View Poll Results: Where would you have Randolph put in his minutes?

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  • 4 w/ Amar'e @ the 5

    7 20.00%
  • 5 w/ Amar'e at the 4

    11 31.43%
  • 3 w/ Gallo @ the 2

    2 5.71%
  • Ahead of Gallo @ the 3

    0 0%
  • 6th Man

    5 14.29%
  • 7th, 8th or further back in the rotation

    0 0%
  • If he outplays Gallo, put him at the 3

    3 8.57%
  • Alternate between 4 & 5 with Turiaf, Mozulupagus

    7 20.00%
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Thread: Anthony Randolph's Undetermined NYK Role

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    Nyk Logo Anthony Randolph's Undetermined NYK Role

    Mike D'Antoni Explains Anthony Randolph's Role with the Knicks
    Monday, July 19, 2010
    Posted By Eric Freeman 2:15 PM
    For two seasons, Anthony Randolph has been more of a mad scientist's experiment than a basketball player. In his first Summer League, he burst onto the Vegas scene with a wildly versatile game with scoring, rebounding, passing, shotblocking, and virtually everything else you can do on the basketball court.

    That included occasionally startling inconsistency along with the usual mistakes of on-court youth. Unfortunately for Randolph, he had the worst coach for a player with these issues. Don Nelson never seemed to know what to do with him and yanked his minutes around with no rhyme or reason. In short, Randolph didn't have the chance to grow into a role.

    Thankfully for Randolph, he's no longer under the control of the nefarious Nelson. But there's still some question as to exactly how Mike D'Antoni will choose to use him in New York.


    Matt Moore of ProBasketballTalk spoke with D'Antoni over the weekend at Summer League, and it appears that the architect of Seven Seconds or Less intends to embrace the reality of his new player:
    "He's a multi-position player that has a world of talent whose athleticism is off the charts. He's only played two years in the league and just turned 21. There's a lot of positives and we'll figure out where we fit him in, and figure out what the best position is for him, but he can play a lot of places."
    In other words, Randolph's role will be that he has no fixed role. In the past, D'Antoni used Boris Diaw in a similar way to great effect with Phoenix, and it's easy to see Randolph doing much the same. When you have a player like Randolph, the best thing to do is to let him create his own position, not fit him into one of basketball's established roles.

    It's often said that young players succeed when they know what is expected of them. But for Randolph, it makes little sense to give them a set of expectations when he is a confusing player even for the coaches who know him best. What he needs is regular playing time, not a prescribed role. Over time, Randolph's strengths will become clear, and his role will create itself. But he's a player who needs that kind of searching period where his mistakes will be tolerated and his game can find itself organically.

    Nellie never gave him that chance with the Warriors. It appears that D'Antoni understands Randolph quite well, though.


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    Just imagine if Curry showed up and wanted to prove something (in other words, fight for one more contract).

    Amar'e - Randolph - Curry would be basically unstoppable in the paint. HOw would you defend that?

    BACK TO REALITY.... I think they will be times you play Amar'e & Stat together; there will be times when one is on the court and the other sits; and there will be the super-duper-go-big times when both are on the floor, with Turiaf, Gallo & Felton.

    I think Randolph starts season on the bench. First guy to enter game, and our finisher. He may not start but will still play 33 minutes or so. Like Diaw, he'll guard PG through C. Roam baseline, freelance, and find his groove.

    I think.... eventually (if all goes well), we'll start him with Felton, Galo, Amar'e and ? (Chandler or Azubuike).

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    I see him playing the role of Jarred Jeffries from last year. But with a 100 times more talent, obviously. He was starting as a 4/5 with Lee. Remember, although the stats didn't show it, he was practically the MVP of the team last year. Until he was traded.

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    Defensive MVP. Offensive MRP. R=Retarded

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    AR looks shorter than turiaf in that picture, hasnt everyone been talking about how hes a 7 footer? doesnt look like it.

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    6th man until he outplays gallo... he is a 3/4 type of playa

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    Default AR and Turiaf

    Originally Posted by Danilo
    AR looks shorter than turiaf in that picture, hasnt everyone been talking about how hes a 7 footer? doesnt look like it.
    If you assume that the backdrop on the wall behind the players is straight and then compare the heights against the lined images on the backdrop, it appears that AR is just a mite taller than Turiaf. But looking at the photo alone, Turiaf looks taller and almost twice as thick.

