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    Default I_THOMAS is back, and it might get us Chris Paul?

    New Orleans new GM has history with Thomas.... COuld this be our break to get CP3?


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    By Tommy Dee on Jul 23, 2010, 3:50 pm
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    Kay says a source said that had Isiah been part of the discussions Lebron likely would have chosen NY. Also, Isiah isn’t being considered as GM because of PR hit.

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    No joke- inside source telling us that Isiah Thomas flew into Ocean City, NJ airport today & met w/ highest levels of Knicks management.





    So Michael Kay has jumped on the Isiah stuff and here’s what we know. Dell Demps was given a significant promotion by Isiah Thomas in 2004. What I don’t understand is how he can broker any deal here. Demps answers to ownership. The Knicks, with or without Isiah, can propose a pretty strong offer. I understand the relationship with the owner, what I don’t understand is this need for Isiah because of his relationship the younger generation of players. Stephen A. Smith, and now Michael Kay, have both now stated that the thought is Zeke has “influence over the young African American players” in today’s NBA.

    Kay said Paul has modeled his game after Isiah. CP3 was literally 3 Isiah was winning rings. And there is no evidence that Paul has ever said he wanted to be Isiah 2.0, actually 3.0 after Marbury, anywhere.

    Essentially somewhere, someone is trying to re-establish Isiah as a “power broker” or is trying to make Isiah look good for helping the Knicks specifically with Amar’e.

    It’s pretty clear, to me, that person is none other than the owner.

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    Frankly as long as Isiah isn't allowed to make signings or trades he'd probably not be the worst personnel guy out there

    He'd be especially valuable on draft night and if this article carries any salt to it he'd probably be pretty valuable as a negotiator.

    But we don't want him to be RUNNING the show. This is DONNIE'S show...

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    Amen. Let him be Executive Prez & Vice Admiral to the Owner, or something quirky like that.

    Walsh is GM. Houston his GM-in-waiting.

    Away-we-go!

    If it helps us get Paul, especially with keeping Curry and Gallo. Hey now....

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    LOL if Isiah was involved, LBJ would've came here? Really, because Wade, Bosh, and James had this **** planned in Beijing. Please.

    Don't insult Donnie Walsh like that. If Isiah was here then the Knicks wouldn't even be in a position to sign a free agent this summer. Just stop mentioning this clown, he has no future here or anywhere else in the NBA. Stern will see to it.

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    I can't believe we're actually talking about Isiah coming back to New York. I don't understand how people can be so forgetful. The same thing with all of these people saying how they wish Bush was back as president. The worst GM in Knicks history and the worst president in US history and people want them back. What the f#@k is going on?

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    1. Bush isn't quite the worst president in US history, but that's a debate for another time.
    2. Isiah would be useful if he weren't a GM. Like it or not he was a good drafter. Five bucks says he would've taken Lopez and Jennings

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    Originally Posted by LJ4ptplay
    I can't believe we're actually talking about Isiah coming back to New York. I don't understand how people can be so forgetful. The same thing with all of these people saying how they wish Bush was back as president. The worst GM in Knicks history and the worst president in US history and people want them back. What the f#@k is going on?
    Thomas was a clown. We all know that. If I never heard his name again, it wouldn't bother me one bit.

    BUT, the bigger issue is.... OUR OWNER is a friggin' chump. What can we do? If he wants IT back (and it appears he does in some capacity) then we have to swallow it.

    I'll save my anger for Dolan.... B/C he's the dumbest owner in sports.

    Also, if IT returns as a glorified advisor, with no control other than yapping to Dolan, and it means we get Chris Paul.... I'll be too happy for Paul-STAT to worry about IT being back.

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    Originally Posted by SSj4Wingzero
    1. Bush isn't quite the worst president in US history, but that's a debate for another time.
    2. Isiah would be useful if he weren't a GM. Like it or not he was a good drafter. Five bucks says he would've taken Lopez and Jennings
    Actually, no...he would've taken Eric Gordon. He is an overrated drafter. He had one really good pick and that was David Lee. The rest were mediocre to poor.

    Are we living in bizarro world? What is going on here? Doesn't anybody remember how f#@king bad the Isiah days were?

    Are you one of those people that thinks Bush did a good job too?

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    The only reason Isiah IS going to be brought back is because he is still on salary. That is not IF it is the gruesome reality.

    Mark my words Isiah will be brought back with a tittle other than GM but he will be deep into the mix.

