Why no love for Gallo?

Toons

Toons

is the Bo$$
abcd said:
Who's Gallinari?

Brook Lopez, Anthony Randolph, Roy Hibbert, Robin Lopez, Jason Thompson,
Eric Gordon >>> Danilo Gallinari

Gallinari=3 pt specialist

Anthony Randolph=versatile rebounder/defender/scorer
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First off, Roy Hibbert is a 7'2'' Centre that cant rebound/jump. How the hell does someone with a 7'6'' wingspan average less rebounds than eddy curry?? Hibbers averages 4.7 rebounds, Curry averages 5.2 per game. At least gallo was brought in to be a shooter, and was second in the league in 3's made.

Jason thompson has already reached his ceiling imo, and can possibly become a paul milsap/ louis scola type that will never earn a max contract. Robin Lopez?? the robin lopez that averages 8 pts and 4 rebounds???
the 7 footer that averages .3 more blocks per game than gallinari? lol
 
Trin_Starr

Trin_Starr

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It's not right to judge gallo by his rookie year stats. He missed his whole first season with the back issue so that doesn't count. Last season for all intent and purposes was his rookie season. We have to be cognizant of the fact that there is a huge transition from European play the NBA. Every euro player goes through it. Just look at dirks stats his rookie year. I believe that gallo has now gotten a better feel for the NBA game and it's speed. the addition of Felton will help him in getting easier wide open shots and in case u forgot, see the Denver game where he took it to carmelo. He wasn't just shooting 3s. He was playing d, and on offense he was shooting the j stroking the three and taking it to the hoop.
He has the tools to be special. I believe this year he will become even better alot in part to the new teAmmates who are not ballhogs and me first scorers.
 
mafra

mafra

Legend
Real NY Baller said:
I know you was serious..

but what is confusing me is all the hype for this kid. But, most of that hype is coming from in here. Is people really watching this guy's game? Sometimes I wonder if people know anything about basketball when they are bigging this dude up. I mean really, where's the attraction?
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The attractions begins with the very fact that Gallo is 6"10' and can drill the 3-point shot. Hard to get a hand in the way on that one.

The dude turns 22 next month! Already averages 15 points and 5 rebounds a game.

We had a vet team playing for their own interests last season. Guys like Duhon, Harrington, House, Mcgrady, Lee, Hughes hardly looked for an open Gallo; let alone did any care mcuh about his development.

He stil got his shooting nearly 40% from behind the arc.

He proved down the stretch he was willing to grow, when he started driving more and relying on 3-point shot less. Plus he asked coach for the toughest defensive assignment down the stretch. The show he put on alone against MELO proves he's more than a 1-trick pony.
 
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Real NY Baller

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mafra said:
The attractions begins with the very fact that Gallo is 6"10' and can drill the 3-point shot. Hard to get a hand in the way on that one.

The dude turns 22 next month! Already averages 15 points and 5 rebounds a game.

We had a vet team playing for their own interests last season. Guys like Duhon, Harrington, House, Mcgrady, Lee, Hughes hardly looked for an open Gallo; let alone did any care mcuh about his development.

He stil got his shooting nearly 40% from behind the arc.

He proved down the stretch he was willing to grow, when he started driving more and relying on 3-point shot less. Plus he asked coach for the toughest defensive assignment down the stretch. The show he put on alone against MELO proves he's more than a 1-trick pony.
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Well, I saw him getting schooled by vets and rookies. Having a good game every now and than IS being inconsistant. He had opportunities, he was in the game a lot but was often ineffective, I even seen a few bricks and airballs. At his height he can't even bang the boards. 6foot10 on the 3 point line isn't going to cut it. It's a waste, and for your sake and others he better had picked up his game.
 
mafra

mafra

Legend
Real NY Baller said:
Well, I saw him getting schooled by vets and rookies. Having a good game every now and than IS being inconsistant. He had opportunities, he was in the game a lot but was often ineffective, I even seen a few bricks and airballs. At his height he can't even bang the boards. 6foot10 on the 3 point line isn't going to cut it. It's a waste, and for your sake and others he better had picked up his game.
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Gallo avergaed as many rebounds per game as Hibbert. Methinks you don't watch any NYK games.

When Dirk was 21, he averaged 17.5 ppg & 6.5 rebounds, while shooting 37% from 3. This was his sophmore campaign. However, he did play in 41 games his rookie year and wasn't stuck in limbo, on a team who was in the midst of a 2-year reconstruction TANKING plan.