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    If I was D'antoni I would start him at the 5 with Amare at the 4. But because of match-up problems against scoring true centers he can't really be as effective as he can be at the 5. So when the Knicks are facing teams with a true center like Magics with Howard, we can then rearrange the line-up by putting Turiaf or Mosgov at the 5. So in my rotation Randolph will either start at the 5 or don't start at all against teams like Magics and come off the bench as 6th man.

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    Originally Posted by DieHardPassion
    If I was D'antoni I would start him at the 5 with Amare at the 4. But because of match-up problems against scoring true centers he can't really be as effective as he can be at the 5. So when the Knicks are facing teams with a true center like Magics with Howard, we can then rearrange the line-up by putting Turiaf or Mosgov at the 5. So in my rotation Randolph will either start at the 5 or don't start at all against teams like Magics and come off the bench as 6th man.

    thats the most logical scenario by far is to start him when there are mismatches at the 5(slow,un-athletic,weak centers) then against the boguts,howards,bynums you can put him anywhere from the 2-4.the knicks can use this guy as a very annoying player.also the 2 can be nice if we run a lineup with.now i know sg is a bit dumb but this guy really is that versatile.almost close to a magic johnson.we can run a fastbreak lineup with felton,douglas,buike,gallo,randolph etc etc so many possibilities its crazy.

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    Originally Posted by Crazy8s
    Mike D'Antoni Explains Anthony Randolph's Role with the Knicks
    Monday, July 19, 2010
    Posted By Eric Freeman 2:15 PM
    For two seasons, Anthony Randolph has been more of a mad scientist's experiment than a basketball player. In his first Summer League, he burst onto the Vegas scene with a wildly versatile game with scoring, rebounding, passing, shotblocking, and virtually everything else you can do on the basketball court.

    That included occasionally startling inconsistency along with the usual mistakes of on-court youth. Unfortunately for Randolph, he had the worst coach for a player with these issues. Don Nelson never seemed to know what to do with him and yanked his minutes around with no rhyme or reason. In short, Randolph didn't have the chance to grow into a role.

    Thankfully for Randolph, he's no longer under the control of the nefarious Nelson. But there's still some question as to exactly how Mike D'Antoni will choose to use him in New York.


    Matt Moore of ProBasketballTalk spoke with D'Antoni over the weekend at Summer League, and it appears that the architect of Seven Seconds or Less intends to embrace the reality of his new player:
    "He's a multi-position player that has a world of talent whose athleticism is off the charts. He's only played two years in the league and just turned 21. There's a lot of positives and we'll figure out where we fit him in, and figure out what the best position is for him, but he can play a lot of places."
    In other words, Randolph's role will be that he has no fixed role. In the past, D'Antoni used Boris Diaw in a similar way to great effect with Phoenix, and it's easy to see Randolph doing much the same. When you have a player like Randolph, the best thing to do is to let him create his own position, not fit him into one of basketball's established roles.

    It's often said that young players succeed when they know what is expected of them. But for Randolph, it makes little sense to give them a set of expectations when he is a confusing player even for the coaches who know him best. What he needs is regular playing time, not a prescribed role. Over time, Randolph's strengths will become clear, and his role will create itself. But he's a player who needs that kind of searching period where his mistakes will be tolerated and his game can find itself organically.

    Nellie never gave him that chance with the Warriors. It appears that D'Antoni understands Randolph quite well, though.


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    Randolph sould start at Center and have Amare start at PF.

    This combination would give us the most athletic front court in the NBA that provides offense and defense.

    They would compliment each other and Turiaf/Mozgov would come off the bench to play center when Randolph can play PF when Amare is tired.

    Without injuries we should no worry at all about the front court, but giving Randolph over 20 min per game is essential, he deserves over 28 min from the start.

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    I agree.

    Randolph is a bit skinny to be playing center.

    Honestly, I think he could probably make up for it given that he's probably the most athletic big man in the East

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    I think A.R. will be, with time, a better player then Chris Bosh. He needs to continue to grow and put on weight, but I can see him as a starting center for the knicks, even this season.

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    not quite sure if putting on weight is a good look for AR. His explosiveness is due to his weight most likely which is his main strength.

    It's liek when Eddy Curry lost all the lbs and all the sudden became useless....not sure if you want to take away a players asset they have relied on their whole careers....cuz Anthony Randolph's jumper is good but he's not wet all the time.

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