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    Originally Posted by LJ4ptplay
    Actually, no...he would've taken Eric Gordon. He is an overrated drafter. He had one really good pick and that was David Lee. The rest were mediocre to poor.

    Are we living in bizarro world? What is going on here? Doesn't anybody remember how f#@king bad the Isiah days were?

    Are you one of those people that thinks Bush did a good job too?
    Bush-Kerry are related; same with Cheney-Obama. It seems we haven't had a real leader since Teddy.

    Allthose clowns are jokes, behooven to special interests (spox for corporate-occupied Wash D-C).

    At least with BUSH, people expected the worst.... Most danger comes when you think the guy in office actually cares (given benefit of doubt).

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    they should give zeke the scouting,player assessment job that allan houston has right now,he isnt as bad as we take em,his only draw back was coaching,contracts and the sexual rumors.he has a good mind but i feel he went power crazy.he to his core is a mastermind scouter and can find busts and the guy knows how to draft,the team we had mind you were a mini all star squad but didnt gel and had personal issues.
    curry,marbury,randolph,crawford,balkman,frye,ariza ,nate those guys if coached right couldve went to the 2nd round and more in the playoffs.we had loads of talent but overpaid ones.The knicks suked with him there but the moves and drafts he did are what anyone wouldve done with a franchise that is stuggling so much.the guy should never be a gm but a scouter,drafter,player development but mostly only on scouting because thats what he excels at.

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    Originally Posted by LJ4ptplay
    Actually, no...he would've taken Eric Gordon. He is an overrated drafter. He had one really good pick and that was David Lee. The rest were mediocre to poor.

    Are we living in bizarro world? What is going on here? Doesn't anybody remember how f#@king bad the Isiah days were?

    Are you one of those people that thinks Bush did a good job too?
    Uh...so you think.

    Whom did Isiah draft that was such a bad pick? He's managed to get excellent talent out of the late round picks. His only bad pick was Renaldo Balkman, and every GM messes up once in a while.

    I remember how bad the Isiah days were better than anybody. But it wasn't because of Isiah's drafting. It was because of Isiah's trades and signings. If he doesn't get to decide on that, then he's shown himself to be pretty damn good at finding talent especially later in the draft. He found Trevor Ariza, for example.

    And with regards to Bush, you don't have to think Bush did a good job to know that he's FAR from being the worst President we've ever had. Have you not heard of a man named James Buchanan? A dude who pretty much sat there and let the Civil War happen? That's way worse than anything Bush's done.

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    Here's something else worth remembering: The Associated Press reported that Paul is scheduled to meet on Monday with new general manager Dell Demps and new head coach Monty Williams. Both Demps and Williams once worked for the Knicks as a scout and player respectively.

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    I read that Thomas promoted Demps. Let's hope these two cats left on good terms with Dolan.

    MIN sent BOS GArnett (Mchale ex-BOS) and MEM sent LAL GAsol (West ex-LAL), so there is a certain symmetry here./.


    Let it be the Knicks now getting a favor from a former employee. All things equal, or at least all things sort of equal, why not help out their old Boss (unless there exists bad blood.... gulp).

    Enter Thomas?

    I'm positive we would have to eat Okafor's bad contract. We must accept that. We'll lose Randolph. Probably Chandler as well. Maybe Turiaf, maybe not?

    I bet we can keep Gallo though!

    NO can send Paul to the Eastern Conference. They can "sorta" stick it to him b/c they wouldn't send him to POR or ORL (instant contenders).

    They get a young player with potential, a productive wing player and CAP RELIEF.

    Knicks get to start:

    Paul (Felton, Douglas)
    Azubuike (Walker)
    Gallo (Fields)
    Amar'e (Ewing Jr)
    Okafor (Mozgov, Jordan)

    Pretty good. Probably not better than simply waiting for PArker & Melo next year, but one in the hand is alwasy better than 2 in the bush.

    Make it happen. If Paul is traded, it's going to be NY.

    Stern doesn't wantthe 2 best teams in the East to be in FLA. He wants to get NY relevant. Spread the wealth. New brain trust in NO have ties to NY.

    Let's go!

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    It's incomprehendable to me how people still want Isiah Thomas around in ANY capacity whatsoever. Do you not remember what being a Knicks fan was like 3-7 years ago?

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    And again, what were his worst moves?

    TRADES and SIGNINGS.

    If he's not given the authority to make decisions, he's pretty harmless.

    And face it if Isiah could somehow bring CP3 over to NY then it's worth bringing him on as an assistant.

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