Like I said, dude averaged 15 points and 5 rebounds a game, shooting almost 40 percent.
 
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Real NY Baller

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mafra said:
Like I said, dude averaged 15 points and 5 rebounds a game.
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He's definately no Dirk, and on that team I'm sure many people on this board can put up better numbers. My point is... he's all hype, and people are just being overly optimistic. You'll see...
 
mafra

mafra

Legend
Real NY Baller said:
He's definately no Dirk, and on that team I'm sure many people on this board can put up better numbers. My point is... he's all hype, and people are just being overly optimistic. You'll see...
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In 10 of his final 20 games, Gallo had 5+ rebounds & 20+ points. He's not all hype. He can play. You offered your opinion. Most don't agree with it. Dude has something you can't measure- competitive fire!

You probably would have traded up and selected M-Beasley. That would have worked out well.

Rose-Mayo-Westbrook were DW's first 3 choices. They were gone. It boiled down to Gallo and Randolph. We got them both now.

Will Gallo be DIRK? Probably not. Few are. Will Gallo be a nice #3 option on a good team, spreading the defense and scoring 18-22 ppg? I think so.
 
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iSaYughh

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mafra said:
The attractions begins with the very fact that Gallo is 6"10' and can drill the 3-point shot. Hard to get a hand in the way on that one.

The dude turns 22 next month! Already averages 15 points and 5 rebounds a game.

We had a vet team playing for their own interests last season. Guys like Duhon, Harrington, House, Mcgrady, Lee, Hughes hardly looked for an open Gallo; let alone did any care mcuh about his development.

He stil got his shooting nearly 40% from behind the arc.

He proved down the stretch he was willing to grow, when he started driving more and relying on 3-point shot less. Plus he asked coach for the toughest defensive assignment down the stretch. The show he put on alone against MELO proves he's more than a 1-trick pony.
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Bingo!

It's simple.

He's a 22yr old 6-10 sf with elite range, the ability to slash, hit free throws, pass, and play D.

The world knows he didn't put up allstar numbers or play consistently last year -- for one of the leagues most dysfunctional, point guard'less rosters, at age 22, in his first full/real season.

The world knows this.

But he has those skills.

And he has already single handedly taken over games and won them. With versatility and different ways he can win. Especially as he developed over the season.

Gallo gets some pretty big shits taken on him by some. A 3pt specialist? Wha? JJ Reddick? SMH.

6'10 sf. Elite range. Can slash. Pass. Play D (its not all about boards n blocks, though he already really wasn't horrible there for a 3).

22. One full season in NBA. Already --has-- taken over and owned games with blazing game. Cmon...

IMHO, some have a vested interest in maintaining Gallo to be a bust. Not that anyone wants him to actually fail. But it will rape some people's bball evaluations if he pulls it together.

Anti-Gallo is extremely tied to the overall anti-D'antoni movement. One reason D'ant gets mentioned almost like clockwork when people break Gallo down.
 
Toons

Toons

is the Bo$$
abcd said:
I'm serious.

What else, besides shoot 3s, can Gallinari do?



Gallinari is a 6-10 small forward/power forward who's too slow to play small forward and too weak to play power forward.

He moves like a robot and has an awkward release, when he drives to the basket, which reduces his shot accuracy inside and makes it easier for his opponents to block his shots.

He shoots 42% from the field, despite being 6-10, and he sucks at rebounding(4.9 rebounds in 34 MPG) and sucks at shotblocking(.7 BPG at 34 MPG).

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http://www.nba.com/playerfile/danilo_gallinari/

These are just facts.

I'm not hating.

The numbers don't lie, and I'm not going to lie for the numbers. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Ok, well lets take a closer look at the numbers. First off, you say that Gallo sucks at blocking.

