Why no love for Gallo?

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abcd said:
Thank you for proving my point.

1. You were unable to disprove the fact that Gallinari shoots 42% from the field, despite being 6-10 and having a height advantage over most of his opponents.

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2. You also were unable to disprove the fact that Gallinari is a crappy rebounder and shotblocker, averaging 4.9 rebounds in 34 MPG and .7 blocks in 34 MPG.

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3. Brook Lopez, Robin Lopez, Anthony Randolph, Jason Thompson, and Roy Hibbert all shoot better percentages, average more rebounds, and block more shots than Gallinari. Eric Gordon also shoots a better percentage and scores more points.

Brook Lopez >>>>> Danilo Gallinari
18.8 PPG, 8.6 rebounds, 1.7 blocks, 49.9% fg
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/brook_lopez/

Robin Lopez >> Danilo Gallinari
8.4 ppg, 4.9 rebounds, 1 block, 58% fg, 19.3 MPG
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/robin_lopez/Robin Lopez averages more rebounds and blocks in 15 MPG less than Gallinari. I guess Gallo got exposed for being a Gallina.

Anthony Randolph >>> Danilo Gallinari
11.6 ppg, 6.5 rebounds, 1.6 blocks, 44.3% fg, 22.7 MPG
Randolph averages more rebounds and blocks and shoots a better percentage, in 12 fewer MPG.

Jason Thompson > Danilo Gallinari
12.5 ppg, 8.5 rebounds, 1 block, 47% fg, 31.4 MPG
Thompson averages more rebounds and blocks and shoots a better percentage, in 3 less MPG.
Roy Hibbert > Danilo Gallinari
11.7 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 1.6 BPG, 49.5% fg 25 MPG
Hibbert averages more rebounds and blocks in 9 fewer MPG, and he shoots a better FG%.

Eric Gordon > Danilo Gallinari
16.9 ppg, 3 assists, 1.1 steals, 44.9% fg, 37% 3 PT

4. You were unable to disprove the fact that Gallinari is nothing more than a 3 point specialist.
Gallinari's field goal attempts, in the 2009-2010 season: 1,052
Gallinari's 3 pt attempts, in the 2009-2010 season: 560

53% of his attempts were from 3, and another 15% of his attempts were with his foot on the line, or with his feet one step above the 3 pt line.

In other words, 68% of Gallinari's shot attempts were from at least 20-28 feet away.

5. Gallinari = 3 PT Specialist
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That's a powerful and versatile rebuttal, but you yourself agree that it's so low bc for much of the season his --role-- was to be there hitting the 3.

This isn't because its all he can do and what he's confined too.

He has good slashing for someone his size. And passing. And D. And his 3 pt specialty-like range.

He's --shown-- he can do all this. He --has-- taken over and won games by doing this.

Can't argue against that.

Can't argue against your season sat analysis either.

Except the stats are for a young player just doing his first full season for a cesspool team with no PG, no C, and a coach who had no game plan for the roster insofar as improvising and trying shit out here n there on whim.

Can't deny the stats. Can't say Gallo --is-- great or has been "better" than the others.

Can say he has the clear ability to be great, and own 99% of that draft class.

He's shown he can, especially down the stretch.
 
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abcd said:
Thank you for proving my point.

1. You were unable to disprove the fact that Gallinari shoots 42% from the field, despite being 6-10 and having a height advantage over most of his opponents.

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2. You also were unable to disprove the fact that Gallinari is a crappy rebounder and shotblocker, averaging 4.9 rebounds in 34 MPG and .7 blocks in 34 MPG.

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</td></tr> <tr class="odd"> <td class="yr">09-10</td> <td class="tm">NYK</td> <td>81</td> <td>74</td> <td>33.9</td> <td>0.423</td> <td>0.381</td> <td>0.818</td> <td>0.8</td> <td>4.1</td> <td>4.9</td> <td>1.7</td> <td>0.9</td> <td>0.7</td> <td>1.36</td> <td>2.36</td> <td>15.1</td></tr></tbody></table>

3. Brook Lopez, Robin Lopez, Anthony Randolph, Jason Thompson, and Roy Hibbert all shoot better percentages, average more rebounds, and block more shots than Gallinari. Eric Gordon also shoots a better percentage and scores more points.

Brook Lopez >>>>> Danilo Gallinari
18.8 PPG, 8.6 rebounds, 1.7 blocks, 49.9% fg
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/brook_lopez/

Robin Lopez >> Danilo Gallinari
8.4 ppg, 4.9 rebounds, 1 block, 58% fg, 19.3 MPG
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/robin_lopez/Robin Lopez averages more rebounds and blocks in 15 MPG less than Gallinari. I guess Gallo got exposed for being a Gallina.

Anthony Randolph >>> Danilo Gallinari
11.6 ppg, 6.5 rebounds, 1.6 blocks, 44.3% fg, 22.7 MPG
Randolph averages more rebounds and blocks and shoots a better percentage, in 12 fewer MPG.

