has been noted in another one... however, Gilbert is an Allstar and has proven it, believe it or not. He might not be all flair but he sure gets the job done.[/quote]

    My point is Arenas is being replaced on his own team. If he was holding it down like you say he wouldnt have to change positions. My other point is, IF he is as good as YOU THINK, why would WASHINGTON TRADE HIM?

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    Clyde, it's obvious that Washington wants to trade him for public image issues, not talent issues. Considering that changed their name to the Wizards from bullets and he brings a gun into the locker room, you can't really expect that they'd keep him...

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    Originally Posted by p0nder
    Clyde, it's obvious that Washington wants to trade him for public image issues, not talent issues. Considering that changed their name to the Wizards from bullets and he brings a gun into the locker room, you can't really expect that they'd keep him...
    Public image issues? I know a bunch of players that have done a WHOLE lot worse than Arenas and were never traded. Dont get me wrong, he's a very good player. He could probably help a team like Cleveland thats already set get into the playoffs. But on a young team like the Knicks, he'd be more of a hindrance. Then teaming him up with Camby and AI? LOL. PULEASE NO...

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    His contract is far worse than his off-the-court issues.

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    Originally Posted by Real NY Baller
    I'll respect your opinions as you should do mines. I predict that the more seasoned/vets will take it to the Knicks this year....If they don't upgrade to experience players. Teams are stacked now, what part of this don't you understand? Gilbert is far beyound good,imo. I mentioned these guys because they are available, and expressed their desires to come here and I'm sure they can still compete .

    Why wait for mello, cp3 and parker? sounds like what we were doing with the Lebronsense 2 years ago. The time is now , not next year..
    Ok I'll break it down for you. And btw I can understand your opinion that adding those players would give us some extra wins, but that's not helpful to us. While adding Camby/Iverson/Arenas *could* possibly help us win a few games more this year, is it going to take us over the edge? Is it going to put us in championship contention? NO. END OF STORY.

    Arenas for one has a contract that would KILL all our prospects of rebuilding which is still an ongoing project until this time next year.

    Iverson wouldn't be the end of the world as a cheap pickup but since we are still in rebuilding mode, let that playing time go to players who need the oncourt experience to improve their game (Douglas, Walker, Azubuike, Chandler).

    Camby mixes half of Arenas and Iverson. He has a large contract for his age (not a killer but still ugly, would prevent us from getting a max next summer), and would take PT away from Randolph who is a major prospect going forward.

    We are looking at building a DYNASTY in New York not a team that could maybe reach round 2 of the playoffs. No one is saying this Knicks team we have now is going to rule the roost this season, but we can make the playoffs and get some first round experience, build this young team up so when next summer comes around and we have space to add Melo or whoever is up for grabs we can improve the team even further. Why jeapordize the future of our franchise for an extra 5 regular season wins? Makes no sense.

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    Adding Camby/Iverson/Arenas? That's an ISIAH move, guys.

    Adding Camby is adding a 36 year old with a pretty large contract who's only valuable mostly as a defensive specialist. HM, sounds like this dude ISIAH who signed defensive roleplayers such as Jared Jeffries to full mid-level exception contracts...except in this case, Camby's contract is even larger!

    Adding Iverson? Hm, a washed up aging veteran who's just going to take playing time away from our young players who are actually, well, GOOD? Hm that sounds like an ISIAH move to me

    Adding Arenas? Hey, let's go get a non-passing point guard with off the field issues and chemistry problems, a lot of injury history, and a HUMONGOUS contract! That's even WORSE than any move Isiah ever made - that'd be like giving JEROME JAMES a 15 million dollar/year deal.

    Face it getting any of those players is a moronic move. Yes, it's true that we won't necessarily get Carmelo and/or CP3. Yes, it's true that if we got Arenas we'd probably improve a bit.

    But in the long term it'd KILL us. Arenas is not going to win us a championship. It makes the Knicks a slightly better team now at the expense of KILLING them down the road. If we pick up Arenas we're over the salary cap for the next 4 years, unable to do anything.

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    Well it just got tougher to beat the Heat. They resigned Haslem to a 5 year 20M deal and are close to signing Miller.
    Lebron is also reported to be active in recruiting players so I expect Z or Shaq to follow, more likely Z because Shaq wants the MLE from someone. I hope Riley doesn't talk to Shaq because he'll probably get the guy to play for nothing, Riles is the f**king Messiah talking these guys into coming to Miami for less money.

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    I'm going to say it was more likely that it was Wade, not Riley, who was doing most of the recruiting of Bosh and LeBitch

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    Games are not played on paper. Yeah I think we have a great chance against the Heat. we will see

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    if eddy curry can posterize chris bosh, im sure as hell STAT can do it twice as nasty...
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    I see Randolph, Gallinari and Amare taking turns on Bosh like a pornstarslut.

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    Yeah quite frankly if Gallo puts on some size he could probably posterize Bosh. He posterized Roy Hibbert, after all...

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    Originally Posted by knickfan2112
    if eddy curry can posterize chris bosh, im sure as hell STAT can do it twice as nasty...
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    :38.. clyde said "get it to curry" you think he'll ever say that again?

    curry's 6th straight 20 pt game... smh... imagine he could play like that now...

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    Originally Posted by bboycustom92
    :38.. clyde said "get it to curry" you think he'll ever say that again?

    curry's 6th straight 20 pt game... smh... imagine he could play like that now...
    Curry would give you 20 points, but also give you 4 rebounds, 0 block shots, 4 turnovers, 4 fouls, and give up 30 points against the opposition.

    Dude was the worst, I couldn't stand him, Isiah and Isiahsexuals who defended him and justify him.

    Curry can play like that whenever, he just needs a coach stupid enough like Isiah to force feed him 40 minutes a game, and watch our team lose as Curry produces his points, turnovers, poor defense and lack in rebounding and shot blocking and passing.

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