Gallo blocked 58 shots, and almost averages a block per game. He is 12th in blocks in his draft class and is 4th in blocks for all forwards coming in his draft class.
Anthony Randolph , GSW 33 22.7 51 92 1.54 3.27 .55
2 Jason Thompson , SAC 75 31.4 73 279 .97 1.49 .26
3 Anthony Tolliver , GSW-POR 46 31.0 33 128 .72 1.11 .26
4 Danilo Gallinari , NYK 81 33.9 58 191 .72 1.01 .3
5 Nicolas Batum , POR 37 24.8 25 83 .68 1.31 .3
6 Michael Beasley , MIA 78 29.8 49 221 .63 1.01 .22
7 Marreese Speights , PHI 62 16.4 34 152 .55 1.61 .22
8 Luc Mbah a Moute , MIL 73 25.6 39 181 .53 1.0 .22
9 Jason Smith , PHI 56 11.8 28 110 .5 2.04 .26
10 J.J. Hickson , CLE 81 20.9 39 132 .48 1.11 .3
11 Darrell Arthur , MEM 32 14.3 14 60 .44 1.47 .23

Danilo is a 6'10'' small forward, i most compare his physique to that of a lamar odom, and his game to that of dirk. He isnt expected to block shots, but because of his versatility, he does.

Of all sophmores, Gallo is 10th in steals with 0.93 per. Gallo has more steals per game than derrick rose, george hill, brandon rush and other guards. Again, he isnt expected to steal the ball, but because he is versitile, he does.

Gallo has an efficiency rating of 14.6 which is again top 10 in his draft class.

Gallo does a littl ebit of everything and doesnt turn the ball over much for someone who just finished their sophmore season, (and one who didnt have much of a rookie season).

In his sophmore class, gallo is 6th in scoring.


So he does not suck in scoring, steals, blocks, or rebounds. If you compare him to league leaders in those categories, then fine....i can then say that kobe sucks because he sucks at rebounding, blocks, and boxing out.


you say he has an awkward release, but who cares about the release if the shot goes in? imo gallo's release is perfect. allan houstinesque


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lmao @ too slow to play small, and too weak to play power. the kid is 21 years old. allow him to gain a pound or two. Gallo is an average speed 3. Not lightning fast, deceptive first step, and long strides. Far from slow.



U lose this one

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mafra

mafra

Legend
And aside from all the other stuff... Dude has heart, fight, that something-something that you either have or you don't (ask Eddy Curry). Dude works and RAISES his game against elite players. KG in BOS when he told him to buzz off while draining 3s; battling and talking back to Melo.

WHY DOES MELO WANT TO COME HERE?

STAT + GALLO make MELO happy!
 
kukoc7

kukoc7

Benchwarmer
Gallo is not only a 3pt specialist, believe me that I saw him since he was more than a boy.
This is what D'Antoni asked him last year, and a lot of people here in Italy was surprising about that, because he's more and more than a 3pt shooter.
I don't know if he will become an all star, I hope so, but for sure he's a great player with "the head on his shoulder", he has the right mental approach and it's important for a young player like him.
 
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Real NY Baller

Starter
kukoc7 said:
Gallo is not only a 3pt specialist, believe me that I saw him since he was more than a boy.
This is what D'Antoni asked him last year, and a lot of people here in Italy was surprising about that, because he's more and more than a 3pt shooter.
I don't know if he will become an all star, I hope so, but for sure he's a great player with "the head on his shoulder", he has the right mental approach and it's important for a young player like him.
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Like I mentioned before his age is the main reason why I'm giving him the benifit of the doubt. The clock is still ticking and I'm still not impressed
 
B

Blas

Benchwarmer
Real NY Baller said:
He's definately no Dirk, and on that team I'm sure many people on this board can put up better numbers. My point is... he's all hype, and people are just being overly optimistic. You'll see...
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First, You are right he isn't Dirk. But they have posted similar stats.

Second, I'm pretty confident that most people on this board cannot put up 15/5 numbers in the NBA.

Third, You talk about him being inconsistent, please name 10 rookies in the past 10 years that was consistent or 10 players in their sophomore year that were consistent. Even Lebron James was not consistent in his first two years. Go look at the game and play by play logs.

And finally, the majority of your posts are pretty pessimistic on this board. Is there anything you like about the Knicks? Are you a fan? Do you even care if these guys succeed or not? If the answer is no to all three of these questions, no problem. I am just curious and I am not challenging you, I just want to know your stance on the NY Knicks.
 
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iJoe

Rotation player
I don't know why everyone compares him to Dirk.

He'll be more like Turkoglu when he was in the Magic. He can do a variety of things well and his specialty is shooting.

I don't see him becoming a major star, but he's got plenty of upside and damnnn hes young.
 
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Real NY Baller

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jeckomaru said:
First, You are right he isn't Dirk. But they have posted similar stats.

Second, I'm pretty confident that most people on this board cannot put up 15/5 numbers in the NBA.