Jason Thompson > Danilo Gallinari
12.5 ppg, 8.5 rebounds, 1 block, 47% fg, 31.4 MPG
Thompson averages more rebounds and blocks and shoots a better percentage, in 3 less MPG.
Roy Hibbert > Danilo Gallinari
11.7 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 1.6 BPG, 49.5% fg 25 MPG
Hibbert averages more rebounds and blocks in 9 fewer MPG, and he shoots a better FG%.

Eric Gordon > Danilo Gallinari
16.9 ppg, 3 assists, 1.1 steals, 44.9% fg, 37% 3 PT

4. You were unable to disprove the fact that Gallinari is nothing more than a 3 point specialist.
Gallinari's field goal attempts, in the 2009-2010 season: 1,052
Gallinari's 3 pt attempts, in the 2009-2010 season: 560

53% of his attempts were from 3, and another 15% of his attempts were with his foot on the line, or with his feet one step above the 3 pt line.

In other words, 68% of Gallinari's shot attempts were from at least 20-28 feet away.

5. Gallinari = 3 PT Specialist
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you idiot, you are comparing legit 7ft centers with a 6'10'' small forward. and a point guard and a small forward. We didnt bring gallo in for rebounds and blocks, even though he is capable of doing these things. watch the video......watch a real game and stop trying to sound so knowledgable, when ur really not
 
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LJ4ptplay

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abcd said:
Thank you for proving my point.

1. You were unable to disprove the fact that Gallinari shoots 42% from the field, despite being 6-10 and having a height advantage over most of his opponents.

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2. You also were unable to disprove the fact that Gallinari is a crappy rebounder and shotblocker, averaging 4.9 rebounds in 34 MPG and .7 blocks in 34 MPG.

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</td></tr> <tr class="odd"> <td class="yr">09-10</td> <td class="tm">NYK</td> <td>81</td> <td>74</td> <td>33.9</td> <td>0.423</td> <td>0.381</td> <td>0.818</td> <td>0.8</td> <td>4.1</td> <td>4.9</td> <td>1.7</td> <td>0.9</td> <td>0.7</td> <td>1.36</td> <td>2.36</td> <td>15.1</td></tr></tbody></table>

3. Brook Lopez, Robin Lopez, Anthony Randolph, Jason Thompson, and Roy Hibbert all shoot better percentages, average more rebounds, and block more shots than Gallinari. Eric Gordon also shoots a better percentage and scores more points.

Brook Lopez >>>>> Danilo Gallinari
18.8 PPG, 8.6 rebounds, 1.7 blocks, 49.9% fg
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/brook_lopez/

Robin Lopez >> Danilo Gallinari
8.4 ppg, 4.9 rebounds, 1 block, 58% fg, 19.3 MPG
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/robin_lopez/Robin Lopez averages more rebounds and blocks in 15 MPG less than Gallinari. I guess Gallo got exposed for being a Gallina.

Anthony Randolph >>> Danilo Gallinari
11.6 ppg, 6.5 rebounds, 1.6 blocks, 44.3% fg, 22.7 MPG
Randolph averages more rebounds and blocks and shoots a better percentage, in 12 fewer MPG.

Jason Thompson > Danilo Gallinari
12.5 ppg, 8.5 rebounds, 1 block, 47% fg, 31.4 MPG
Thompson averages more rebounds and blocks and shoots a better percentage, in 3 less MPG.
Roy Hibbert > Danilo Gallinari
11.7 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 1.6 BPG, 49.5% fg 25 MPG
Hibbert averages more rebounds and blocks in 9 fewer MPG, and he shoots a better FG%.

Eric Gordon > Danilo Gallinari
16.9 ppg, 3 assists, 1.1 steals, 44.9% fg, 37% 3 PT

4. You were unable to disprove the fact that Gallinari is nothing more than a 3 point specialist.
Gallinari's field goal attempts, in the 2009-2010 season: 1,052
Gallinari's 3 pt attempts, in the 2009-2010 season: 560

53% of his attempts were from 3, and another 15% of his attempts were with his foot on the line, or with his feet one step above the 3 pt line.

In other words, 68% of Gallinari's shot attempts were from at least 20-28 feet away.

5. Gallinari = 3 PT Specialist
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Wouldn't it be better to compare Gallo by position? All of the players you listed play SG, PF or C. None are SF's, which is where Gallo has played and probably will play for the majority of his playing time.

From your angle, we can compare Gordon's rebounding numbers and deduce that he is an inferior player. Correct?

Gallo has more skills than just a 3-point shot. I'm not sure why you think this. He doesn't utilize his skills to the fullest advantage many times and that is his weakness. He settles too much. That doesn't mean that is all he can do.
 
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iSaYughh

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Let's mark it down. Who are you actually willing to vouch your rep for in being able to put up superior numbers, and PER figures in 2011?

Me? 1, in Lopez. Maybe, maybe 2, if AR-47 if absolutely explodes for us.
 
goldenchild1688

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jeckomaru said:
I haven't seen too many threads or anything about the expectations of Gallo this year.