Third, You talk about him being inconsistent, please name 10 rookies in the past 10 years that was consistent or 10 players in their sophomore year that were consistent. Even Lebron James was not consistent in his first two years. Go look at the game and play by play logs.

And finally, the majority of your posts are pretty pessimistic on this board. Is there anything you like about the Knicks? Are you a fan? Do you even care if these guys succeed or not? If the answer is no to all three of these questions, no problem. I am just curious and I am not challenging you, I just want to know your stance on the NY Knicks.
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The Knicks look OK, but to think they will compete off the bat....in this conference.... is just wild speculations. And, Gallo IS one dimensional(the last time I saw him) do you really want to see him posterized all year long?

we'll all see
 
kukoc7

kukoc7

Benchwarmer
Ok, Do you accept a bet ?
One beer.
He will be an all star in the next 2 years.
(but if I loose you need to come in Italy to be paid off :D)
 
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abcd

KnicksonLIN.com
Toons said:
Ok, well lets take a closer look at the numbers. First off, you say that Gallo sucks at blocking.

Gallo blocked 58 shots, and almost averages a block per game. He is 12th in blocks in his draft class and is 4th in blocks for all forwards coming in his draft class.
Anthony Randolph , GSW 33 22.7 51 92 1.54 3.27 .55
2 Jason Thompson , SAC 75 31.4 73 279 .97 1.49 .26
3 Anthony Tolliver , GSW-POR 46 31.0 33 128 .72 1.11 .26
4 Danilo Gallinari , NYK 81 33.9 58 191 .72 1.01 .3
5 Nicolas Batum , POR 37 24.8 25 83 .68 1.31 .3
6 Michael Beasley , MIA 78 29.8 49 221 .63 1.01 .22
7 Marreese Speights , PHI 62 16.4 34 152 .55 1.61 .22
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Thank you for proving my point.

1. You were unable to disprove the fact that Gallinari shoots 42% from the field, despite being 6-10 and having a height advantage over most of his opponents.

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2. You also were unable to disprove the fact that Gallinari is a crappy rebounder and shotblocker, averaging 4.9 rebounds in 34 MPG and .7 blocks in 34 MPG.

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3. Brook Lopez, Robin Lopez, Anthony Randolph, Jason Thompson, and Roy Hibbert all shoot better percentages, average more rebounds, and block more shots than Gallinari. Eric Gordon also shoots a better percentage and scores more points.

Brook Lopez >>>>> Danilo Gallinari
18.8 PPG, 8.6 rebounds, 1.7 blocks, 49.9% fg
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/brook_lopez/

Robin Lopez >> Danilo Gallinari
8.4 ppg, 4.9 rebounds, 1 block, 58% fg, 19.3 MPG
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/robin_lopez/Robin Lopez averages more rebounds and blocks in 15 MPG less than Gallinari. I guess Gallo got exposed for being a Gallina.

Anthony Randolph >>> Danilo Gallinari
11.6 ppg, 6.5 rebounds, 1.6 blocks, 44.3% fg, 22.7 MPG
Randolph averages more rebounds and blocks and shoots a better percentage, in 12 fewer MPG.

Jason Thompson > Danilo Gallinari
12.5 ppg, 8.5 rebounds, 1 block, 47% fg, 31.4 MPG
Thompson averages more rebounds and blocks and shoots a better percentage, in 3 less MPG.
Roy Hibbert > Danilo Gallinari
11.7 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 1.6 BPG, 49.5% fg 25 MPG
Hibbert averages more rebounds and blocks in 9 fewer MPG, and he shoots a better FG%.

Eric Gordon > Danilo Gallinari
16.9 ppg, 3 assists, 1.1 steals, 44.9% fg, 37% 3 PT

4. You were unable to disprove the fact that Gallinari is nothing more than a 3 point specialist.
Gallinari's field goal attempts, in the 2009-2010 season: 1,052
Gallinari's 3 pt attempts, in the 2009-2010 season: 560

53% of his attempts were from 3, and another 15% of his attempts were with his foot on the line, or with his feet one step above the 3 pt line.

In other words, 68% of Gallinari's shot attempts were from at least 20-28 feet away.

5. Gallinari = 3 PT Specialist
 
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malik singletary

malik singletary

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this guy was injured his rookie year returned with a 80-90% back couldnt move the way he did in italy in 2 yrs he is a top 5 sf in the east
 
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