I believe this kid is going to be an all-star and part of a big '3' for the Knicks very soon.

This year he will blow up, especially with someone like STAT on the team to take pressure off him.
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ive been hyping up gallo for obvious reasons for years as well as arguing with other knick fans about him

sky is the limit with this dude. hes going to make a lot of people look silly real for doubting him
 
DontForgetDerekHarper

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Real NY Baller said:
Because, he is inconsistent and lacks a defensive presence. His heart doesn?t fit NY basketball. If he didn?t have personal ties to the coach he would have been gone a long time ago. This year I expect Gallo and the coach will be sent packing?
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dude 74 posts

member since what a month ago

due to your inconsistent membership, and lack of presence on this sight you do not fit NY basketball

shut the hell up and sit back and let the real posters handle threads like this

I am sick and FUUUUUUUGGGING

TIRED OF THESE ROOKIE POSTERS COMING ON HERE TAKING UP SPACE AND TIME


you are not a real fan if you were you would have signed up 2 yrs ago

and im tired of every one saying I Was a fan since 93

since mason and ewing blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

enough is enough

the real fans are the ones on this site who when i see a post i know who created it

real knick fans stand up
 
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Bunta

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not knowing about this site does not make you less of a fan. Your e-wang is huge! Congrats :p

Aside from this odd rant I usually enjoy reading your posts though so please keep up the normally good work!

Oh and as for the topic i think Gallo gets plenty of love around here.
 
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Real NY Baller

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DontForgetDerekHarper said:
dude 74 posts

member since what a month ago

due to your inconsistent membership, and lack of presence on this sight you do not fit NY basketball

shut the hell up and sit back and let the real posters handle threads like this

I am sick and FUUUUUUUGGGING

TIRED OF THESE ROOKIE POSTERS COMING ON HERE TAKING UP SPACE AND TIME


you are not a real fan if you were you would have signed up 2 yrs ago

and im tired of every one saying I Was a fan since 93

since mason and ewing blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

enough is enough

the real fans are the ones on this site who when i see a post i know who created it

real knick fans stand up
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I don't waste all of my time on forums youngling, and I'm only responding to this post because you wanted me to.

:smokin:
The truth must hurt, for if it didn?t?you wouldn?t take it so personal. Why don?t you go fetch me a Gallo highlight reel?instead of talking about brief moments in time.
 
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Paul1355

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jeckomaru said:
I haven't seen too many threads or anything about the expectations of Gallo this year.

I believe this kid is going to be an all-star and part of a big '3' for the Knicks very soon.

This year he will blow up, especially with someone like STAT on the team to take pressure off him.
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No threads on him because we are hoping he doesnt have another horrible shooting slump

he better be more consistent and develop a post game and drive more to draw fouls or he will be one dimensional
 
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I am not going to dog Gallo out because I did see him takeover a game or two last year. I think alot of people are angry we didn't select others over Gallo(including me) but its water under the bridge now. Gallo/D'ant will ALWAYS be tied together because Gallo is D'ants godson.

All that being said, these are the thing Gallo needs to work on this summer and most have been mentioned above:

1. Becoming a more CONSISTENT SHOOTER/SCORER. His 15ppg average is deceptive because its feast or famine.

2. A POST MOVE OR TWO. With his touch he would be unstoppable on the block and in the midrange.

3. Learn to use his length on the perimeter to protect the ball.
 
ronoranina

ronoranina

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jimkcchief88 said:
I am not going to dog Gallo out because I did see him takeover a game or two last year. I think alot of people are angry we didn't select others over Gallo(including me) but its water under the bridge now. Gallo/D'ant will ALWAYS be tied together because Gallo is D'ants godson.

All that being said, these are the thing Gallo needs to work on this summer and most have been mentioned above:

1. Becoming a more CONSISTENT SHOOTER/SCORER. His 15ppg average is deceptive because its feast or famine.

2. A POST MOVE OR TWO. With his touch he would be unstoppable on the block and in the midrange.

3. Learn to use his length on the perimeter to protect the ball.
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I agree with the above. I would add that he needs be more aggressive in looking for his shot. There were to many stretches last year where he faded. He gave us many glimpses last season of what he could be, but there were holes in his game. Hopefully he's ironing some of those weaknesses out this offseason.
 
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KingCharles34

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I just wanna see Gallo consistently knock down 3's and continue to improve his all around game. Im not too worried about him, he is what he is...

Ill show some love for the Big Cock, I wanna see him grow this year :gony:
 
NewYork 21 Knicks

NewYork 21 Knicks

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damn gallo is a beast he will be putting up 30 points a game plus he does play tight defense did no one watch the knicks last year he did much more then just 3 pointers if there is one player from the knicks last yr to not be hating on galo is that player
 
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Gallo is amazing but he needs to make better use of the fact that he's got size. He's a great shooter - but sometimes I feel he camps out at the 3 point line a bit too much.

That being said the Big Cock is progressing pretty well and I was happy to see a lot of defensive improvement from him as well
 
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